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Both great films but Crusade just has the edge for me. Probably because of Sean’s presence.
Never liked Temple and haven’t even watched Skulls.
Die Hard is a different question entirely. I'd put the first three ahead of many Bond films.
Love Harrison and Bruce though. Like the great Tom, these guys elevated any franchise offering they were in. Megastars in their prime.
https://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3518668/terminator-time-travels-earlier-date/
Bond and Terminator both appeal to a very similar demographic, so there is a chance that this is Paramount's attempt to capitalise on Universal's loss.
But has B25 been delayed?
Theme song lyrics:
He has a hand that SHATTERS!
He's got a SHATTERHAND!
No doubt this would've have been an ambiguous interpretation, making it easier to transition to the new actor in 26. I've thought for a while that the change to a new actor from Craig will be one of the more difficult ones to pull off due to the way his interpretation has been self-contained with a clear passage of time from fresh faced new boy to grizzled veteran.
As the YOLT novel has been rumoured to be the main inspiration for the new film, I would imagine it would be an ending very similar to that, so something like:
- Bond defeats baddie in cliff top castle
- Castle explodes
- Bond presumed dead
- Solemn ceremony aboard Royal Navy vessel, Union Jack draped empty coffin dropped overboard
- End titles
- Post credit scene - shot of empty beach, waves lapping at sand, union jack washed ashore. Pan to still white hand, twitches. Cuts to black.
Bond 26
- opens with - aboard Royal navy ship. Officer looking through binoculars to small island. Sees well-built man exit treetop den with pacific island lovely. "I think we've found him Sir". Cue Tom Hardy...
This would actually be awesome. Chris Hemsworth though I think would be better suited to this kind of Bond.
It's just occurred to me but is it possible that Hodge's script was actually working within the YOLT parameters as well as Purvis and Wade?
While Die Hard will always have special place for me, I can remember seeing it for the first time on VHS rental in my childhood home with my brother and a group of friends huddled round a 16" colour TV and although this was a home viewing this was more memorable that any number of cinematic outings of the day.
It's truly a great film and one that has stood the test of time, although I feel some bum notes rob it of being in the same place as Raiders or Jaws.
I've never been comfortable with Mclane practically blubbing to Al about his Wife and that soppy speech, it seems out of character for the JM we see for the rest of the film.
Also Hans Gruber spectacularly descending to his death should have been more than enough of a climax for the film with the nice gentle happy coda with John finally getting to meet Al and know that Holly is safe.
I've always from day one thought that tacked on (and that is what it is) bit with the late Alexander Gudunov rising from his stretcher looking to exact revenge on Mclane and giving Al his moment to redeem his past was a step too far.
Also it might not be but that piece of music they use at that stage sounds not like Kamen's score but music from James Horner's Wrath of Khan score? To me this suggests that was definitely an after thought that possibly the studio insisted on and Kamen had no music left to use so they went to an existing score to accompany it.
It just felt like being greedy and whereas that soppy dialogue moment could have been ignored possibly, the fact they went for this to me sullies this terrific film enough for it to lose points.
Although @peter I will take that over the suggestion that Speed or FYEO is anywhere near Die Hard let alone Raiders, Crusade loses points for making a mockery of Marcus Brody despite the chemistry between Harrison & Sean being utterly delicious. I don't feel one set piece gets close to any of the ones in Raiders.
First of all you get that genius move to use the Paramount mountain logo fade into the landscape of the start of the film and then the reveal of Indiana emerging from the shadows to reveal Ford's furious face,it is approaching Connery introducing himself at the tables back in 1962 with that immortal line.
I think Raiders is pretty much the playbook to create the near perfect action adventure film, not to copy it or rip it off (Octopussy) but to learn from it's structure and pacing. It literally begins and when it pauses for a breath the moments are memorable, intelligent and full of atmosphere before it moves onto the next legendary set piece.
It's one of the reasons I've never been a fan of the Miami truck chase in CR, it feels like a pale immitation and after that inspired utterly thrilling parkour sequence a little flat although it gets the job done.
FYEO is amatuer hour in comparrison, only SWLM would be the only Moore that might get some serious consideration, although the action in OHMSS is the only one that I would say gets anywhere near replicating what Raiders does.
@peter please PM me too I'm most interested to sample some of your work as well.
Once again thanks for offering some sanity amonsgt all this hysteria, although you offer some experience and insight alongside @RC7 and others, certain individuals seem determined to blow this into a tragedy of huge proportions, I remain ever optimistic that we'll get some word soon and Bond 25 is far from in it's coffin yet.
I think DC will bounce back from all of this and SPECTRE and well and truly go out in style, I really don't think he'd be returning to go out with a damp squib.
Hear, hear!
I’ll PM you.
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Yes! I have always thought this ; I also think that bit of music has been lifted for a couple of other films .
has it?
Ok actually...I am on board with this...
Bond is presumed dead.
We see a teaser of him obviously being shown alive or someone says something like "Yeah... I know he's not dead....trust me" - shot of Bond chilling somewhere. The end.
And then the new Bond is announced and shown chilling and we basically get a new start.
I like it!
Wasn't Avengers called something like "Best friends" for its production title?
Shardlake,
To say seems a bit insulting to everyone involved on that film, but hey, we all have our opinions! And anyway, FYEO had one of the most iconic scenes in the franchise - Bond eliminating Loque. That entire scene is a classic. The gun battle in the warehouse, the explosion, Bond chasing Loque, Bond aiming, firing his gun, the car swerving to the edge of the cliff type edge, Bond kicking the car.
Hardly amateur hour film making.
I am also stunned on this Craig hatred. If this rumours were true (Craig vetoing Campbell, Mendes and Boyle), that might have an hautgout, but we don't know about it. A lot of people were opposing Crai bei
I also would like Waltz to come back as Blofeld. He said, he was not really happy with his performance, and that he did not manage to "nail the part" (probably also due to the muddled and huddled screenplay), and he might like the chance to improve. BTW, a German Bond forum posted back earlier this year (before Boyle and Hodge officially came on board), that the title would be SHATTERHAND. As the people there did not mention the source, they got it from, they presumably found that on the internet. At the time I did not give that much on the rumour, but maybe there was some truth in this. Or maybe not. The same forum did mention, that B25 might also see the return of Gregg Beam. Again, they did not mention the source for this, and I also did not believe this rumou. But if they bring back Spectre and Blofeld, it might make sense. Beam was on Quantum's pay-role, and he lost his job because of Bond, so he might now work for Spectre. But this is also just a rumour. Hopfully we might know more, come September or October.
Thanks.
And Craig then is "Danny Boy"? Or rather "Danny C"? No, that would be too close to "C". ;) :)
PLEASE. MAKE THIS! Seriously...that is my dream for Bond 25. Well done sir!
Sure, but no Hardy, please.