No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • Posts: 11,425
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »

    He looks like a wrinkly blimp

    There's been some recent pictures of Pierce Brosnan looking lean and mean at the 25 anniversary of MRS DOUBTFIRE reunion.
    Due to this lack of news, we get another delay in which Craig steps down and Brosnan steps back in for his 5th outing as 007. B25 reveals the Craig era was a nightmare as Brosnan wakes up suddenly older. The dream sequence would be a Danny Kleinman titles masterpiece which incorporates scenes from the Craig era and brother gate is now washed from existence.
    Judi Dench returns as M.

    Every fiber of my being wants this!

    This but with Datlon
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    BT3366 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    boldfinger wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    echo wrote: »
    Not sure about that, at all. Mendes was not an action-oriented director and he made SP as big as they come.

    I appreciate the secrecy that has enveloped the film so far under Fukunaga's tenure.

    Exactly. Mendes was a totally leftfield choice for Bond. And as you say had no action credentials - which frankly showed.

    Cary is not being brought on board to direct a small movie - plus he has shown he can direct very good action. Genuine action that is not just explosions and car crashes but actually contributes to the narrative and character development.

    F. Scott Fitzgerald once said "action is character" and the early Bond films really took that to heart. We need to go back to that approach where the action is not just bolted on for the sake of a tedious set piece explosion, but is integral to the plot and telling us who Bond is.

    1. Mendes directed Jarhead (war drama) and Road to Perdition (crime drama) both had plenty of action.
    I´m wondering what your Definition of Action is. Or if you watched those two films at all.

    I watched both films and have, of course, watched all Bond films.

    I don't think that Bond has ever fit in with the traditional idea of an action film, anyway. QoS is the outlier, in this regard, and its why late great Roger Ebert said this:

    "OK, I'll say it. Never again. Don't ever let this happen again to James Bond. "Quantum of Solace" is his 22nd film and he will survive it, but for the 23rd it is necessary to go back to the drawing board and redesign from the ground up. Please understand: James Bond is not an action hero! He is too good for that. He is an attitude. Violence for him is an annoyance. He exists for the foreplay and the cigarette. "

    I agree to an extenet (though I actually liked QoS). If I want action for the sake of action, I have a lot of choices for that. Bond is different. I think Mendes did just fine in the action sequences he directed EXCEPT for the slow-moving, suspense-deprived car chase in SP.

    But I don't know how anyone could watch the PTS in both SF and SP, the Bond-Patrice Shanghai fight, and the Bond-Hinx train fight and believe Mendes can't direct an action sequence.

    Ebert, of course, is spot on.

    The SF PTS is better than anything in its predecessor.

    The SF PTS is vastly overrated. What was really original or stood out in it aside from Bond being shot? A bunch of shooting, destruction, tracking bond, motorcycle stunts that were better done in TND and the train thing.

    Despite the complaints about the shaky cam and editing in the QoS PTS, it at least gives off the frantic feel of being caught in such a car chase and ends with a perfect Bond line.

    The following chase and the later brutal fight with Slate are also standout scenes and together are better than anything SF offers in my view.

    I'd agree but from what I've read on here previously there's a lot of love for the SF PTS - which for me is one of the worst most plodding action sequences in recent Bond history- and there's a lot of competition.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    edited November 2018 Posts: 2,541
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    The discussion regarding suits is amusing. In this day and age, sadly few people seems to know what a suit actually is. Put on a tweed sports jacket with a tie and people will call that a suit. Put on a navy blazer over business casual attire ( or jeans) and people think that's a suit.


    Bond wears well tailored suits. Period. If he happens to be sporting his best Saville Row gray Mohair suit and a situation occurs that propels him into action, he's not going to stop to put on some sneakers or take off his jacket.

    I do think there are a few films in which more casual attire should have appeared, though. The caviar factory scene in TWINE for instance could have skipped the suit. Had it been Roger, I picture him wearing something similar to the Kristatos warehouse raid in FYEO or the leather blouson in AVTAK.


    Very well said, remember goldfinger opening bond changing from casual to white Tux.
  • Glad to hear that the new director will be continuing Casino Royale's character arc!
  • edited November 2018 Posts: 11,425
    Don't have an issue with Bond wearing a suit in an action context but Craig's suits in SF looked dreadful - they just didn't seem to have been fitted for those scenes.

    Maybe Craig is not best suited to a suit? He often looks like a bodyguard/bouncer esp with his overly cropped hair and pumped physique. I'm sure it could have been managed so he looked more suave and Bondian but they have often got it wrong unfortunately. I know it's supposedly 'correct' but the short trouser legs that reveal too much ankle and sock just look wrong to me. Also the fabrics seem a bit too rigid. You don't get the sense the clothes have been made for actions sequences - they look more off the peg.

    I guess his height probably doesnt help. A taller actor would probably look better in a tailored suit -
    Simple matter of proportions. He carries the suits well in stills but less so on screen. He's better suited to casual wear. Or Maybe he just needs to go to Savile Row.

    And maybe Tom Ford should stick to directing movies?! ;)
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    A suit isn't the problem. Anyone can look good in it as long as it's tailored well. It's just that Craig's measurements in SF and SP are godawful, and they're made on his own request. He likes them very tight, apparently.

    Whereas compare his suits in QoS to that of the later ones, you'll find that the 2008 equivalent of his tailoring is terrific. Hell, when Bond arrived in La Paz, it screamed cool right to my face. They should retain the measurements taken during QoS, because the SF and SP suits look laughably abysmal.
  • Posts: 11,425
    He might have put a bit of weight on since 2008
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    edited November 2018 Posts: 2,541
    A suit isn't the problem. Anyone can look good in it as long as it's tailored well. It's just that Craig's measurements in SF and SP are godawful, and they're made on his own request. He likes them very tight, apparently.

    Whereas compare his suits in QoS to that of the later ones, you'll find that the 2008 equivalent of his tailoring is terrific. Hell, when Bond arrived in La Paz, it screamed cool right to my face. They should retain the measurements taken during QoS, because the SF and SP suits look laughably abysmal.

    Agreed in the cheap motel scene with fields with sunglasses one of the best fitted suits of Craig era.
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    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    Cool pics. Didn´t know Herbie Hancock is Chief of the fire Brigade.

  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,755
    Hopefully Craig is looking the way he is in these photos for his character in Knives Out. He's not always going to look like James Bond. I just hope he'll have enough time to get in adequate shape before production begins.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »

    He looks like a wrinkly blimp

    He doesn’t look very blimpish to me.

    Agreed. Hard-boiled. Not blimpish.

    I mean, do we think he’s had any time to work out in preparation for Bond while shooting Knives Out? I’m not sure when filming ends, but he’ll realistically have January & February to hit the gym & that’s it.

    Filming finishes mid-December. Half of Hollywood is in that film, surely he's not in nearly as many scenes as a Bond film.
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    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    Hopefully Craig is looking the way he is in these photos for his character in Knives Out. He's not always going to look like James Bond. I just hope he'll have enough time to get in adequate shape before production begins.

    Considering these are photos of him literally filming for that role I'd imagine that's the case.

    (Apologies, I don't mean to direct the tone of that response entirely at you. But, I'm just rather sick of this every time there's a new photo of the man.)

    I don't look like my 9am office-dressed self when it's 6am and I'm headed to the gym or when it's 11pm and I'm getting off an airplane from another continent, either.

    And in this case, it's just extra comical. He's supposed to be playing some jaded, hard-boiled detective who's probably just this side of depression and drinks like a fool. These photos are Daniel Craig actually, literally, in costume for that role.

    It's like if they were making a Tintin sequel right now and released this as a teaser image...

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    ...half the internet would say "Oh heavens, he looks awful! Is James Bond going to be a CGI character in the next film?" and the other half would say, "No. Wrong. A bearded and long-haired Bond? What does Craig think he is, Lazenby at the OHMSS premiere?"

    I kid, I kid.

    But seriously. We know what he's going to look like.

    He's going to look like James Bond.

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  • AgentM72 wrote: »
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    He's going to look like James Bond.

    Well you know what they say, there's a first time for everything.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    I'll take suits over casualwear any day of the week. It's a gentleman's uniform. And Bond is a gentleman.

    Have to agree here. Bond for the most part should always be looking on point in a suave suit. Just not in really tight suits. Class and panache. That's how James Bond should be presented.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    BT3366 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    boldfinger wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    echo wrote: »
    Not sure about that, at all. Mendes was not an action-oriented director and he made SP as big as they come.

    I appreciate the secrecy that has enveloped the film so far under Fukunaga's tenure.

    Exactly. Mendes was a totally leftfield choice for Bond. And as you say had no action credentials - which frankly showed.

    Cary is not being brought on board to direct a small movie - plus he has shown he can direct very good action. Genuine action that is not just explosions and car crashes but actually contributes to the narrative and character development.

    F. Scott Fitzgerald once said "action is character" and the early Bond films really took that to heart. We need to go back to that approach where the action is not just bolted on for the sake of a tedious set piece explosion, but is integral to the plot and telling us who Bond is.

    1. Mendes directed Jarhead (war drama) and Road to Perdition (crime drama) both had plenty of action.
    I´m wondering what your Definition of Action is. Or if you watched those two films at all.

    I watched both films and have, of course, watched all Bond films.

    I don't think that Bond has ever fit in with the traditional idea of an action film, anyway. QoS is the outlier, in this regard, and its why late great Roger Ebert said this:

    "OK, I'll say it. Never again. Don't ever let this happen again to James Bond. "Quantum of Solace" is his 22nd film and he will survive it, but for the 23rd it is necessary to go back to the drawing board and redesign from the ground up. Please understand: James Bond is not an action hero! He is too good for that. He is an attitude. Violence for him is an annoyance. He exists for the foreplay and the cigarette. "

    I agree to an extenet (though I actually liked QoS). If I want action for the sake of action, I have a lot of choices for that. Bond is different. I think Mendes did just fine in the action sequences he directed EXCEPT for the slow-moving, suspense-deprived car chase in SP.

    But I don't know how anyone could watch the PTS in both SF and SP, the Bond-Patrice Shanghai fight, and the Bond-Hinx train fight and believe Mendes can't direct an action sequence.

    Ebert, of course, is spot on.

    The SF PTS is better than anything in its predecessor.

    The SF PTS is vastly overrated. What was really original or stood out in it aside from Bond being shot? A bunch of shooting, destruction, tracking bond, motorcycle stunts that were better done in TND and the train thing.

    Despite the complaints about the shaky cam and editing in the QoS PTS, it at least gives off the frantic feel of being caught in such a car chase and ends with a perfect Bond line.

    The following chase and the later brutal fight with Slate are also standout scenes and together are better than anything SF offers in my view.

    Here here. Having seen QoS for the umpteenth time recently I've come to realise that it's not even the shakey can that's even an issue. It's the editing that's horrendous but still, the action is far and away superior to the action in SF and SP. Even Bond's fight with Greene is underrated imo.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    I'll take suits over casualwear any day of the week. It's a gentleman's uniform. And Bond is a gentleman.
    Have to agree here. Bond for the most part should always be looking on point in a suave suit. Just not in really tight suits. Class and panache. That's how James Bond should be presented.
    Yes, sir!
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    A suit isn't the problem. Anyone can look good in it as long as it's tailored well. It's just that Craig's measurements in SF and SP are godawful, and they're made on his own request. He likes them very tight, apparently.

    Whereas compare his suits in QoS to that of the later ones, you'll find that the 2008 equivalent of his tailoring is terrific. Hell, when Bond arrived in La Paz, it screamed cool right to my face. They should retain the measurements taken during QoS, because the SF and SP suits look laughably abysmal.

    Agreed in the cheap motel scene with fields with sunglasses one of the best fitted suits of Craig era.

    THE best.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    I have no problem at all with Bond wearing more casual clothes in appropriate scenes. I like a mixture during the film. Suits for every scene? Please, no. Craig's suits for Bond 25 ... well, I am hoping they are better tailored (meaning not so tight, whether Craig likes them that way or not). And haircut (yeah, might as well mention that, too) - just not as short as in Skyfall, please.

    PTS in Skyfall is still one of my favorites; lovely, so well done.

    I am all for a great PTS or other sequence) in Canada. Let's hope that comes about.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,755
    More pics of Craig have surfaced on Instagram. He is looking kind of chubby...
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    The last time Craig looked like Bond was in his August 2017 announcement , even that was pushing it
  • DrClatterhandDrClatterhand United Kingdom
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    Maybe chubby in Karen Carpenter's eyes. I don't see it at all. He looks fine in the Knives Out set photos.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,205
    I agree, at the moment he looks very full in the face; I'm sure he's training while shooting this film but a different look is called for so he may be intentionally keeping his weight up a bit. As soon he is done on the shoot he'll dial in a specific diet to get leaner, a matter of weeks can make a tremendous difference.
  • edited December 2018 Posts: 654
    I am all for a great PTS or other sequence in Canada. Let's hope that comes about.
    I am all for a great PTS or other sequence in Canada. Let's hope that comes aboot.

    There. Fixed it for ya. :) Eh?
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    More pics of Craig have surfaced on Instagram. He is looking kind of chubby...

    Do the filmmakers of KNIVES OUT want DC to look like 007 in their film? or a hard boiled private dic?

    DC will have 10 weeks to lean out for Bond.

    If we all knew about super-compensation training we would know that any one person could drop about 15 lbs of targeted fat in that time.

    And DC will have the best trainers and best nutrition.

    I think he looks great for a murder/mystery. But-

    He will be expected to look like James Bond in March.

    And he will.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,205
    peter wrote: »
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    More pics of Craig have surfaced on Instagram. He is looking kind of chubby...

    Do the filmmakers of KNIVES OUT want DC to look like 007 in their film? or a hard boiled private dic?

    DC will have 10 weeks to lean out for Bond.

    If we all knew about super-compensation training we would know that any one person could drop about 15 lbs of targeted fat in that time.

    And DC will have the best trainers and best nutrition.

    I think he looks great for a murder/mystery. But-

    He will be expected to look like James Bond in March.

    And he will.

    Spot on.

  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,755
    I hope you guys are right! I think I’m just very anxious. March is still a ways off.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,205
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    I hope you guys are right! I think I’m just very anxious. March is still a ways off.

    Trust me, you have nothing to worry about; in my daily life, as a personal trainer and as a competitor and model I’ve been involved in the field of health and fitness for over 30 years. By nature, Daniel Craig is a very lean individual; like many of us his weight may fluctuate for any number of reasons, including a role. Over the years it’s become very clear that he knows how to get in shape when needed. He puts in the time in the gym , trains with stunt coordinators, and dials in his diet to shed any excess body fat and create an athletic, fit physique.
    He’s got the genetics, the work ethic, and as Peter said, the resources to do it.
    The last thing anyone needs to worry obout is Daniel Craig not showing up in shape .

  • I don’t know, I’m ready for a bit of a change. I wouldn’t mind a DAF type out of shape Bond. Something different and unexpected, especially for Craig’s Bond.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    I hope you guys are right! I think I’m just very anxious. March is still a ways off.

    Not really. That’s just over three months away. It’ll be here before we know it.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Craig after the release of Casino Royale said he planned to stop working out. Because he didn't want to be remembered as the "Fit Bond".

    But I don't think that time has come.
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