No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Operation Daybreak, anyone?
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    I would love to see a bond film win the new. ”best popular film” oscar.
  • //Otherwise they are usually unknowns who have directed a few films here and there.//

    Terence Young, Guy Hamilton and Lewis Gilbert all had directed a number of films long before they did Bond.

    Peter Hunt was a first timer (promoted from editor/second unit director).

    John Glen was a first timer (promoted from editor/second unit director).

    Martin Campbell had a mix of television and movie directing credits.

    Roger Spottiswoode had a mix of television and movie directing credits. You could make the case some of his TV movie directing credits (And the Band Played On, Hiroshima) had more prestige than some of his movie directing credits.

    Michael Apted was an established film director (though you could argue he was in a career slump when he got the job to direct The World Is Not Enough).

    Lee Tamahori had a few film director credits.

    Marc Forster had seven film directing credits before Quantum.

  • edited August 2018 Posts: 4,619
    I would love to see a bond film win the new. ”best popular film” oscar.
    Let's say Bond 25 delivers and gets nominated in this new (otherwise very dumb) category. Which movies will be its main competition? Likely contenders: Captain Marvel, Avengers 4, The Lion King, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (if it's not good enogh for Bets Picture), Wonder Woman 1984, Star Wars: Episode IX.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I would love to see a bond film win the new. ”best popular film” oscar.
    Let's say Bond 25 delivers and gets nominated in this new (otherwise very dumb) category. Which movies will be its main competition? Likely contenders: Captain Marvel, Avengers 4, The Lion King, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (if it's not good enogh for Bets Picture), Wonder Woman 1984, Star Wars: Episode IX.
    What a strange new category, especially if it's not based on pure box office gross. So they are going to have a 'Best Picture' and then also a 'Best Popular Picture'? Seems a bit two tier to me. Presumably one film can win both.

    Unless the new one is only for the 2nd class plebes who run out to the theatre and put $'s in coffers while the original will be snobbishly reserved for films that the Academy folks feel deserve recognition and have been ignored by the masses.

    I guess we'll have to see how this plays. I'm pretty sure Bond will get into this new category down the line.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    bondjames wrote: »
    I would love to see a bond film win the new. ”best popular film” oscar.
    Let's say Bond 25 delivers and gets nominated in this new (otherwise very dumb) category. Which movies will be its main competition? Likely contenders: Captain Marvel, Avengers 4, The Lion King, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (if it's not good enogh for Bets Picture), Wonder Woman 1984, Star Wars: Episode IX.
    What a strange new category, especially if it's not based on pure box office gross. So they are going to have a 'Best Picture' and then also a 'Best Popular Picture'? Seems a bit two tier to me. Presumably one film can win both.

    Unless the new one is only for the 2nd class plebes who run out to the theatre and put $'s in coffers while the original will be snobbishly reserved for films that the Academy folks feel deserve recognition and have been ignored by the masses.

    I guess we'll have to see how this plays. I'm pretty sure Bond will get into this new category down the line.

    And now the FF films will have a legitimate award to go after... Their next film could be the Oscar winning, "Most Popular Film"...

    This is why some award shows have almost lost all credibility and relevancy-- they try too hard to have their cake and eat it too.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    The only reason this category has been created is so the Academy can award Black Panther something and satisfy those campaigning for it, and not risk tainting their more "artistic" Best Picture nominees. I doubt they've even thought ahead to the complications such a category might bring up.
  • AgentJamesBond007AgentJamesBond007 Vesper’s grave
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    I made a gunbarrel that could show what B25 (or SPECTRE, for that matter) could look like if they actually cared.

  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Excellent work @AgentJamesBond007 :-bd
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    I made a gunbarrel that could show what B25 (or SPECTRE, for that matter) could look like if they actually cared.


    if who "cared"? Do you think anyone at EoN or MGM or Sony didn't "care" about SP? At the very least, they're a business whose job is to try and sell the very best product. And, like any business, sometimes they've nailed their product-- sometimes they fail.

    But it is the good businesses that learn from mistakes and come back stronger-- just like Bond's longevity-- for every YOLT, they try OHMSS; OHMSS was seen as a downturn, so Connery comes back for a light-hearted turn; TMWTGG was seen as supremely sub-par, and TSWLM saves the franchise's bacon; MR's too OTT and FYEO comes next; LTK was a bomb, GE is a hit; DAD makes MR look believable, CR re-boots everything...

    EoN has built more successes than failures, and generally learns from losses to come back stronger. If they didn't "care" about their product, in all its forms (from the gun barrel on), this series could have died when Connery left the franchise the first, or second, time....
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
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    I made a gunbarrel that could show what B25 (or SPECTRE, for that matter) could look like if they actually cared.


    Perfection.
  • AgentJamesBond007AgentJamesBond007 Vesper’s grave
    edited August 2018 Posts: 2,632
    peter wrote: »
    I made a gunbarrel that could show what B25 (or SPECTRE, for that matter) could look like if they actually cared.


    if who "cared"? Do you think anyone at EoN or MGM or Sony didn't "care" about SP? At the very least, they're a business whose job is to try and sell the very best product. And, like any business, sometimes they've nailed their product-- sometimes they fail.

    But it is the good businesses that learn from mistakes and come back stronger-- just like Bond's longevity-- for every YOLT, they try OHMSS; OHMSS was seen as a downturn, so Connery comes back for a light-hearted turn; TMWTGG was seen as supremely sub-par, and TSWLM saves the franchise's bacon; MR's too OTT and FYEO comes next; LTK was a bomb, GE is a hit; DAD makes MR look believable, CR re-boots everything...

    EoN has built more successes than failures, and generally learns from losses to come back stronger. If they didn't "care" about their product, in all its forms (from the gun barrel on), this series could have died when Connery left the franchise the first, or second, time....

    I’m speaking solely on whether they cared about the gunbarrel, not the actual film. I have no doubt whether they cared for the final film result. In this case, I don’t blame EON, MGM, or Sony for the gunbarrel, but Daniel Kleinman, Sam Mendes, and Daniel Craig
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    And, although I like what you have done, @AgentJamesBond007, I think the filmmakers, with all their faults, care about the Bond product from beginning to end-- and that includes the gunbarrrel.

    And you blame Daniel Craig for his gunbarrel sequence(s)??? You do realize he is directed to do what he does, right? Then, in editing, the director chooses the one he wants?

    And this comes from a man who loves Craig, but I haven't been a fan of his gunbarrels. My fave is Timothy Dalton (and we could have had his as being a poor man's Bob Simmons if John Glen and team didn't choose the right one)...
  • AgentJamesBond007AgentJamesBond007 Vesper’s grave
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    The biggest issue with DC is two things: in the original Spectre gunbarrel, he blatantly waves his gun arm around, which isn’t very Bondian. Also, he hasn’t had a walk and pose that stuck, which makes him inconsistent in the sequence.
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
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    The biggest issue with DC is two things: in the original Spectre gunbarrel, he blatantly waves his gun arm around, which is very unlock Bond. Also, he hasn’t had a walk and pose that stuck, which makes him inconsistent in the sequence.

    He just cant seem to nail the gunbarrel like every other Bond. I think his best look and pose was in QOS while his walk was good in SP, apart from the swinging arm. The SF gunbarrel was awful.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    His Spectre gunbarrel is his best one, gun arm swinging aside. Not sure what even called for that. QOS was bad on all counts, Skyfall could have been great with a Binder style gunbarrel design, rather than the piece of leather that got caught on a drill press in the finished films. It's a gunbarrel, how do they keep messing it up?
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    @AgentJamesBond007 -- I don't like DC's gunbarrels (outside of CR; in fact I think I call one as looking like he's about to have a seizure), but, although I disagree with what they have done, this is a DIRECTORIAL choice, not the actor's...

    The director will ask the actor to hop like Bob Simmons (TD's never used one); to swing the gun hand, to twirl, or god knows what-- then the DIRECTOR chooses the final cut ... This is not a SC choice or DC choice as a FINAL CUT...
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    I took Bond swinging the PPK openly in the Spectre gunbarrel as confidence for the character and the filmmakers. That was a great moment to enjoy, not likely to be repeated. And I care.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Hopefully we'll get some real casting rumors soon, fingers crossed for Mark Strong! Also, they could tweak the gunbarrel for the next 007. Say multiple shots from a machine gun. Or a missile launcher, instead of blood dripping, we get fire rising! Enough of my fantasy..
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    I hope the gunbarrel is at the end of Bond 25 and Bond himself gets shot. The camera spins around and reveals the shooter is...Vesper.

    Duh duh DUH!
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
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    echo wrote: »
    I hope the gunbarrel is at the end of Bond 25 and Bond himself gets shot. The camera spins around and reveals the shooter is...Vesper.

    Duh duh DUH!

    We then discover that the events of the last few films were orchestrated by her because she was angry that Bond bedded Fields so soon after her "death".
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
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    Remington wrote: »
    echo wrote: »
    I hope the gunbarrel is at the end of Bond 25 and Bond himself gets shot. The camera spins around and reveals the shooter is...Vesper.

    Duh duh DUH!

    We then discover that the events of the last few films were orchestrated by her because she was angry that Bond bedded Fields so soon after her "death".

    She’s the co-author of all Bond’s pain.
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
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    Remington wrote: »
    echo wrote: »
    I hope the gunbarrel is at the end of Bond 25 and Bond himself gets shot. The camera spins around and reveals the shooter is...Vesper.

    Duh duh DUH!

    We then discover that the events of the last few films were orchestrated by her because she was angry that Bond bedded Fields so soon after her "death".

    She’s the co-author of all Bond’s pain.

    Ooh even deadlier lol.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Can you believe it was almost a full year ago that we got a release date for Bond 25? Time flies. ;)

    We need an update soon. Hopefully things are on track.
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    Can you believe it was almost a full year ago that we got a release date for Bond 25? Time flies. ;)

    We need an update soon. Hopefully things are on track.

    Unlike this psychotic thread.

  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    Can you believe it was almost a full year ago that we got a release date for Bond 25? Time flies. ;)

    We need an update soon. Hopefully things are on track.

    Unlike this psychotic thread.

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  • edited August 2018 Posts: 1,661
    Due to the James Gunn Disney affair (if you're not heard about it Google it for all the gruesome details!), it looks like David Bautista's future with Disney is in doubt. The guy has basically told the studio they can "rude word off!" Given his potential future unemployment status, I'm sure EON will welcome him back as Hinx.

    "Round two, Mr. Bond!"

    "Ah, Hinx, nice to see you again."
  • SuperintendentSuperintendent A separate pool. For sharks, no less.
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    I would love to see a bond film win the new. ”best popular film” oscar.
    Let's say Bond 25 delivers and gets nominated in this new (otherwise very dumb) category. Which movies will be its main competition? Likely contenders: Captain Marvel, Avengers 4, The Lion King, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (if it's not good enogh for Bets Picture), Wonder Woman 1984, Star Wars: Episode IX.

    I read somewhere on the internet today - the Oscar statue for the best popular film will have the head of Iron Man because Marvel will be winning it every year.
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    It makes sense in a way to have this other 'best picture' award but it will inevitably take a bit of the shine off the main prize.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Remington wrote: »
    I made a gunbarrel that could show what B25 (or SPECTRE, for that matter) could look like if they actually cared.


    Perfection.
    Agreed. Very well done. I hope to see something like this at the start of B25 next year.
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