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  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
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    peter wrote: »
    It's obvious what's happened here; the writing's on the wall!

    Universal's dropped out of the one pic deal and 20th Century Fox has taken their place. The've asked for a re-cast immediately, and Days of Future Past star Michael Fassbender is the new 007 for a one pic standalone.

    Oooh, stop getting my hopes up for a Fassbender Bond!
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    you're on the pay-roll too @Risico007 ??
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
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    Why wasn’t I included???? I’m as much a superfan as anyone else :(
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Yes, but what kind of superfan, @FoxRox ?? They do have selective tastes, and....
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I must say this Fox thing is at the very least somewhat unusual, no? Why would it direct there, even momentarily? Some kind of system glitch perhaps.
    --
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    So I was thinking about the announcement from a week ago. Am I the only one who thinks it's strangely short? I mean compare this....
    Michael G. Wilson, Barbara Broccoli and Daniel Craig today announced that due to creative differences Danny Boyle has decided to no longer direct Bond 25.

    ...to this Lucasfilm announcement from June 2017:
    The untitled Han Solo film will move forward with a directorial change.

    “Phil Lord and Christopher Miller are talented filmmakers who have assembled an incredible cast and crew, but it’s become clear that we had different creative visions on this film, and we’ve decided to part ways. A new director will be announced soon,” said Kathleen Kennedy, president of Lucasfilm.

    “Unfortunately, our vision and process weren’t aligned with our partners on this project. We normally aren’t fans of the phrase ‘creative differences’ but for once this cliché is true. We are really proud of the amazing and world-class work of our cast and crew,” stated Phil Lord and Christopher Miller.

    The untitled Han Solo film remains scheduled for a May 2018 release.

    The Lucasfilm announcement sounds about 10 times more professional, is much more hopeful and far less vague. By comparison, it seems like EON is trying to hide something.
    I think all of MGM/EON's announcements over the past year and a half have been brief and uninformative. Moreover, they have also been wrong, at least twice (P&W and Boyle/Hodge).
  • ShakenNotStirredShakenNotStirred
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    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    ShakenNotStirred wrote: »
    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    007.com keeps reverting to the 20th Century fox website. What do we think this means?

    uh oh, Something big is happening?
    THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE NEW DIRECTOR MUST BE IMMINENT. THE HYPE BEGINS!

    Well, barring maintenance like jake24 suggested, it could be something! It may not be news.. yet.
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
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    I don’t know if it’s just a glitch or whatever, but I feel like this Fox movies thing has to mean something

    @peter Whatever kind I need to be to get on that payroll!!! ;)
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
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    For someone who easily forgets details like this; what is 20th Century Fox's association with EON again?
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    @bondjames I believe the website is Fox-operated (they still have that Home Media deal until 2020). The Fox logo also appeared along with MGM's on the 007 site.
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
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    Blast. It probably is nothing then.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    For someone who easily forgets details like this; what is 20th Century Fox's association with EON again?
    They distribute the home releases.
    jake24 wrote: »
    @bondjames I believe the website is Fox-operated (they still have that Home Media deal until 2020). The Fox logo also appeared along with MGM's on the 007 site.
    Oh, right, that makes sense. Thanks @jake24.
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
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    peter wrote: »
    It's obvious what's happened here; the writing's on the wall!

    Universal's dropped out of the one pic deal and 20th Century Fox has taken their place. The've asked for a re-cast immediately, and Days of Future Past star Michael Fassbender is the new 007 for a one pic standalone.
    Business as usual.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    edited August 2018 Posts: 17,764
    bondjames wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    For someone who easily forgets details like this; what is 20th Century Fox's association with EON again?
    They distribute the home releases.

    Thanks!
    If 20th Century Fox has anything to do with the hosting of 007.com (or similar), it can be a maintenance going on, redirecting visitors instead of showing a maintenance message. Could also be a possibility they are doing a complete overhaul on the design; never liked the layout of that site myself.
  • kg54mvpkg54mvp USA
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    Phew what a roller coaster of emotions!
  • MooreFunMooreFun
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    Last_Rat_Standing wrote: »
    Mark Strong as Blofeld

    I'm already struggling to avoid getting my hopes up for a proper YOLT adaptation and you have to go and do this...
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
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    kg54mvp wrote: »
    Phew what a roller coaster of emotions!

    It'll be like this until we get some real news! Any rumour, any site update etc. will do this.
  • Risico007Risico007
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    peter wrote: »
    you're on the pay-roll too @Risico007 ??

    Yes you don’t see me at the meetings I’m the one with the big hat and the fake mustache
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
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    I agree with this guy https://www.google.com/amp/s/screenrant.com/james-bond-movies-problems/amp/
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Risico007 wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    you're on the pay-roll too @Risico007 ??

    Yes you don’t see me at the meetings I’m the one with the big hat and the fake mustache

    Of course, Mr. Risico!
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited August 2018 Posts: 23,883
    A fine article in my view, which touches on many of the issues we have discussed here over the years. Their final conclusion as to what is required for B25 mirrors my own thinking.

    https://screenrant.com/james-bond-movies-problems/

    EDIT: Sorry, I hadn't noticed that you had just posted this @007Blofeld. Glad we agree.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    It's obvious what's happened here; the writing's on the wall!

    Universal's dropped out of the one pic deal and 20th Century Fox has taken their place. The've asked for a re-cast immediately, and Days of Future Past star Michael Fassbender is the new 007 for a one pic standalone.
    Business as usual.

    Exactly.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    bondjames wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    @jake24 To an extent, they are. Still, I think many blow it out of proportion just how connected they are, like they can't be viewed individually whatsoever.
    The retconning was done quite poorly and vaguely, so the connections are definitely left up to interpretation for the most part (which is a good thing, I suppose?).
    The retcon has certainly impacted my enjoyment of the earlier entries. SF is perhaps the only one I still can enjoy without thinking of the connections, and that's why it's fast becoming my favourite Craig entry, while CR is declining. Each time I watch it I am reminded of SP, primarily due to Mr. White and his 'organization'. Shame really.

    @bondjames But surely they used "organization" in CR as they did not yet have the rights to SPECTRE. Ditto for Quantum in QOS. It was already SPECTRE in all but name and the new era was meant to have a recurring menace like the SPECTRE of old.

    This Shatterhand title kind of shattered (ha, ha!) my idea that Bond 25 will be a complete standalone, Boyle or no Boyle, Hodge or no Hodge. How much can they ignore the events of the previous movie anyway, even ignoring Blofeld altogether?
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    @jake24 To an extent, they are. Still, I think many blow it out of proportion just how connected they are, like they can't be viewed individually whatsoever.
    The retconning was done quite poorly and vaguely, so the connections are definitely left up to interpretation for the most part (which is a good thing, I suppose?).
    The retcon has certainly impacted my enjoyment of the earlier entries. SF is perhaps the only one I still can enjoy without thinking of the connections, and that's why it's fast becoming my favourite Craig entry, while CR is declining. Each time I watch it I am reminded of SP, primarily due to Mr. White and his 'organization'. Shame really.

    @bondjames But surely they used "organization" in CR as they did not yet have the rights to SPECTRE. Ditto for Quantum in QOS. It was already SPECTRE in all but name and the new era was meant to have a recurring menace like the SPECTRE of old.
    I agree @Ludovico, but at that point (meaning in 2008, when QoS was released), we only had the prospect of something dangerous and sinister. It had not yet been fully revealed. So the anticipation was there and could be left to the imagination. It is only with SP that we saw the full realization of this 'organization' and its participants (that 'C' and Brofeld), and unfortunately for me, the execution left a terrible taste in the mouth, soiling prior entries to a degree.

    So it's not the theorethical concept of SPECTRE or even of an evil organization controlling the strings that is the problem for me - rather it is being reminded directly of the disappointing reality of the last film (rather than some imagined vision as before) and all that I dislike about it.
    Ludovico wrote: »
    This Shatterhand title kind of shattered (ha, ha!) my idea that Bond 25 will be a complete standalone, Boyle or no Boyle, Hodge or no Hodge. How much can they ignore the events of the previous movie anyway, even ignoring Blofeld altogether?
    I do wonder if MI: Fallout made EON want to connect back to the earlier films in some way (even if it didn't mean Blofeld or Spectre), and this is what ticked off Boyle.
  • UnivexUnivex
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    bondjames wrote: »
    A fine article in my view, which touches on many of the issues we have discussed here over the years. Their final conclusion as to what is required for B25 mirrors my own thinking.
    https://screenrant.com/james-bond-movies-problems/

    Bloody hell, it really is a fine article. Their final conclusion being the cherry on top of a well baked cake. And something we've been endlessly advocating.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited August 2018 Posts: 4,638
    Univex wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    A fine article in my view, which touches on many of the issues we have discussed here over the years. Their final conclusion as to what is required for B25 mirrors my own thinking.
    https://screenrant.com/james-bond-movies-problems/

    Bloody hell, it really is a fine article. Their final conclusion being the cherry on top of a well baked cake. And something we've been endlessly advocating.

    And people say we're too hard on P & W. Everyone else is tired of them being writers as well! This isn't the first time that they've said enough with them!

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/screenrant.com/james-bond-25-writers-purvis-wade/amp/
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    writing awesome scripts is easy.
  • Pierce2DanielPierce2Daniel
    edited August 2018 Posts: 4,409
    So it's been a week since Danny Boyle pulled out. It seems as though whatever plans Eon have put into place since are still coming together or haven't worked out.

    Since no new director has been appointed and the beginning of September is fast approaching, what do we think this means? I imagine the list of four names from last week has expanded but surely we can expect an announcement any moment now? The bank holiday weekend in the UK has passed, so someone has clearly got the offer. It's just a matter of whether they accept.

    So far, these are the name:

    Yann Demange
    Jean-Marc Valleé
    David Mackenzie
    Edgar Wright

    I think 2020 becomes more likely with every passing day without news.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Are we sure Mackenzie is back on the shortlist? Or are people just going by the original list of names from last year?
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
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    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    I think 2020 becomes more likely with every passing day without news.

    If they can't make the 2019 release date, they should just cancel this film, sell the rights and let Nolan take charge. He will probably make another movie before his Bond film, so Chris Nolan's BOND 25 could be released around 2022.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    So it's been a week since Danny Boyle pulled out. It seems as though whatever plans Eon have put into place since are still coming together or haven't worked out.

    Since no new director has been appointed and the beginning of September is fast approaching, what do we think this means? I imagine the list of four names from last week has expanded but surely we can expect an announcement any moment now? The bank holiday weekend in the UK has passed, so someone has clearly got the offer. It's just a matter of whether they accept.

    So far, these are the name:

    Yann Demange
    Jean-Marc Valleé
    David Mackenzie
    Edgar Wright

    I think 2020 becomes more likely with every passing day without news.

    Yes, the announcement was last Monday.

    Reports we and others have heard is Boyle left the Thursday before (Aug 23)...

    The talent they went to, and their reps, have to read the script(s), and set their plan in motion before going back to EoN.

    Deadline reported they have 60 days to fill the position.

    My gut says its sometime'ish now'ish and TIFF.

    But, this could be wrong and it's more Deadline's timeline (some time in October).

    Either way: strap yourselves in-- it will be a bumpy ride (with Fassbender sure to take over the tux from snotty/bratty/bully Craig)
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