No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    "Danny Boyle has decided to no longer direct Bond 25".

    What if he is just stepping down as director, but staying on with Hodge as a sort of creative consultant / producer?
  • RC7RC7
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    Red_Snow wrote: »
    "Danny Boyle has decided to no longer direct Bond 25".

    What if he is just stepping down as director, but staying on with Hodge as a sort of creative consultant / producer?

    Nope.
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    bondsum wrote: »
    What @peter was commenting on was that Eon own the script that Hodge’s wrote and it’s up to them if they want to change it, bring in different writers to give it a polish or flush it down the toilet.

    It's getting flushed.

  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    Britain calls up Danny Boyle and Peter Jackson for Armistice centenary
    https://thetimes.co.uk/article/britain-calls-up-danny-boyle-and-peter-jackson-for-armistice-centenary-hgks90zwj

    This was published on 19 August, 2018, so his departure would have been known about for some time if he's already taking on new projects in November 2018.
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    bondsum wrote: »
    Of course Eon own the script that Hodge’s wrote, @Escalus5. Just like they owned the Anthony Burgess TSWLM script that was never used. Do you seriously think that they’d hire and pay a screenwriter that kept sole rights to whether they could use it or not?

    @bondsum Does that mean it's unlike the Anthony Burgess Foundation has a copy? I wanted to have a look at that script when I visit it.

    On a side note am I the only one who was not enthusiastic about Boyle being the director?
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    This just in from the Hollywood Reporter,and its a very interesting read :

    Why It's Time for James Bond to Move On .

    In a surprising turn of events, Danny Boyle has exited Bond 25, which had been scheduled to begin production in December for a November 2019 release. Citing creative differences, producers Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli, along with star Daniel Craig made the official announcement Tuesday afternoon.

    The road to Bond 25 has been a long one. After a long search and much deliberation by Eon Productions, Oscar winner Danny Boyle (2008's Slumdog Millionaire) signed on to direct and write (alongside John Hodge) in March. Though the short production schedule was somewhat worrying, it seemed promising that Boyle would be able to bring something new to the franchise and place Craig’s Bond in a position he hadn’t been in before. Although the star seemed by numerous media appearances to be burned out on Bond, hiring Boyle seemed like a reinvigorating move that would allow this iteration of 007 to go out on a high note. But with the director decamping, and increased rumors and speculation about who will step into the tuxedo and Aston Martin next, maybe it’ll be better for everyone if we admit that it’s time to let Daniel Craig’s Bond rest in peace

    Without a doubt, Craig has headlined some of the long-running franchise’s best films, and he stands as a personal favorite Bond. Earlier this year, I asked if there was anything left for the actor to do as Bond, and landed on the decision that with Boyle, the answer was "yes." But without the celebrated filmmaker, who seemed sure to deconstruct the character in an emotionally cathartic way, what are we looking at? Sure, it’s feasible to imagine some great set pieces, maybe a well-cast adversary or two, but for Craig’s Bond, who has been the most introspective and emotionally damaged of all the 007 iterations, it seems his story has found closure. Unless a new director can find a way to challenge the character that wouldn’t end in “creative differences,” it really does seem like Craig has explored all he has to offer with James Bond.

    Spectre (2015), while not the best of Craig’s run despite bringing back Skyfall’s director Sam Mendes, did manage to tie up all the loose ends of the previous three installments. We see Bond come to terms with his past, finally unveil the reach of Quantum and face off against a classic adversary in Christoph Waltz’s Blofeld. The super spy even manages to curtail his womanizing ways and enter a relationship, with Madeleine Swann (Lea Seydoux), that promises permanence. Although perhaps too tidy, and too dependent on things the franchise had done before, Spectre feels like a far better sendoff than the rest of the Bonds received.

    Despite the sentiment going into Bond 25 that the film will allow Craig to end his tenure with one of the best installments, the fact remains that such an ending has yet to be achieved with any of the long-running Bonds , many of whom stayed well past the age where they could perform without looking stiff and tired. Sean Connery’s run ended with the silly Bond in Vegas entry, Diamonds Are Forever (1971). Roger Moore wrapped things up in A View to s Kill (1985), where he couldn’t match the high energy of Christopher Walken’s villain.

    Timothy Dalton’s Licence to Kill (1989) was a controversial departure from Bond that owed more to Miami Vice than MI6. And poor Pierce Brosnan was left with what many consider to be the worst in the franchise, Die Another Day (2002). Even the one-and-done George Lazenby’s On Her Majesty’s Secret Service ended on a downer with Bond’s wife being killed. If history serves as a map to the future, then we should consider ourselves lucky if Spectre does end up being Craig’s last entry.


    Although much has been made about Craig’s age, he’ll be 50 if the film still manages to start production this year, that remains a secondary issue. Roger Moore was 58 when he retired from Bond in 1985. Fifty-six-year-old Tom Cruise just delivered one of the best action movies of his career with Mission: Impossible – Fallout, though no one can quite match the youthful vigor of Cruise. Age isn’t an issue, especially since stars have stopped aging like they used to in Connery and Moore’s days.

    What is an issue is that it feels like Craig has been Bond for a long time. Cast in 2005, Craig has held the role of James Bond longer than any other actor. His 13 years with the mantle edges out Moore’s 12. There’s simply a feeling, blame it on the buzz over Idris Elba being rumored to take over the role, or Craig’s agitated comments about returning for another, that most audiences are ready to see the actor move on. In the time since Craig became Bond to the present, we’ve seen two Supermen, two Batmen, three Spider-Men, new iterations of the crew of the starship Enterprise, and new Jedi. Even Hugh Jackman hung up his Wolverine claws. Every iconic property has its life cycle, and eventually needs revamping and fresh blood to get audiences involved again. In 2018, the prospect of a new Bond feels more exciting than seeing Craig return as 007 in 2019. That’s doubly true without Boyle.

    Spectre may not have gotten the pomp and circumstance of being Craig’s last entry, but perhaps it’s better that way. It’s a fitting end to one of the best interpretations of the character, that is should Broccoli and Wilson see fit to leave it there. Rushing a new script and another Bond into production to meet the release date next year seems ill-advised and an insult to all that Craig has put into his performance. And waiting another year or two for a 2020 or 2021 release date drains any momentum left in an arc that fans are already anxious to see conclude. Rather than force an entry that is apparently no longer there, Eon should go back to the drawing board and figure out who the next Bond is, who can write and direct it, and what the character can mean for the upcoming decade. Craig hasn’t left the role yet, but his Bond seems to be in the midst of death throes. While it may be premature, it seems for now that James Bond is dead. Long live James Bond.
  • edited August 2018 Posts: 628
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Does that mean it's unlike the Anthony Burgess Foundation has a copy? I wanted to have a look at that script when I visit it.

    You might want to call the archivist to make sure, but I would be surprised if Danjaq's rights extended to the storage of the script. Westlake's treatments are part of his papers held at Boston University.
    Ludovico wrote: »
    On a side note am I the only one who was not enthusiastic about Boyle being the director?

    No. I wasn't either.
  • SatoriousSatorious Brushing up on a little Danish
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    This is certainly stirring up lots of emotion, but far too much doom and gloom. Only those involved know what is really going on, it's a shock to us but all kinds of crazy things go on behind the scenes when making a film. There is as of yet no mention that Daniel Craig will leave Bond25, no mention that the release date has been pushed back (it might), no mention that everyone is in complete disarray, no mention of Purvis and Wade coming back etc. It's fine to speculate a bit but let's wait for more news before we all catastophize the worst and using it as an example of how crap certain key players are... I'm sure there are plans in place - even more if the current situation isn't ideal. All that matters is we get a solid (hopefully awesome) Bond adventure at the end of the day.

  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Escalus5 wrote: »
    bondsum wrote: »
    Of course Eon own the script that Hodge’s wrote, @Escalus5. Just like they owned the Anthony Burgess TSWLM script that was never used. Do you seriously think that they’d hire and pay a screenwriter that kept sole rights to whether they could use it or not?

    "Sole rights," no (considering that Bond and other recurring characters are not theirs). But I'm guessing Boyle and Hodge retain some control over aspects of the script, much like Donald Westlake when he wrote a novel based on his story treatments.

    No @escalus, you’re wrong: once EoN, like any other producer, purchases a script, they are the sole owners and can do anything they want with the script.
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    Escalus5 wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Does that mean it's unlike the Anthony Burgess Foundation has a copy? I wanted to have a look at that script when I visit it.

    You might want to call the archivist to make sure, but I would be surprised if Danjaq's rights extended to the storage of the script. Westlake's treatments are part of his papers held at Boston University.
    Ludovico wrote: »
    On a side note am I the only one who was not enthusiastic about Boyle being the director?

    No. I wasn't either.

    I might get in touch with Andrew Biswell before my next trip, whenever that will be.
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    I honestly don’t know @Ludovico? There could still be a copy at the Anthony Burgess Foundation.

    In answer to your side note, I’ll admit that there was a part of me that harboured extreme doubts whether Boyle could actually deliver a great Bond movie. I was waiting for further confirmation on the story and production details before I raised these doubts. In saying that, I was quite enthusiastic by the news of the casting calls, especially after the fake CashleyPersia rumours.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Escalus5 wrote: »
    bondsum wrote: »
    What @peter was commenting on was that Eon own the script that Hodge’s wrote and it’s up to them if they want to change it, bring in different writers to give it a polish or flush it down the toilet.

    It's getting flushed.

    Could be right, although they’ve taken steps to produce that script, it was the director who had an issue, or the producers who had an issue with the director.

    But they were gearing up and casting for that story in that script.

    But, anything could happen...
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    bondsum wrote: »
    Of course Eon own the script that Hodge’s wrote, @Escalus5. Just like they owned the Anthony Burgess TSWLM script that was never used. Do you seriously think that they’d hire and pay a screenwriter that kept sole rights to whether they could use it or not?

    Exactly.

    Presuming the script (or even the P&W script) is in good shape, there's an easy way for Babs to change the narrative: hire Susanne Bier. First female director on a Bond film. Boyle who?
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    This just in from the Hollywood Reporter,and its a very interesting read :

    Why It's Time for James Bond to Move On .

    ……
    What a load of utter bs. Typical badly researched crap.
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    boldfinger wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    This just in from the Hollywood Reporter,and its a very interesting read :

    Why It's Time for James Bond to Move On .

    ……
    What a load of utter bs. Typical badly researched crap.
    I love the way that they immediately start with the 'James Bond is dead' shit as soon as there is a snag in the production.

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    boldfinger wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    This just in from the Hollywood Reporter,and its a very interesting read :

    Why It's Time for James Bond to Move On .

    ……
    What a load of utter bs. Typical badly researched crap.
    Agreed. If I had a dollar for every time I read an article on: its time for Bond to move on or hang up his holster (Insert reasons why the producers should call it quits here) then I’d be quite comfortably off living on my own tropical island. I expected more from THR, but it was an eye-rolling, lazy bit of journalism, just like so many that have been doing the rounds since the days of Roger Moore. Now, it’s that kind of editorial detritus that needs to be flushed.
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    They have a script. They are casting right NOW. Production is not stopping. We are looking at a change in director. I think it's likely Boyle walked a few weeks ago, but EON only just put out the announcement. I would imagine Babs and Dan have a top 3 list of directors and have already met with them, shared the script, etc. etc. I would be very, VERY surprised if we don't get an announcement in the next 4 weeks of who the director of Bond 25 will be. And I firmly believe Bond 25 will be in cinemas in November 2019.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
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    SonofSean wrote: »
    They have a script. They are casting right NOW. Production is not stopping. We are looking at a change in director. I think it's likely Boyle walked a few weeks ago, but EON only just put out the announcement. I would imagine Babs and Dan have a top 3 list of directors and have already met with them, shared the script, etc. etc. I would be very, VERY surprised if we don't get an announcement in the next 4 weeks of who the director of Bond 25 will be. And I firmly believe Bond 25 will be in cinemas in November 2019.

    I wish I had your optimism.
  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
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    Matthew Vaughn?
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    SonofSean wrote: »
    They have a script. They are casting right NOW. Production is not stopping. We are looking at a change in director. I think it's likely Boyle walked a few weeks ago, but EON only just put out the announcement. I would imagine Babs and Dan have a top 3 list of directors and have already met with them, shared the script, etc. etc. I would be very, VERY surprised if we don't get an announcement in the next 4 weeks of who the director of Bond 25 will be. And I firmly believe Bond 25 will be in cinemas in November 2019.

    It would be interesting to know when he left the project. As you write, @SonofSean, it could have been weeks ago. Could it even have been even earlier too?
  • SonofSean wrote: »
    They have a script. They are casting right NOW. Production is not stopping. We are looking at a change in director. I think it's likely Boyle walked a few weeks ago, but EON only just put out the announcement. I would imagine Babs and Dan have a top 3 list of directors and have already met with them, shared the script, etc. etc. I would be very, VERY surprised if we don't get an announcement in the next 4 weeks of who the director of Bond 25 will be. And I firmly believe Bond 25 will be in cinemas in November 2019.

    I agree. I really doubt we will see a delay in the release date, they just need to find a director as soon as possible so that filming can still begin in December. I'm sure they have some breathing room yet.
  • According to this Guardian article, the Hodges script is dumped. Purvis and Wade's will be polished. Craig may go off the project and the earliest we see the film is late 2020:

    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/aug/22/danny-boyle-james-bond-daniel-craig
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    According to this Guardian article, the Hodges script is dumped. Purvis and Wade's will be polished. Craig may go off the project and the earliest we see the film is late 2020:

    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/aug/22/danny-boyle-james-bond-daniel-craig

    You can t trust those hacks. Maybe Boyle got too political? No big loss as far as I am concerned.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    Roadphill wrote: »
    Matthew Vaughn?

    Set to start Kingsman 3 in January
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    According to this Guardian article, the Hodges script is dumped. Purvis and Wade's will be polished. Craig may go off the project and the earliest we see the film is late 2020:

    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/aug/22/danny-boyle-james-bond-daniel-craig

    All right then, a relaunch with a new actor.

    Campbell +. Hemsworth + Arnold

  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
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    According to this Guardian article, the Hodges script is dumped. Purvis and Wade's will be polished. Craig may go off the project and the earliest we see the film is late 2020:

    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/aug/22/danny-boyle-james-bond-daniel-craig

    Journalistic jumping the gun, as ever. To be honest though, Im looking forward to Craig leaving . His era felt fresh at the beginning, but now feels stale as old bread
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    talos7 wrote: »
    According to this Guardian article, the Hodges script is dumped. Purvis and Wade's will be polished. Craig may go off the project and the earliest we see the film is late 2020:

    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/aug/22/danny-boyle-james-bond-daniel-craig

    All right then, a relaunch with a new actor.

    Campbell +. Hemsworth + Arnold

    I'm up for that !!
    Count me in @talos7 !!

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    talos7 wrote: »
    All right then, a relaunch with a new actor.

    Campbell +. Hemsworth + Arnold

    My vote would be Hiddleston with Susanne Bier directing and Steven Knight writing.

  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    LeChiffre wrote: »
    I bet he wanted a 15 rated Bond. Pity he's gone. Would have been nice to see a gritty Bond as a cold hearted assassin.

    Between that and the likely low action Boyle wanted, I think we have a pretty good idea of why it didn’t work out
  • edited August 2018 Posts: 824
    If Craig leaves then forget 3rd December for start of shooting. Even if he stays can they knock the Purvis/Wade script into shape and have a competent director in place to meet the 3rd December deadline? Also the production has been geared around the Hodges script, the Purvis/Wade script is unrelated..........big change of direction for the production.
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