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  • KronsteenKronsteen Stockholm
    edited August 2018 Posts: 783
    DrShatterhand wrote: »
    All this hysteria over Bond dying in 25 is a bit OTT me thinks. Obviously EON wouldn't sanction seeing their golden goose being well and truly cooked in this way.

    No doubt this would've have been an ambiguous interpretation, making it easier to transition to the new actor in 26. I've thought for a while that the change to a new actor from Craig will be one of the more difficult ones to pull off due to the way his interpretation has been self-contained with a clear passage of time from fresh faced new boy to grizzled veteran.

    As the YOLT novel has been rumoured to be the main inspiration for the new film, I would imagine it would be an ending very similar to that, so something like:

    - Bond defeats baddie in cliff top castle
    - Castle explodes
    - Bond presumed dead
    - Solemn ceremony aboard Royal Navy vessel, Union Jack draped empty coffin dropped overboard
    - End titles
    - Post credit scene - shot of empty beach, waves lapping at sand, union jack washed ashore. Pan to still white hand, twitches. Cuts to black.

    Bond 26
    - opens with - aboard Royal navy ship. Officer looking through binoculars to small island. Sees well-built man exit treetop den with pacific island lovely. "I think we've found him Sir". Cue Tom Hardy...

    That is exactly how I envision the ending of Bond 25 as well! Not necessarily a post-credit scene, but a scene where you see that Bond is alive.

    But in Bond 26 I'd like it to begin like the TMWTGG novel, with a returning Bond trying to kill M. That would be a hell of a start for a new actor!
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
    edited August 2018 Posts: 2,044
    Kronsteen wrote: »
    DrShatterhand wrote: »
    All this hysteria over Bond dying in 25 is a bit OTT me thinks. Obviously EON wouldn't sanction seeing their golden goose being well and truly cooked in this way.

    No doubt this would've have been an ambiguous interpretation, making it easier to transition to the new actor in 26. I've thought for a while that the change to a new actor from Craig will be one of the more difficult ones to pull off due to the way his interpretation has been self-contained with a clear passage of time from fresh faced new boy to grizzled veteran.

    As the YOLT novel has been rumoured to be the main inspiration for the new film, I would imagine it would be an ending very similar to that, so something like:

    - Bond defeats baddie in cliff top castle
    - Castle explodes
    - Bond presumed dead
    - Solemn ceremony aboard Royal Navy vessel, Union Jack draped empty coffin dropped overboard
    - End titles
    - Post credit scene - shot of empty beach, waves lapping at sand, union jack washed ashore. Pan to still white hand, twitches. Cuts to black.

    Bond 26
    - opens with - aboard Royal navy ship. Officer looking through binoculars to small island. Sees well-built man exit treetop den with pacific island lovely. "I think we've found him Sir". Cue Tom Hardy...

    That is exactly how I envision the ending of Bond 25 as well! Not necessarily a post-credit scene, but a scene where you see that Bond is alive.

    But in Bond 26 I'd like it to begin like the TMWTGG novel, with a returning Bond trying to kill M. That would be a hell of a start for a new actor!

    Yes, yes YES! @Kronsteen
  • DrShatterhandDrShatterhand Garden of Death, near Belfast
    edited August 2018 Posts: 805
    SonofSean wrote: »

    PLEASE. MAKE THIS! Seriously...that is my dream for Bond 25. Well done sir!

    Why, thank you, Sean Jr. Actually, I would tweak the Bond 26 opening slightly: the first navy guy looks though the binoculars, says think we've found him Sir, passes binoculars to officer who looks through, sees Bond with the Pacific island lovely, who says "that's definitely our man..."
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
    Posts: 2,537
    Bentley007 wrote: »
    Has anyone contacted Baz about a potential update? His stories are usually dropped on Thursday evening.

    I did last week, but got no reply :(
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
    Posts: 4,583
    MrBond wrote: »
    Kronsteen wrote: »
    DrShatterhand wrote: »
    All this hysteria over Bond dying in 25 is a bit OTT me thinks. Obviously EON wouldn't sanction seeing their golden goose being well and truly cooked in this way.

    No doubt this would've have been an ambiguous interpretation, making it easier to transition to the new actor in 26. I've thought for a while that the change to a new actor from Craig will be one of the more difficult ones to pull off due to the way his interpretation has been self-contained with a clear passage of time from fresh faced new boy to grizzled veteran.

    As the YOLT novel has been rumoured to be the main inspiration for the new film, I would imagine it would be an ending very similar to that, so something like:

    - Bond defeats baddie in cliff top castle
    - Castle explodes
    - Bond presumed dead
    - Solemn ceremony aboard Royal Navy vessel, Union Jack draped empty coffin dropped overboard
    - End titles
    - Post credit scene - shot of empty beach, waves lapping at sand, union jack washed ashore. Pan to still white hand, twitches. Cuts to black.

    Bond 26
    - opens with - aboard Royal navy ship. Officer looking through binoculars to small island. Sees well-built man exit treetop den with pacific island lovely. "I think we've found him Sir". Cue Tom Hardy...

    That is exactly how I envision the ending of Bond 25 as well! Not necessarily a post-credit scene, but a scene where you see that Bond is alive.

    But in Bond 26 I'd like it to begin like the TMWTGG novel, with a returning Bond trying to kill M. That would be a hell of a start for a new actor!

    Yes, yes YES! @Kronsteen

    That would make sense and great faithfulness to the Fleming novels.

    However since EON doesn't want to make sense, we'll never see it
  • KronsteenKronsteen Stockholm
    edited August 2018 Posts: 783
    Last_Rat_Standing wrote: »

    That would make sense and great faithfulness to the Fleming novels.

    However since EON doesn't want to make sense, we'll never see it

    It's too good an opportunity to miss right now, so fingers crossed! But I'm doubtful as well. Babs always say "Always go back to Fleming". I wish they'd follow that motto more often. They already missed the obvious Property of a Lady after Casino Royale, so please take the chance now EON!
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,216
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Bentley007 wrote: »
    Has anyone contacted Baz about a potential update? His stories are usually dropped on Thursday evening.

    I did last week, but got no reply :(

    Baz is on leave at the moment, I believe.
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    Posts: 4,619
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Bentley007 wrote: »
    Has anyone contacted Baz about a potential update? His stories are usually dropped on Thursday evening.

    I did last week, but got no reply :(
    I wrote Michal G Wilson a few months ago, he hasn't replied yet. He probably got a new email address after the Sony leaks... :))
  • Goldeneye0094Goldeneye0094 Conyers, GA
    Posts: 464
    Well everyone it's Thursday once again any chance baz might give us a scoop tonight?
  • Pierce2DanielPierce2Daniel
    Posts: 4,408
    Goldeneye0094 wrote: »
    Well everyone it's Thursday once again any chance baz might give us a scoop tonight?

    I have it on fairly good authority that Mike Fleming from Deadline and Baz (perhaps not to the same extent as Fleming) get most of their info directly from Eon.

    I think whatever gets 'leaked' to them is done deliberately to put information out. Once word gets out, Eon use them as a news outlet to either clarify or rectify stories gettign spread.

    The Sony leaks confirmed just how much studios liaise and work with apparent 'scoopers'.
  • DrShatterhandDrShatterhand Garden of Death, near Belfast
    Posts: 805
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    Kronsteen wrote: »
    That is exactly how I envision the ending of Bond 25 as well! Not necessarily a post-credit scene, but a scene where you see that Bond is alive.

    But in Bond 26 I'd like it to begin like the TMWTGG novel, with a returning Bond trying to kill M. That would be a hell of a start for a new actor!

    That could be a good way to go too for 26. Perhaps Spectre could be the ones who find Bond on the island and then use him up to either kill M (or break out Blofeld), before he comes to his senses and goes after them.

  • SkyfallCraigSkyfallCraig Rome, Italy
    Posts: 630
    Strange. Nothing on twitter and fb at 6 or 7pm today
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    Posts: 17,753
    SkyfallCraig wrote: »
    Strange. Nothing on twitter and fb at 6 or 7pm today

    What was expected to be published?
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    SkyfallCraig wrote: »
    Strange. Nothing on twitter and fb at 6 or 7pm today

    What was expected to be published?

    Someone convinced themselves that Baz Bingoboom would give us some info today.
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    Posts: 3,126
    Anything from Baz on all this bond 25 uncertainty
  • SkyfallCraigSkyfallCraig Rome, Italy
    Posts: 630
    What?
    No, baz and the official 007 accounts have nothing in common. It's strange because usually every day at 6 or 7 pm 007 accounts publish something. today the didn't
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    edited August 2018 Posts: 17,753
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    SkyfallCraig wrote: »
    Strange. Nothing on twitter and fb at 6 or 7pm today

    What was expected to be published?

    Someone convinced themselves that Baz Bingoboom would give us some info today.

    Oh, I see. I guess the guy will share something when he has something to report.

    I guess the website stuff was just maintenance or something similar, too?
    SkyfallCraig wrote: »
    What?
    No, baz and the official 007 accounts have nothing in common. It's strange because usually every day at 6 or 7 pm 007 accounts publish something. today the didn't

    Nothing to publish, perhaps?
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    SkyfallCraig wrote: »
    Strange. Nothing on twitter and fb at 6 or 7pm today

    What was expected to be published?

    Someone convinced themselves that Baz Bingoboom would give us some info today.

    Ha ha.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
    Posts: 2,537
    'The White Crow' directed by and featuring Ralph Fiennes will be screening at the Telluride Film Festival (31 Aug. 2018 – 3 Sep. 2018) and at the London Film Festival (10 – 21 Oct. 2018).

    Yann Demange's new film 'White Boy Rick' is also screening at Telluride.

    Given the current state of things, if Ralph and Yann do press, it seems pretty certain at least one of them will get asked about Bond 25.
  • ringfire211ringfire211
    Posts: 654
    fanbond123 wrote: »
    For Your Eyes Only features a stuntman driving a motorbike down a bob sleigh. Not only is that insanely dangerous, if you ride off the side or hit the side you can be killed instantly or suffer horrendous injury, it's comparable to the danger of hanging to the underside of a moving vehicle in Raiders.

    Shardlake,

    To say
    FYEO is amatuer hour in comparrison,
    seems a bit insulting to everyone involved on that film, but hey, we all have our opinions! And anyway, FYEO had one of the most iconic scenes in the franchise - Bond eliminating Loque. That entire scene is a classic. The gun battle in the warehouse, the explosion, Bond chasing Loque, Bond aiming, firing his gun, the car swerving to the edge of the cliff type edge, Bond kicking the car.

    Hardly amateur hour film making.
    This!! Thank you!

    Either people totally forget about the crazy stunts in FYEO (some of the best in the series) or purposely choose to ignore them just because they’re in a John Glen film, but FYEO is one heck of a ride! Also the Citroen chase is one of my favorites in the series. Expertly shot and executed (great driving of all cars involved there courtesy of Remy Julienne’s crack team) and with a superb Bill Conti score to back it all up. Let’s not forget that FYEO has a very engaging Cold War story to boot, with a great twist involving Kristatos and Columbo. The iconic scene with Locque of course speaks volumes as well. It’s a film that gets better and better for me with each viewing. I’m also a huge fan of the Conti score and feel that it adds a lot to the mood of the film. It was a great way to usher in the 80s Bond! The track “Submarine” is one of my favorite renditions of the Bond theme.

    Regarding the aforementioned motorcycle on a bobsled run I wholly concur - drag me underneath a Raiders truck anyday (and twice on Sunday) before I’d ever let anyone launch me on a motorcycle full speed down a bob sled run! That’s just insane!! I hope folks do realize that professional bob sledders have been killed on these runs. Now imagine what can happen to a guy on a motorcycle that’s trapped inside this run and barreling down full steam. Hello?? I dare say even Tom Cruise wouldn’t touch that one.
  • LeChiffreLeChiffre
    Posts: 1,548
    I think Ken Loach should direct. At least he'd shake up the political angle a bit!
  • LeChiffreLeChiffre
    Posts: 1,548
    Oh and let's make Bond 25 a nice entry for Tom Hardy to follow.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    edited August 2018 Posts: 8,216
    Again - for those who didn't see my comment above - Baz is on leave for the moment apparently so there will be nothing from him until he's back.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    Birdleson wrote: »
    Who is Baz?
    Baz Bamigboye of the Daily Mail, who has an extremely reliable track record when it comes to Bond scoops.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    Birdleson wrote: »
    Who is Baz?

    barry-bethal.jpg
  • BondAficionadoBondAficionado Former IMDBer
    edited August 2018 Posts: 1,889
    FWIW the Comingsoon site has B25 dated for 31 December 2020. My guess is that the page editors simply needed a placeholder date after deciding for themselves that B25 is being delayed. Sigh.

    Other reasons for not taking it seriously:

    - No (official) announcement
    - No prior leaks through dependable sources
    - 31st is a Thursday and not a Friday
    - It's an irregular date for a film to be released
    - No other databases are using this information

    So yeah, B25 should still be on track.... for now.

    http://www.comingsoon.net/movie/untitled-bond-25-2020
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,466
    Just a placeholder. Not worried until the official delay announcement comes. The 12/31 placeholder happens a lot. I doubt they know for certain it got delayed until 2020.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    Yes, it's probably a placeholder. They wouldn't release on the 31st anyway.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    Posts: 12,480
    Come here for the Bond. Stay for the Raiders vs. FYEO competition, the musings about Baz (He's on holiday? How is that allowed?!!), and fans deciding how to best kill Bond off. At least this makes for good breakfast reading. ;)
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    Posts: 17,753
    4EverBonded wrote: »
    Come here for the Bond. Stay for the Raiders vs. FYEO competition, the musings about Baz (He's on holiday? How is that allowed?!!), and fans deciding how to best kill Bond off. At least this makes for good breakfast reading. ;)

    This thread is incredible sometimes. Or, most of the time.
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