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Yeah I agree with this. Seems like they ditched it for the sake of it just because it was in the Brosnan films, even though it's better than anything they've come up with since. The Brosnan one was perfect. Even when they finally went back to the binder design in SP, it felt like a step back when we saw that same design in motion 20 years ago. They're not going to do any better. They should admit defeat and go back to the Brosnan one (which would probably look even better now with how good CGI has gotten).
I think if you put the music from the GF one over the GE-TWINE gunbarrel you've pretty much got the perfect one right there. Really isn't that hard.
I agree but I liked the CR one too, as a one off. Think that was another exception.
As an idea contained to a single era, it's not one I would mind necessarily. But only if they committed to it fully and confidently. No mucking around with it at the end or appending thematic messages to it at the beginning.
I could watch this all day long. Well up to TLD. After that I always have an issue (LTK and GE I hate the music, DAD and TWINE the music OK but uses the wrong part of the theme for me, DAD the music is better (very YOLTish) but the bullet is naff. QOS-SP are just a bag of wank. CR obviously the exception, pulling it off with panache. In fact despite bearing no resemblance to the norm CR, bizarrely, is possibly in the top 5 gunbarrels).
I must say we have quite similar tastes regarding the gun-barrel. TLD was really the last time to date the sequence has been presented with full tradition, especially in the music.
One of the things I liked about the CR gunbarrel was that it was presented in black and white and segued well into the titles. Reminds me a bit of DR NO.
I think it was, at least up to the early development of QOS. Without the car chase it would have made sense.
I have to say, I’ve never seen that.
I don’t really see it as a ‘nice little tradition’, I see it as one of, if not the most recognisable motif in cinema history. It doesn’t need to be played around with it. It’s part of the framework and, most importantly, simple to execute. It’s not asking for much, which is why I think it grates.
Indeed. EON has one of the biggest properties in film so why to they feel the need to piss around with the key motifs that people expect. Star Wars are light years ahead when it comes to brand and marketing and they don't touch anything with the opening crawl despite it being 40 years old.
You can see EON really haven't got a clue what they re doing with it with SF. You have the shitty new GB and then to add insult to injury seconds later up ops the classic Binder design with 50 Years written inside it. Am I the only one who finds this absolutely ridiculous? They've got a classic piece of graphic design which they are content enough to try and milk for the 50th anniversary but they don't have enough confidence in it to put it in the film? Beyond idiotic.
Stop getting Bond wrong!!!!
This, this or this is how the gunbarell theme should sound like after Bond fires his gun.
Panchito is correct though about TND and TWINE being completely the wrong part of the theme but FRWL, GF and DAF are the real go to GB themes with the guitar twang turned up to 11.
I’ve a soft spot for GE, but it’s a nostalgic thing, beyond that I agree. DAF probably my favourite.
Fair enough it sounds odd when listens to alone where as the other ones sound fine
DAF is very good too, agreed.
These results are rather disgraceful. I don't blame the investor for being disappointed. They may have to sell for cents on the $ if they don't get on with it re: a Bond film to save their a$$#@s, as per normal.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/mgm-earnings-fall-higher-revenue-1112638
Do we think this is David Arnold's fault or the producers instructed him to do it that way?
I thought because the Brosnan gunbarrel runs slightly faster than previously , not enabling adequate time for the melody to be properly played. Even DAD, which restores the traditional music, plays a shortened version once the gun is fired.
Personally I think they should slow things down a tad to get that proper melody in, it should be a crowd pleasing moment - most people love the feeling when that guitar kicks in after Bond fires- there is absolutely no shame in milking it for a couple more seconds to do this.
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