No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • Posts: 5,767
    bondjames wrote: »
    Homage to TWINE? What madness. Only if Boyle has a sick sense of humour.
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    I agree but if London is set to feature longer than the obligatory mission briefing, the length of London's inclusion as utilised in TWINE is what I'm happy to settle for.
    Precisely. This is indeed the point. London has been somewhat overused as of late, and I'd also prefer if they dial it back in the next one, and take us someplace exotic for the duration of the film.

    I pose the question again: Are Boyle's films usually set in one locale? I think they are but would like some confirmation. Hopefully we are in store for an immersive local experience, like in the earlier Bond films.
    28 Days comes to mind, where the hero is sent on a bit of a journey, with two or three places being the main locations.

  • Posts: 12,466
    Daniel Craig IS James Bond 007.

    Going to miss his tenure a lot...
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    Whats „under these circumstances? I think, in the wish of some - very vocal, as usual - to create drama, you forget, that if hopefully 25 is a success, the series is in great shape and doesnt need saving. Not now, it does. Its in good shape even Now.

    But with the gaps, some feel personnally let down and have a nervous breakdown over it.

    The more relaxed of us should not let that colour our view in that direction.
  • edited June 2018 Posts: 12,466
    Whatever happens with 25, Craig’s first 3 marked a tremendous, unique run for a Bond actor.
  • Major_BoothroydMajor_Boothroyd Republic of Isthmus
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    People need to temper the call for Campbell return. He's nearly 75. At the current rate of Eon produced films he'll be 80 before they even consider doing Bond 26.
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    bondsum wrote: »
    Centre Point was converted to 82 residential apartments a couple of years ago. I used to visit the bar on the ground floor a few times. Can't think why Bond would need to parachute there when it's easily accessible by foot and by elevator?

    I used to work right next to centre point in the early 2000s. Curious location to want to base a Bond set piece around though. Really hope they don't have too much of London in Bond 25. That'll make three in a row.

    could it be Boyle is planning an entirely UK set film?
  • Major_BoothroydMajor_Boothroyd Republic of Isthmus
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    Getafix wrote: »
    bondsum wrote: »
    Centre Point was converted to 82 residential apartments a couple of years ago. I used to visit the bar on the ground floor a few times. Can't think why Bond would need to parachute there when it's easily accessible by foot and by elevator?

    I used to work right next to centre point in the early 2000s. Curious location to want to base a Bond set piece around though. Really hope they don't have too much of London in Bond 25. That'll make three in a row.

    could it be Boyle is planning an entirely UK set film?

    'Bond 25 Days Later'
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,134
    Getafix wrote: »

    could it be Boyle is planning an entirely UK set film?


    Well if it is, it wouldn't be the worse thing in the world of Bond. If it fits the story, then I'm all for it.


    People need to temper the call for Campbell return. He's nearly 75. At the current rate of Eon produced films he'll be 80 before they even consider doing Bond 26.

    Totally agree @Major_Boothroyd. Campbell has been a great director for the series, delivering two sterling outings. However, I think his Bond directorial duties are behind him. Time to move on.
  • QQ7QQ7 Croatia
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    I love Nolan's work he is a great technical director, I think he would come up with some great old school set pieces in a Bond film., Nolan knows how to create great tension. I think Nolan is like marmite, though I think he is probably the best contemporary director, there echoes of Kubrick in Nolan's work which I like.

    best contemporary mainstream director
  • SeanCraigSeanCraig Germany
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    Whatever happens with 25, Craig’s first 3 marked a tremendous, unique run for a Bond actor.
    Absolutely. Craig‘s first 3 are joined by Connery‘s first 4 to me. Even if B25 won‘t please me like SP didn‘t that will not change - I am very happy for those movies to exist.
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    Yo know what? I'm starting to warm up to the idea of David Arnold's return. If he returns, I certainly hope he will bring his A-game. And by A-game, I mean this:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=jPMrX3-mcRw
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    You make a good point regarding post Nolan, I think in a way he has set the bar incredibly high for Batman for example and expectations can potentially damage what follows. Though Bond can get away with weaker movies (assuming a weaker film followed a Nolan Bond) and always has a resurgence as historically proven.
    Yes, Batman is one I was thinking of when I made the comment. They've possibly lost 10 years on account of how good his version was. I don't think we can afford that with Bond.
    The main issue with Nolan is he is not a director for hire and Eon would likely have to give him full reign on whatever his vision would be hyperthethically speaking. Nolan is clearly a fan there are many nods to Bond in his films,
    Agreed, although I think there was more chance of that problem under Cubby. Babs seems to give a lot more control to the director, and she probably will have to if Nolan gets the job because he will do it with a new actor as well, who won't have as much say.
    boldfinger wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Homage to TWINE? What madness. Only if Boyle has a sick sense of humour.
    ---
    doubleoego wrote: »
    I agree but if London is set to feature longer than the obligatory mission briefing, the length of London's inclusion as utilised in TWINE is what I'm happy to settle for.
    Precisely. This is indeed the point. London has been somewhat overused as of late, and I'd also prefer if they dial it back in the next one, and take us someplace exotic for the duration of the film.

    I pose the question again: Are Boyle's films usually set in one locale? I think they are but would like some confirmation. Hopefully we are in store for an immersive local experience, like in the earlier Bond films.
    28 Days comes to mind, where the hero is sent on a bit of a journey, with two or three places being the main locations.
    Great, thanks for answering my question. I'll check that one out.
    QQ7 wrote: »
    I love Nolan's work he is a great technical director, I think he would come up with some great old school set pieces in a Bond film., Nolan knows how to create great tension. I think Nolan is like marmite, though I think he is probably the best contemporary director, there echoes of Kubrick in Nolan's work which I like.

    best contemporary mainstream director
    Agreed.
    People need to temper the call for Campbell return. He's nearly 75. At the current rate of Eon produced films he'll be 80 before they even consider doing Bond 26.
    I agree that Campbell probably will be too old for the gig, but I'm all for a journeyman of his calibre to get duties once this artsy detour is over with. Take it back to simplistic basics. Will that happen? It will depend on what transpires post-B25 re: direction and budget, and B25's box office will inevitably influence direction and investment.
    Getafix wrote: »
    bondsum wrote: »
    Centre Point was converted to 82 residential apartments a couple of years ago. I used to visit the bar on the ground floor a few times. Can't think why Bond would need to parachute there when it's easily accessible by foot and by elevator?

    I used to work right next to centre point in the early 2000s. Curious location to want to base a Bond set piece around though. Really hope they don't have too much of London in Bond 25. That'll make three in a row.

    could it be Boyle is planning an entirely UK set film?
    I wouldn't be surprised. If he is, I'd like him to stay away from the overexposed tourist landmarks and take us to interesting, colourful and charismatic venues. Give viewers a sense of the diversity, atmosphere and character of the city. Make it a real cultural experience. I think the first few seasons of Sherlock did a reasonable job of that, at least in terms of showing the city in a different way.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    I am fully confident that Arnold would bring his A game if he were to return for Bond 25, and deliver something fresh but fitting.
  • edited June 2018 Posts: 1,596
    We’re still discussing Nolan? I think he’s a great filmmaker, but not right for Bond. That’s my “elevator pitch” take on the whole Nolan thing.

    He’s made some not-so-great films, but he’s a very good filmmaker. Undoubtedly. But has the wrong sensibility for 007. Though, Dunkirk’s convincing leaning into sentimentality and rousing emotion has swayed me a bit, I’m overall still against him as a Bond director.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited June 2018 Posts: 8,395
    Nolan is the second most perfect fit for Bond after Craig, the first being Campbell.

    Exciting times.
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    Are you suggesting Nolan or Craig to replace Craig as Bond?
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    SaintMark wrote: »
    QQ7 wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    I will give Boyle a fair chance look if he delivers a brilliant film then I will sing his praises if he delivers garbage no matter how prestigious he is I will say so.

    Sorry Mendes films are in the teens for me but Marc forester film is number 2 for me.

    Martin Campbell of course is number 1 for me with Casino Royale but I digress

    Martin Cambell is #1 for me as well, GoldenEye and Casino Royale are classics which saved the franchise.

    I hope that he can direct Bond 26 with a new actor and "save" the Bond once more.
    Are you serious? The great Christopher Nolan is ready to write AND direct Bond 26, and you want Martin Campbell back??

    Campbell has proven his worth for the 007 franchise and Nolan isjust a wet dream for some. ;)

    Campbell's direction was not the reason CR was a success. All he had to do was not mess it up, and in the first half of the film, he practically did all by himself.

    Don't get me started on Campbell's sophomoric approach to filmmaking.
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    Bond missed the opportunity to get a young Speilberg to direct. If Nolan is interested in the future, they shouldn't pass him up.

    But as for B25, I recently watched Steve Jobs for the first time and I have to say I really enjoyed it. If nothing else, Boyle will bring out the best performances from his cast
  • edited June 2018 Posts: 4,619
    I really can not fathom why some Bond fans here believe Nolan is not right for Bond. I can not think of a single contemporary director who would be more right for Bond than Nolan. He has proven many times that he is a great director, has tons of experience directing big budget movies and is a HUGE Bond fan (much more so than Mendes or Boyle).
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,395
    I really can not fathom why some Bond fans here believe Nolan is not right for Bond. I can not think of a single contemporary director who would be more right for Bond than Nolan. He has proved many times that he is a great director, has tons of experience directing big budget movies and is a HUGE Bond fan (much more so than Mendes or Boyle).

    Campbell.
  • Posts: 12,466
    I really can not fathom why some Bond fans here believe Nolan is not right for Bond. I can not think of a single contemporary director who would be more right for Bond than Nolan. He has proved many times that he is a great director, has tons of experience directing big budget movies and is a HUGE Bond fan (much more so than Mendes or Boyle).

    I’m a little worried Nolan might make a Bond film with an overcomplicated plot, considering his track record of films that can be difficult to follow. It’s possible this might not happen, but also possible it could. Bond films should never be overly complicated IMO. Nolan could make an amazing Bond film, so long as he doesn’t get carried away with his signature style.
  • RC7RC7
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    TripAces wrote: »
    SaintMark wrote: »
    QQ7 wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    I will give Boyle a fair chance look if he delivers a brilliant film then I will sing his praises if he delivers garbage no matter how prestigious he is I will say so.

    Sorry Mendes films are in the teens for me but Marc forester film is number 2 for me.

    Martin Campbell of course is number 1 for me with Casino Royale but I digress

    Martin Cambell is #1 for me as well, GoldenEye and Casino Royale are classics which saved the franchise.

    I hope that he can direct Bond 26 with a new actor and "save" the Bond once more.
    Are you serious? The great Christopher Nolan is ready to write AND direct Bond 26, and you want Martin Campbell back??

    Campbell has proven his worth for the 007 franchise and Nolan isjust a wet dream for some. ;)

    Campbell's direction was not the reason CR was a success. All he had to do was not mess it up, and in the first half of the film, he practically did all by himself.

    Don't get me started on Campbell's sophomoric approach to filmmaking.

    Have you had some sort of mental breakdown?
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Posts: 3,157
    I really can not fathom why some Bond fans here believe Nolan is not right for Bond. I can not think of a single contemporary director who would be more right for Bond than Nolan. He has proven many times that he is a great director, has tons of experience directing big budget movies and is a HUGE Bond fan (much more so than Mendes or Boyle).

    My only problem with Nolan is that he'd carry Zimmer over.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited June 2018 Posts: 8,395
    Campbell was the biggest component to CR being considered a success. Just look what the same team sans him managed with QoS. A staggering drop off in quality.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited June 2018 Posts: 23,883
    Campbell gets the essence of Bond. There's no question about that in my mind. Could his approach be considered a bit pedestrian given where we've gone over the past 10 years? Yes, he's not an auteur. Rather, he's merely a competent director, who understands tension, action and suspense and can spin a decent yarn.

    I'm not sure if we'll ever get the sort of well executed meat and potatoes Bond films that he delivers again, given the apparent ambitions of the people in charge, but I hope we do.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    RC7 wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    SaintMark wrote: »
    QQ7 wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    I will give Boyle a fair chance look if he delivers a brilliant film then I will sing his praises if he delivers garbage no matter how prestigious he is I will say so.

    Sorry Mendes films are in the teens for me but Marc forester film is number 2 for me.

    Martin Campbell of course is number 1 for me with Casino Royale but I digress

    Martin Cambell is #1 for me as well, GoldenEye and Casino Royale are classics which saved the franchise.

    I hope that he can direct Bond 26 with a new actor and "save" the Bond once more.
    Are you serious? The great Christopher Nolan is ready to write AND direct Bond 26, and you want Martin Campbell back??

    Campbell has proven his worth for the 007 franchise and Nolan isjust a wet dream for some. ;)

    Campbell's direction was not the reason CR was a success. All he had to do was not mess it up, and in the first half of the film, he practically did all by himself.

    Don't get me started on Campbell's sophomoric approach to filmmaking.

    Have you had some sort of mental breakdown?

    He's been drinking from the same poisoned chalice as @Panchito.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    The success of the film Casino Royale also had something to do with Ian Fleming's first Bond novel, the story that establishes the character.

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    Could be ever see Bond turn his back on queen and country for a time ie attempt to kill M?
    FoxRox wrote: »
    Daniel Craig IS James Bond 007.

    Going to miss his tenure a lot...

    My thoughts exactly. But Chris Nolan is best man after Danny Boyle to introduce the new 007. He knows how to make an entertaining and thought provoking movie. Has to be Tom Hardy for me. Christian Bale would be great also.
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    Walecs wrote: »
    I really can not fathom why some Bond fans here believe Nolan is not right for Bond. I can not think of a single contemporary director who would be more right for Bond than Nolan. He has proven many times that he is a great director, has tons of experience directing big budget movies and is a HUGE Bond fan (much more so than Mendes or Boyle).

    My only problem with Nolan is that he'd carry Zimmer over.

    I would LOATHE a Zimmer Bond score. It would have none of the charm and excitement it should.
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    JET007 wrote: »
    Walecs wrote: »
    I really can not fathom why some Bond fans here believe Nolan is not right for Bond. I can not think of a single contemporary director who would be more right for Bond than Nolan. He has proven many times that he is a great director, has tons of experience directing big budget movies and is a HUGE Bond fan (much more so than Mendes or Boyle).

    My only problem with Nolan is that he'd carry Zimmer over.

    I would LOATHE a Zimmer Bond score. It would have none of the charm and excitement it should.

    To be honest, I don't remember any music from the Dark Knight Trilogy, or MAN OF STEEL. It's not like there was a memorable "Superman" theme.
    Therefore it stands to reason, if Zimmer did do a Bond film, I might not remember how any of the music goes. Memorable melodic scores in film today doesn't seem to be popular, or any of us here could hum music from the "Wonder Woman" film, and everyone know exactly what it is.
    Point being, Bond music needs to be above and beyond the bland film scores of the current age.
    The music should have it's individual stamp on the film and be immediately recognizable for generations to come. So if Zimmer never gets a Bond film, I promise I won't complain.
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