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  • vzokvzok
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    TR007 wrote: »
    Killing off Swann and having a revenge story is far too straightfor and predictable. I’m holding out hope that Babs, Dan and Cary will surprise us and go down a different route with the story.

    If it were Boyle, it might be kill off Bond and a revenge story for Swann.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    edited December 2018 Posts: 4,584
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    antovolk wrote: »
    Someone on Twitter suggested that ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD would actually be a pretty great, if meta, title...

    I would prefer that over Shatterhand

    Multi-word titles are much more fun, IMO.

    For the sake of it...here are the avg number of words in the titles for each Bond actor:

    SC: 2.50
    GL: 5.00 (obviously)
    RM: 3.71
    TD: 3.00
    PB: 3.00
    DC: 1.75
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    TR007 wrote: »
    Killing off Swann and having a revenge story is far too straightfor and predictable. I’m holding out hope that Babs, Dan and Cary will surprise us and go down a different route with the story.
    Two of these three were involved with the Harris is not MP and Waltz as foster brother story, so I wouldn't put much faith in them. Fukunaga, yes. He is the one breath of fresh air and hopefully he can make something worthwhile out of these used parts.
  • DrClatterhandDrClatterhand United Kingdom
    Posts: 349
    I'm really disappointed by this news. I wish we were looking at a soft reboot. She and Craig had zero chemistry. Imagine if Dan Stevens was coming up in a Nolan Bond. I hope I'm proven wrong.
  • writer5150writer5150
    Posts: 154
    I don't think they'll kill Swann off in the pre-credits sequence -- too predictable. But I expect by the half-way mark she'll be revealed as a fem-bot sent to kill Bond before he discovers he's in over his head regarding whatever plot they've got going.
  • DrClatterhandDrClatterhand United Kingdom
    Posts: 349
    Birdleson wrote: »
    As far as the Scooby term, I still feel it is an appropriate moniker; and yes, it is intentionally degrading. Is it enjoyable to use the phrase? Not at all, just tragically apt. They were awkward and shoe-horned into the last film. One of many low points. If the response is that big name actors need larger roles, I say stick with lesser known actors. The flow and storyline of a Bond film should never be subservient to a supporting actor's screen time.

    Very true!!! There's too much tinkering. There's a balance between overuse of tropes and being too/unrecognizably radical.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Birdleson wrote: »
    As far as the Scooby term, I still feel it is an appropriate moniker; and yes, it is intentionally degrading. Is it enjoyable to use the phrase? Not at all, just tragically apt. They were awkward and shoe-horned into the last film. One of many low points. If the response is that big name actors need larger roles, I say stick with lesser known actors. The flow and storyline of a Bond film should never be subservient to a supporting actor's screen time.
    +1
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,466
    I’m interested to see what’s going to happen to Swann’s character. The only thing I feel confident about is that by the film’s end, she and Bond won’t be together...

    If they do bring back Blofeld, which I think is likely, I hope they can actually use him well and have a great plot surrounding him. Initially I didn’t really want anyone back from SP except Craig and the MI6 regulars (but hopefully not Tanner), but I’m now open to the idea of picking up after it so long as they make it a good film. Seeing as Craig’s Bond era was always more closely connected and such, it shouldn’t bother me how direct a sequel B25 is as long as the film itself is good - hopefully superior to SP.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    MajorDSmythe wrote: »
    I, for one, am glad to see Fiennes, Wishaw & Harris being retained. If only they were the only ones from SP returning...

    Looking forward to seeing them all.
  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    Whishaw was much better in SP than SF. And dare I say that with less time in the field Harris's MP was less grating as well. Tanner is awful. Not a big fan of Fiennes's M but I also found him less annoying in SP than in SF. Overall then I'd say the Scoooby Gang are on an upward trajectory with Kinnears Tanner as the irredeemable Scrabby Doo of the gang.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Nobody wants to see Tanner again. At least not in this incarnation.
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    edited December 2018 Posts: 12,466
    I agree - I like all 3 in SF a lot, and Whishaw in both for sure (can’t really ask for a better modern Q, given Llewelyn is impossible to top). I’m going to be optimistic that Fukunaga can use them all more appropriately than they were in SP. The dumbest part was how they used Moneypenny, given how clear it was made at the end of SF she wanted a desk job instead of working in the field (granted she doesn’t move too much, but is still in on the action more than what one would expect). And it’s certainly been too long since M simply stayed behind the desk for the whole or almost the whole film (probably won’t happen here either, but hopefully at least better done than SP). Harris, Whishaw, and Fiennes are good actors who were well-cast for the roles, with just some questionable moves made about them in SP.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    Posts: 17,753
    Birdleson wrote: »
    I thought all three did a fine job in SF, and I even enjoyed Whishaw in SP (to an extent! Too much), nee cared for Kinear as Tanner. The question is do EON and Fukunaga have the nerves and the sense to limit those characters involvement in the face of bruised egos and hurt feelings.

    Dame Judi Dench only had limited screen time too – if not counting TWINE and SF. She's not any lesser an actress than the Scooby Gang, so why should they get more screen time?
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    edited December 2018 Posts: 2,541
    Birdleson wrote: »
    I thought all three did a fine job in SF, and I even enjoyed Whishaw in SP (to an extent! Too much), nee cared for Kinear as Tanner. The question is do EON and Fukunaga have the nerves and the sense to limit those characters involvement in the face of bruised egos and hurt feelings.

    CF said that there are things you will expect, if I were to guess he will keep it more traditional and keep M/ MP/ Q on desk than field and we might get a single scene with each of them which is good in imo. A lot of other Characters are returning from previous films like Swann/Felix. They will also have an opportunity to bring some new Characters as well to play with.
  • GetafixGetafix
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    Have they said Felix is back too?
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,466
    Unfortunately not yet. That’s the one big returning character left I most want to see. I’m hopeful for plenty of new characters as well though, maybe an Irma type character if we get Blofed back. Or other interesting villains and side characters.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    Posts: 17,753
    Birdleson wrote: »
    Exactly. I almost aded that myself. And John Cleese is no small potatoes.

    Indeed. Both are big names in the industry.
  • Ottofuse8Ottofuse8
    edited December 2018 Posts: 832
    Getafix wrote: »
    Whishaw was much better in SP than SF. And dare I say that with less time in the field Harris's MP was less grating as well. Tanner is awful. Not a big fan of Fiennes's M but I also found him less annoying in SP than in SF. Overall then I'd say the Scoooby Gang are on an upward trajectory with Kinnears Tanner as the irredeemable Scrabby Doo of the gang.

    Wishaw was excellent in both sf and sp- up until that awful 4th act.... Spectre’s ending was the worst of any bond film imho (not the film as a whole). Fiennes and Harris were far better in skyfall. Fiennes and Wishaw can do a bit more, but I honestly have no interest in Harris beyond basically the desk. Her involvement beyond that in sp felt extremely hamfisted. Well, I liked her coming to bond’s apartment and being a mole... but it should not have gone beyond the scene at bond’s apartment and the phone call (and not during a car chase). A large part of the excitement of a bond film is the introduction of a new cast of characters that bond meets on the mission. Don’t at all mind strong female characters (camille is a great example), but mp should mostly not go beyond the office. Skyfall should have been the single exception.
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
    Posts: 1,756
    Interesting news. I'm also one of the people who thought Lea kind of sucked with Craig, but with CF I think he'll be able to fix the sour tastes in our mouths from SP.

    If he can salvage a great ending to what was SP, it'll fix what SP tainted the series with.

    Seydeux had great Bond girl potential. I hope they don't kill her and have Bond grieve again.

    Then again, it's not really about the idea but the execution of it. I mean, we Bond fans have essentially been watching the same Bond films for 50 years (formula), yet we still eat it up every time because each film is told differently.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    edited December 2018 Posts: 2,541
    FoxRox wrote: »
    Unfortunately not yet. That’s the one big returning character left I most want to see. I’m hopeful for plenty of new characters as well though, maybe an Irma type character if we get Blofed back. Or other interesting villains and side characters.

    Jeffrey wright himself hinted more than once this year but we may have to wait for bazz to give us something before getting excited he is one of the most underrated Character of Craig era imo and we already have an Irma type of character which Cary will use it for advantage it's Lea as Swann, let's not forget who's daughter she is not only it would be a great twist but It will also throw out all the nonsense rumor of her dying.
  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    If Wright's Felix underrated? He seems to be one of the few universally loved characters from the Craig era. I don't think I've ever heard someone on here say they don't like him.
  • AgentM72AgentM72
    Posts: 831
    jake24 wrote: »
    Debbie McWilliams was also scouting actors from within that region a couple months back.

    Indeed. Do we know for certain if that was post-Fukunaga hiring, or for Boyle's version of the film?

  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    edited December 2018 Posts: 2,541
    I just don't why they didn't use him in SP if he was liked by many even after he was mentioned in a scene with Bellucci. I really liked him in CR/QOS
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
    Posts: 2,538
    ‘Bond 25’: Lea Seydoux Returning to Franchise
    https://variety.com/2018/film/news/bond-25-lea-seydoux-1203084117/

    Craig is currently shooting Rian Johnson’s thriller “Knives Out” and Fukunaga is still finishing the “Bond 25” script, but insiders say producers have already begun building out the film’s ensemble. Besides Seydoux, Eon is looking for two other actresses — one would play an MI6 agent that works with Bond and another a mystery women — as well as the Bond villain.

    According to insiders, Rami Malek was being eyed for the villain role, but his schedule on the last season of “Mr. Robot,” which shoots from March through July, makes it unlikely that he will be able to take the gig, even if Eon offered him the part.



  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    edited December 2018 Posts: 2,541
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    ‘Bond 25’: Lea Seydoux Returning to Franchise
    https://variety.com/2018/film/news/bond-25-lea-seydoux-1203084117/

    Craig is currently shooting Rian Johnson’s thriller “Knives Out” and Fukunaga is still finishing the “Bond 25” script, but insiders say producers have already begun building out the film’s ensemble. Besides Seydoux, Eon is looking for two other actresses — one would play an MI6 agent that works with Bond and another a mystery women — as well as the Bond villain.

    According to insiders, Rami Malek was being eyed for the villain role, but his schedule on the last season of “Mr. Robot,” which shoots from March through July, makes it unlikely that he will be able to take the gig, even if Eon offered him the part.



    I hope that female mi6 agent will play 00 agent wanted to see that for a long time.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 4,626
    Resurrection wrote: »
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    ‘Bond 25’: Lea Seydoux Returning to Franchise
    https://variety.com/2018/film/news/bond-25-lea-seydoux-1203084117/

    Craig is currently shooting Rian Johnson’s thriller “Knives Out” and Fukunaga is still finishing the “Bond 25” script, but insiders say producers have already begun building out the film’s ensemble. Besides Seydoux, Eon is looking for two other actresses — one would play an MI6 agent that works with Bond and another a mystery women — as well as the Bond villain.

    According to insiders, Rami Malek was being eyed for the villain role, but his schedule on the last season of “Mr. Robot,” which shoots from March through July, makes it unlikely that he will be able to take the gig, even if Eon offered him the part.



    I hope that female mi6 agent will play 00 agent wanted to see that for a long time.

    Me too, maybe a Devil May Care adaptation?
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Isn't this what that CashleyPersia guy said earlier this year?

    An MI6 agent that Bond mentors and another woman with personal ties to Bond?
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
    Posts: 2,538
    "one would play an MI6 agent that works with Bond"

    ... is CashleyPersia writing the script?
  • Risico007Risico007
    Posts: 9,846
    Come on Gala Brand

    What would be funny is if my idea from two years ago wound up being bond 25

  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited December 2018 Posts: 15,423
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    "one would play an MI6 agent that works with Bond"

    ... is CashleyPersia writing the script?

    No, he was this Reddit poster who made several reports on the development of B25 that we took with a grain of salt.
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