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  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,509
    I honestly think they will hire a new director in a week or two and have the new director use hodge's script there is really no reason eon should halt pre-production when they have to meet the 2019 release date

    yes-- with a polish--...
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 4,604
    Strelik wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Another reason to be terrified: they go back to Purvis and Wade's script, or just solely stick to them! If anyone needs to go (based on their comments before Spectre, and now with Trump), they probably feel they have run their course with Bond. New writers, please!
    Agreed. If Babs reverts to the rejected script by P&W, it will kill my interest in Bond 25 stone dead. Even worse, I fear Babs might hand over Hodges' unfinished script to P&W and order them to hastily finish it before production starts (as they did with Spectre).

    Let us hope that Hodges' script is completed and used, or new writers are brought in.

    New writers writers without P & W and a action director who isn't artsy drama is what James Bond drastically needs at this point! For sure by the time the next 007 this NEEDS to happen! Come on Barbara Broccoli, your father would be ashamed of you. He didn't keep Richard Maibaum for so many films in a row. How have P & W earned this achievement?! Sorry, enough rambling.
  • Posts: 9,843
    TripAces wrote: »
    "Yes, to save Bond, let's bring in the 74-year-old director responsible for Green Lantern!"

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    And who do you want
  • brinkeguthriebrinkeguthrie Piz Gloria
    Posts: 1,400
    This guy says 'Craig is halfway out the door.' Sorry, where does it say that? Must have missed this news.

    https://www.theringer.com/movies/2018/8/21/17765602/danny-boyle-leaves-bond-25-james-bond-franchise-future
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,789
    Birdleson wrote: »
    Stop the juvenile personal mockery and jabs. How the Hell is that adding to the dialogue?
    Agreed. He just did 'The Foreigner" with Chan & Brosnan on a minuscule budget and delivered big time.
    He's more than up to a New Bond.
    Get him or Forster....
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,755
    Not hard for me to believe “Craig is halfway out the door.” I knew when Craig announced he was coming back it was all too good to be true.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited August 2018 Posts: 4,604
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    Stop the juvenile personal mockery and jabs. How the Hell is that adding to the dialogue?
    Agreed. He just did 'The Foreigner" with Chan & Brosnan on a minuscule budget and delivered big time.
    He's more than up to a New Bond.
    Get him or Forster....

    I'm sorry but new blood is what James Bond truly needs. Marc Forster only did it because he liked Casino Royale. His passion wasn't there to begin with. Not fully blaming him or anyone really, the writers strike and the unexpected high quality of CR really made the journey a tough mountain for him to climb.
  • Posts: 1,680
    Never in any of Craig's productions have they not had a director this close to release date. They're in a little bit of trouble me thinks. Also you can rule Mendes out he starts filming this world war 1 1917 movie in April for December 2019 release.
  • DoctorNoDoctorNo USA-Maryland
    Posts: 755
    So they’re casting, they love his idea, they love the script, but there’s some critical issue that they fall out over (no pun intended): casting choice, action set pieces, some tweak to the script, the false promise that his choices would reign and not have to be approved by multiple boards of people... I would guess the last, but it’s possible they wanted to alter some part of the script that he couldn’t live with...

    My first thought was they all need to go, enough, EON sell, Craig retire...

    If they go back to their former short list of directors I can live with any of them, but it’s awfully awkward to board this big a ship and be known as the second choice. Also, yeah I could take Campbell or Forster or their short list, but NOT Mendes... the only thing that made my stomach turn more then when I first read this news was many of you just invoking his name. I will slash my wrists if Mendes gets named. Thank you @Tuck91 for the good news.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,195
    To the public, this is sudden . I think the parties involved have seen it coming for a while. If this is true, a short list of replacements was compiled , and no doubt some have already been contacted, possibly prior to the announcement.
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    Posts: 3,126
    kg54mvp wrote: »
    Sad, read this on break at work and this bums me out. I am still a somewhat new Bond fan and I am holding this next movie possibility so dearly.

    I need another craig bond in my life, then will be okay with a new one.

    Everything will be ok as long as it turns out as a good bond film
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,277
    TripAces wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    1. Some of you need to STOP with the Martin Campbell nonsense!!!!! Seriously.

    Or you could stop. Just sayin.

    Campbell's great work after CR: tell me. I'll wait. I mean, CR was twelve years ago. So breakdown the brilliant directing career of Martin Campbell, 2006-2018. That'll be entertaining. The woodie that some of you have for this hack is one of the great mysteries on this site.

    And yet...your screen name is...?
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,755
    Sad day, people. The more I think about it, the more upset I get. Look at how long it took for us to get solid news regarding our director. We were just starting to get news regarding production, now we’re back to square one.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
    edited August 2018 Posts: 2,730
    DoctorNo wrote: »
    So they’re casting, they love his idea, they love the script, but there’s some critical issue that they fall out over (no pun intended): casting choice, action set pieces, some tweak to the script, the false promise that his choices would reign and not have to be approved by multiple boards of people... I would guess the last, but it’s possible they wanted to alter some part of the script that he couldn’t live with...

    My first thought was they all need to go, enough, EON sell, Craig retire...

    If they go back to their former short list of directors I can live with any of them, but it’s awfully awkward to board this big a ship and be known as the second choice. Also, yeah I could take Campbell or Forster or their short list, but NOT Mendes... the only thing that made my stomach turn more then when I first read this news was many of you just invoking his name. I will slash my wrists if Mendes gets named. Thank you @Tuck91 for the good news.


    You’ve got the right idea. They will never go back to Forster which is a shame because he could churn out a pretty good bond film that could be liked perhaps more universally than QOS with a finsihed script and editing time.
    Campbell could possibly return with the next bond actor but I wouldn’t bet on it.

    I think the producers need to pack up and end the franchise. They don’t know what they’re doing and quite frankly, this latest stunt of theirs is egregious. I wouldn’t mind a reboot set in the olden days with stories closely following the Fleming novels with maybe some more intense action sprinkled it but at the end of the day I think that’s the way of the future for this franchise.

    I’m happy to say that I’ll just forget spectre and pretend the series ended with skyfall with bond proving he can survive forever and then going off on many missions.

    The truth is that these idiots can’t handle bond forever though.
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    Sad day, people. The more I think about it, the more upset I get. Look at how long it took for us to get solid news regarding our director. We were just starting to get news regarding production, now we’re back to square one.

    It feels like climbing up half a mountain and then falling off and being told to start again.

    Maybe I don’t want to
    echo wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    1. Some of you need to STOP with the Martin Campbell nonsense!!!!! Seriously.

    Or you could stop. Just sayin.

    Campbell's great work after CR: tell me. I'll wait. I mean, CR was twelve years ago. So breakdown the brilliant directing career of Martin Campbell, 2006-2018. That'll be entertaining. The woodie that some of you have for this hack is one of the great mysteries on this site.

    And yet...your screen name is...?

    Yeah that fact that this guy isn’t thrilled by the prospect of getting one more guaranteed fantastic bond film is beyond me.
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    Posts: 3,126
    DoctorNo wrote: »
    So they’re casting, they love his idea, they love the script, but there’s some critical issue that they fall out over (no pun intended): casting choice, action set pieces, some tweak to the script, the false promise that his choices would reign and not have to be approved by multiple boards of people... I would guess the last, but it’s possible they wanted to alter some part of the script that he couldn’t live with...

    My first thought was they all need to go, enough, EON sell, Craig retire...

    If they go back to their former short list of directors I can live with any of them, but it’s awfully awkward to board this big a ship and be known as the second choice. Also, yeah I could take Campbell or Forster or their short list, but NOT Mendes... the only thing that made my stomach turn more then when I first read this news was many of you just invoking his name. I will slash my wrists if Mendes gets named. Thank you @Tuck91 for the good news.


    You’ve got the right idea. They will never go back to Forster which is a shame because he could churn out a pretty good bond film that could be liked perhaps more universally than QOS with a finsihed script and editing time.
    Campbell could possibly return with the next bond actor but I wouldn’t bet on it.

    I think the producers need to pack up and end the franchise. They don’t know what they’re doing and quite frankly, this latest stunt of theirs is egregious. I wouldn’t mind a reboot set in the olden days with stories closely following the Fleming novels with maybe some more intense action sprinkled it but at the end of the day I think that’s the way of the future for this franchise.

    I’m happy to say that I’ll just forget spectre and pretend the series ended with skyfall with bond proving he can survive forever and then going off on many missions.

    The truth is that these idiots can’t handle bond forever though.
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    Sad day, people. The more I think about it, the more upset I get. Look at how long it took for us to get solid news regarding our director. We were just starting to get news regarding production, now we’re back to square one.

    It feels like climbing up half a mountain and then falling off and being told to start again.

    Maybe I don’t want to

    Kind of like Sir Roger falling off that cliff in for your eyes only did he quit no he kept going that's we need to do just keep going
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    edited August 2018 Posts: 4,583
    echo wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    1. Some of you need to STOP with the Martin Campbell nonsense!!!!! Seriously.

    Or you could stop. Just sayin.

    Campbell's great work after CR: tell me. I'll wait. I mean, CR was twelve years ago. So breakdown the brilliant directing career of Martin Campbell, 2006-2018. That'll be entertaining. The woodie that some of you have for this hack is one of the great mysteries on this site.

    And yet...your screen name is...?

    Here is what I wrote: "Campbell's great work after CR: tell me. I'll wait. I mean, CR was twelve years ago. So breakdown the brilliant directing career of Martin Campbell, 2006-2018."

    So the issue is that MC hasn't done much since CR. That said...

    CR is solidly in my Top 5. But tbh it's a great film in spite of Campbell and not because of him. I don't have the time to break down the film, scene by scene, and point out just how amateurish much of Campbell's work was on that film. It's not worth anyone's time. There are terrific moments, for sure. The choice to use B&W to open the film was brilliant. But there are many moments in the film that you would likely show first-year films students as what NOT to do.

  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    Posts: 12,480
    peter wrote: »
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    What’s even more of a slap in the face is that they tell us they’ve lost their director with no details, no explanation, and no apparent remedy. We’ve only waited for what seems like an eternity for this film to finally get going, and now this. Give us some reassurance, EON.

    This is because this is business as usual for them. The director is gone, but everything else is in place. They've already spent a lot of money on the script, casting director and staff, locations; they've got permits to shoot in certain places... It's business as usual.

    And, I still think they will go with Hodge's script. That is, until Mendes or a safe director is hired.

    If that happens, the locations, casting and script get canned; they go back to the P&W script. Delay by three to four months to polish that script, and get back on the horse.

    Keep an eye on the director. If he's edgy-- and that includes Demange-- I see a polished Hodge script (with a writer/writers to "up" the action); if it's a Mendes-type, I can see a u-turn back to P&W...


    This I can agree with. I have no idea what will happen, but this makes sense to me.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
    Posts: 2,730
    TripAces wrote: »
    echo wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    1. Some of you need to STOP with the Martin Campbell nonsense!!!!! Seriously.

    Or you could stop. Just sayin.

    Campbell's great work after CR: tell me. I'll wait. I mean, CR was twelve years ago. So breakdown the brilliant directing career of Martin Campbell, 2006-2018. That'll be entertaining. The woodie that some of you have for this hack is one of the great mysteries on this site.

    And yet...your screen name is...?

    CR is solidly in my Top 5. But it's a great film in spite of Campbell and not because of him. I don't have the time to break down the film, scene by scene, and point out just how amateurish much of Campbell's work was on that film. It's not worth anyone's time. There are terrific moments, for sure. The choice to use B&W to open the film was brilliant. But there are many moments in the film that you would likely show first-year films students as what NOT to do.

    Wah
    Bloody hell.
    Now I’m gonna need a breakdown because those are some serious accusations
  • Posts: 1,970
    =bg= wrote: »
    This guy says 'Craig is halfway out the door.' Sorry, where does it say that? Must have missed this news.

    https://www.theringer.com/movies/2018/8/21/17765602/danny-boyle-leaves-bond-25-james-bond-franchise-future

    EON most likely has Craig locked into a contract.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
    Posts: 2,730
    TripAces wrote: »
    echo wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    1. Some of you need to STOP with the Martin Campbell nonsense!!!!! Seriously.

    Or you could stop. Just sayin.

    Campbell's great work after CR: tell me. I'll wait. I mean, CR was twelve years ago. So breakdown the brilliant directing career of Martin Campbell, 2006-2018. That'll be entertaining. The woodie that some of you have for this hack is one of the great mysteries on this site.

    And yet...your screen name is...?

    CR is solidly in my Top 5. But it's a great film in spite of Campbell and not because of him. I don't have the time to break down the film, scene by scene, and point out just how amateurish much of Campbell's work was on that film. It's not worth anyone's time. There are terrific moments, for sure. The choice to use B&W to open the film was brilliant. But there are many moments in the film that you would likely show first-year films students as what NOT to do.

    Wah
    Bloody hell.
    Now I’m gonna need a breakdown because those are some serious accusations
    fjdinardo wrote: »
    =bg= wrote: »
    This guy says 'Craig is halfway out the door.' Sorry, where does it say that? Must have missed this news.

    https://www.theringer.com/movies/2018/8/21/17765602/danny-boyle-leaves-bond-25-james-bond-franchise-future

    EON most likely has Craig locked into a contract.

    Maybe he’ll slash his wrists instead of waiting an extra year
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited August 2018 Posts: 12,480
    Wow, people .... okay, I will tiptoe back much later after this _________ (insert your own description of people's reactions) settles down a bit.

    I certainly think Daniel will be in Bond 25. We have people here who seem to think everything is now lost/changed/gone. I believe we will have a decent director named soon, and probably with a slightly changed/polished script as Peter suggested. I am not panicking or deeply distubed.

    I am disappointed because I liked the idea of Boyle directing a Bond film. This is part of show biz, movie biz ... I trust they will handle it without making a huge screw up. I am not losing sleep over this.

    Bye for now, but I'll check back for news of course from time to time.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    Posts: 12,480
    Oh, and I like Campbell very much as a director. I think they will go with someone else, though. I don't get the Campbell bashing at all. Lots of ugliness popping out on this thread as people assume the "worst" (and we all have our own version of that).
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    Posts: 3,126
    Yeah kind of agree everyone needs to calm down
  • Posts: 12,462
    We definitely need to wait a little to see just how bad the damage is. There’s a lot of reasonable disappointment going around, myself included, but we might still luck out if they can simply move ahead with the current casting/script set in place and nab a decent director in time. I’m definitely disappointed we lost Boyle, but while I inititally thought “delay,” we don’t know for certain. I like to think if they were going to have to blow the whole thing up beyond Boyle (script / current casting), we would have heard by now.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    It will be interesting to see if they end up with one of the people they've already spoken with during their earlier search for a director, or someone new.

    Irrespective, I still think they will need a reasonably well known name to helm this, after the hoopla caused by Boyle's initial announcement and now his untimely departure. A newbie or someone less high profile won't look so good, as they were relying on Boyle for quite a bit of the marketing publicity and hype.

    Hitting that much ballyhooed "high" will depend on far more than the script. The direction and casting will be critical. So I'm quite curious to see who they finally go with. The guy (or gal) will have to be experienced enough to work under a reasonably tight timeline on what is a relatively large production - presumably with limited input to change direction at this stage.

    It's quite amazing how tight lipped everything has been, especially since people at Universal and Annapurna are probably privy to details. One would expect leaks.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    edited August 2018 Posts: 4,583
    TripAces wrote: »
    echo wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    1. Some of you need to STOP with the Martin Campbell nonsense!!!!! Seriously.

    Or you could stop. Just sayin.

    Campbell's great work after CR: tell me. I'll wait. I mean, CR was twelve years ago. So breakdown the brilliant directing career of Martin Campbell, 2006-2018. That'll be entertaining. The woodie that some of you have for this hack is one of the great mysteries on this site.

    And yet...your screen name is...?

    CR is solidly in my Top 5. But it's a great film in spite of Campbell and not because of him. I don't have the time to break down the film, scene by scene, and point out just how amateurish much of Campbell's work was on that film. It's not worth anyone's time. There are terrific moments, for sure. The choice to use B&W to open the film was brilliant. But there are many moments in the film that you would likely show first-year films students as what NOT to do.

    Wah
    Bloody hell.
    Now I’m gonna need a breakdown because those are some serious accusations

    1. Entire embassy sequence. The pull back from the embassy sign (with one of Arnold's worst pieces playing). The somersault, with the close up. The constant closeups of actor's faces, when they are 100% unnecessary. Even a close-up of a CC camera, button, and a siren. The set design inside the embassy is something out of an 80s MacGyver episode. And then there's the embarrassing exterior shot which, we can all tell, is really a sound stage with painted trees in the bg.



    2. The Ford car commercial in the Bahamas. :22-:27. Just dreadful.



    3. Prague is NOT Miami.

    art120927-prague-casino-royale-10.jpeg

    4. The overly-long Miami airport sequence with, again, more dumb closeups (who films a close up of Bond like this? 4:44-4:46).



    5. Even worse, who the hell films a close-up of Bond like this????



    6. Speaking of the poisoning, was having Bond spun around by a moving car, outside the casino, a good move? No. It was 100% cliche.

    Now, is this being nitpicky? Perhaps. But if I am critiquing a director's work, I have to be. Directors have choices. And what to shoot is meant to give the audience information. Too often, MC informs us of the meaningless and at times when what we are seeing is supposed to be meaningful, he undermines it with blocking and close-ups more suitable for cheesy TV.

    CR overcomes these flaws in other ways. DC is brilliant. The script is great. The rest of Arnold's score, aside from what's mentioned above, is good. And MC has some moments: the pull back from Bond and Vesper in the shower is the best scene in the film and one of the best in the Craig era. But overall, MC isn't in Forster or Mendes's class.

    So when fans clamor for Campbell's return, I am miffed.
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    Posts: 3,126
    We definitely need to wait a little to see just how bad the damage is. There’s a lot of reasonable disappointment going around, myself included, but we might still luck out if they can simply move ahead with the current casting/script set in place and nab a decent director in time. I’m definitely disappointed we lost Boyle, but while I inititally thought “delay,” we don’t know for certain. I like to think if they were going to have to blow the whole thing up beyond Boyle (script / current casting), we would have heard by now.[/quote]
    @FoxRox I agree we need to see first before just panicking and running around like the world is ending
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    Posts: 3,126
    bondjames wrote: »
    It will be interesting to see if they end up with one of the people they've already spoken with during their earlier search for a director, or someone new.

    Irrespective, I still think they will need a reasonably well known name to helm this, after the hoopla caused by Boyle's initial announcement and now his untimely departure. A newbie or someone less high profile won't look so good, as they were relying on Boyle for quite a bit of the marketing publicity and hype.

    Hitting that much ballyhooed "high" will depend on far more than the script. The direction and casting will be critical. So I'm quite curious to see who they finally go with. The guy (or gal) will have to be experienced enough to work under a reasonably tight timeline on what is a relatively large production - presumably with limited input to change direction at this stage.

    It's quite amazing how tight lipped everything has been, especially since people at Universal and Annapurna are probably privy to details. One would expect leaks.

    @bondjames im supprised too universal and Annapurna must not be to worried
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