No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • mybudgetbondmybudgetbond The World
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    Well there is still some great Fleming they could adapt. Even scenes or basic plotlines.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited September 2018 Posts: 23,883
    Getafix wrote: »
    Danny Boyle hints reason behind him quitting as Bond director was because he was 'hampered' by being such a 007 fan
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6127899/Danny-Boyle-hints-pulled-directing-25th-Bond-movie-big-fan.html

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    It seems like an odd excuse but Boyle seems to be playing the diplomat. Though this interview was conducted days before Boyle exited. But it does hint at his reservation.

    Could allude to all sorts of things I suppose, such as Boyle not wanting to kill off Bond.

    It's worrying really, as it suggests EON are planning on taking more liberties with the literary character than they have done already. Perhaps they haven't learnt their lessons from SP and brothergate after all.
    It's a vague comment and he is being diplomatic as you write. It does suggest however that what is being contemplated would perhaps disappoint fans of the novels or general 'aficionados'. To what end and for what purpose? Box office glory? Shock value? We shall see, if the concept survives. Hopefully it isn't something integral to the character and his behaviour.
    doubleoego wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    If EON is attempting to kill off Bond then I hope MGM puts the kibosh on it. It's a moronic idea.
    +1

    +2
    +3. Beyond idiotic, especially if it's there to tie off some actor's tenure.
  • edited September 2018 Posts: 5,767
    Why can't EON, Craig, Boyle and Hodge behave like adults just for a minute, sit down for a talk and smooth out the differences between them and then continue where they left off 2-3 weeks ago? You know, for the fans?
    Aren´t you the last person on the planet who should talk about behaving like adults?



    RC7 wrote: »
    ‘Doing it for the fans’, is the same as ‘negotiating with terrorists’. No deals.
    Hear! Hear!
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    Let's mothball the series until we get fresh owners of the franchise who have a clear idea of what they wanted out of a Bond movie.
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    Murdock wrote: »
    Days free of Nolan directing assumptions. ( 0 )

    Hahaha! :))
    We seem to forget that the Nolan discussion is related to Bond 26, not Bond 25. I think we can safely say Nolan won't do Bond 25, and that other candidates, like Demange etc., are more worthy a discussion in this thread(?)
  • edited September 2018 Posts: 4,619
    The 'doing it for the fans' arguments is obsolete as fans do not think with a collective mind and tastes differ.
    I don't think that applies to what I wrote, since the vast majority of Bond fans would rejoice if EON announced the return of Boyle and Hodge tomorrow. (Please correct me if I'm wrong.)
    bondjames wrote: »
    It's a vague comment and he is being diplomatic as you write. It does suggest however that what is being contemplated would perhaps disappoint fans of the novels or general 'aficionados'. To what end and for what purpose? Box office glory? Shock value? We shall see, if the concept survives. Hopefully it isn't something integral to the character and his behaviour.
    What's very interesting is that the picture that's starting to emerge is that on one hand Boyle + Hodge had a "movie gold" idea that EON liked, and on the other hand EON had a shocking idea Boyle disliked. If they end up incorporating both of these ideas into BOND 25, we might end up with a pretty interesting movie.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    The 'doing it for the fans' arguments is obsolete as fans do not think with a collective mind and tastes differ.
    I don't think that applies to what I wrote, since the vast majority of Bond fans would rejoice if EON announced the return of Boyle and Hodge tomorrow. (Please correct me if I'm wrong.)
    You're not wrong, at least as far as I'm concerned. I would prefer them to patch things up and get on with it, but I doubt this is possible for whatever reason.

    Perhaps the announcement should have read "irreconcilable differences" rather than the more typical "creative differences" ;)
  • edited September 2018 Posts: 19,339
    The 'doing it for the fans' arguments is obsolete as fans do not think with a collective mind and tastes differ.
    I don't think that applies to what I wrote, since the vast majority of Bond fans would rejoice if EON announced the return of Boyle and Hodge tomorrow. (Please correct me if I'm wrong.)

    No,i would certainly welcome them back,i'm with you on that,PP.
    bondjames wrote: »
    It's a vague comment and he is being diplomatic as you write. It does suggest however that what is being contemplated would perhaps disappoint fans of the novels or general 'aficionados'. To what end and for what purpose? Box office glory? Shock value? We shall see, if the concept survives. Hopefully it isn't something integral to the character and his behaviour.
    What's very interesting is that the picture that's starting to emerge is that on one hand Boyle + Hodge had a "movie gold" idea that EON liked, and on the other hand EON had a shocking idea Boyle disliked. If they end up incorporating both of these ideas into BOND 25, we might end up with a pretty interesting movie.[/quote]

    As long as it didn't involve the frankly preposterous idea of Bond dying.
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    The 'doing it for the fans' arguments is obsolete as fans do not think with a collective mind and tastes differ.
    I don't think that applies to what I wrote, since the vast majority of Bond fans would rejoice if EON announced the return of Boyle and Hodge tomorrow. (Please correct me if I'm wrong.)
    I don´t like the term "wrong", it has such a negative connotation. But I dare say the majority of Bond fans have not the slightest clue that Boyle was involved in any way with the Bond franchise. Let alone public knowledge of who Hodge is at all.

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    boldfinger wrote: »
    The 'doing it for the fans' arguments is obsolete as fans do not think with a collective mind and tastes differ.
    I don't think that applies to what I wrote, since the vast majority of Bond fans would rejoice if EON announced the return of Boyle and Hodge tomorrow. (Please correct me if I'm wrong.)
    I don´t like the term "wrong", it has such a negative connotation. But I dare say the majority of Bond fans have not the slightest clue that Boyle was involved in any way with the Bond franchise. Let alone public knowledge of who Hodge is at all.

    We had no real idea of what Boyle was going to do or whether or not we would appreciate it, so who knows if it would be better for him to come back.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    matt_u wrote: »
    In fact 2/3 of all Bond movies are mediocre playful fun entries. Almost every Roger movie and Pierce movie. Every Bond fan has a favorite actor and a personal poll but let's face the current state of things: you can blame EoN for whatever you want but with the last 2 (GREAT) outings they made 2 billions. They're hardly killing the franchise. I'm not a fan of the Moore/Dalton/Brosnan era but loving the character I always try to watch those movies with different eyes, more accommodating eyes.

    That's why I will never understand why so many "fans" are still here like broken records complaining about SP... "SP is a fiasco"; "SP is a mess"; "I hate SP bland cinematography"; "worst 007 ever"; "SP ruined my life" etc etc. Okay, we got it. I probably saw a different movie. Can we please move on? Because this is frankly extremely annoying. Why don't you make a topic about that, where you can all complain together?
    Daniel Craig is 4/4 for me. An unusually great time to be a Bond fan, even with 3-4 years between films.

    TOTALLY AGREE. Thanks EoN we had the Craig era! Now let's just hope they'll deliver again with 25. Even if a potential delay would be REALLY annoying I remain hopeful.

    @matt_u : first of all, welcome to the site.

    Everything you have written here is quite true. I am a bigger fan of SF than SP, and that film, too, has been raked over hot coals by members. Of course, everyone is free to hold their opinions of any Bond film. But the #1 complaint about SF is its implausible plot. That's always the biggest head scratcher for me.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    bondjames wrote: »

    Following his career decisions is like being at a bloody theme park.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    So is Craig supposed to film between September and December or does this imply Craig knows the movie will inevitably be delayed?
  • edited September 2018 Posts: 19,339
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »

    Following his career decisions is like being at a bloody theme park.

    I cant see that slowing B25 down,as its already scripted and ready to go after the festival bids.

    But I thought he would be committed to Bond and not fart-arsing around on other projects.
    If you want to be co-producer then you need to be fully focused on the film you are meant to be bloody producing.

  • Goldeneye0094Goldeneye0094 Conyers, GA
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    Ok can craig squeeze in both filming bond 25 and this film at the same time? This is getting quite worrisome
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    This film could mean a month or two of filming for Craig. No need to worry.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I'm curious about what look and physique he will adopt for this outing. With filming so close to the next Bond, he will have a busy schedule, and will perhaps have a similar look or body.

    I'm surprised he took this on frankly, especially now with B25 needing full focus.

    Interesting times indeed.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 4,604
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »

    Following his career decisions is like being at a bloody theme park.

    I cant see that slowing B25 down,as its already scripted and ready to go after the festival bids.

    But I thought he would be committed to Bond and not fart-arsing around on other projects.
    If you want to be co-producer then you need to be fully focused on the film you are meant to be bloody producing.

    Not to mention, a dad to a newborn.

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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »

    Following his career decisions is like being at a bloody theme park.

    I cant see that slowing B25 down,as its already scripted and ready to go after the festival bids.

    But I thought he would be committed to Bond and not fart-arsing around on other projects.
    If you want to be co-producer then you need to be fully focused on the film you are meant to be bloody producing.

    Not to mention, a dad to a newborn.

    Exactly,that as well !!
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Remember how tired he kept saying he was after SP? Seems strange to take on work so close to another Bond when he is 4 years older and with a new child. Very strange.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited September 2018 Posts: 23,883
    Has any actor on a Bond film previously starred in another film this close to a prospective filming date? They don't normally, do they?

    I was just having a bit of a laugh at the title of this film. For a threatened wrist slasher, I can just see folks having a bit of fun with it in the media.
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    Remember how tired he kept saying he was after SP? Seems strange to take on work so close to another Bond when he is 4 years older and with a new child. Very strange.

    I don't think his enthusiasm for the role is exactly peaking,do you ?

    I can see him playing his last Bond on auto-pilot as he did in SP,meanwhile getting his final massive pay-check for his wife and kid.
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    Hopefully not indicative of a delay....
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    He obv got the part cos TGWTDT was so successful. I’m anticipating another box office dud
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Has any actor on a Bond film previously starred in another film this close to a prospective filming date? They don't normally, do they?

    FRWL and GF were released 11 months apart, and Connery managed to squeeze in both Woman Of Straw and Marnie in between.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Has any actor on a Bond film previously starred in another film this close to a prospective filming date? They don't normally, do they?

    FRWL and GF were released 11 months apart, and Connery managed to squeeze in both Woman Of Straw and Marnie in between.
    That's true. Roger Moore fit Gold in between LALD & TMWTGG as well.

    I wonder what suddenly drew him to this now though? It's not like he's been especially prolific over the past 6 odd years. A detective as well. That's closer to Bond than other parts he could have gone for.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
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    Thomas Crown Affair is also 1999 movie. But my feeling is that movie helps Twine earlier and other way around. Both movies are also Mgm movies.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    Remember how tired he kept saying he was after SP? Seems strange to take on work so close to another Bond when he is 4 years older and with a new child. Very strange.

    I don't think his enthusiasm for the role is exactly peaking,do you ?

    I can see him playing his last Bond on auto-pilot as he did in SP,meanwhile getting his final massive pay-check for his wife and kid.

    Indeed Bazza.

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