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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    " He's got you shooting at each other " :D
    Or the tabloids have. ;)
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited May 2016 Posts: 8,395
    dalton wrote: »
    Come on, if you've actually read my posts, you'd know my position has been consistent. Not being willing to accept every tabloid report as the truth is in no way a sign of throwing up "roadblocks".

    Thinly veiled, you say.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    Thunderpussy wrote: »
    " He's got you shooting at each other " :D

    Love this.
  • AlexanderWaverlyAlexanderWaverly
    edited May 2016 Posts: 2,115
    There was a brief exchange about whether Americans should be allowed to write James Bond movies. Here are all the Americans who've gotten some kind of writing credit:

    Richard Maibaum, 13 movies.
    Tom Mankiewicz, 3 movies (with credits, did uncredited work on Spy and Moonraker)
    Bruce Feirstein, 3 movies
    John Logan, 2 movies
    Michael France ("story by" credit in GoldenEye)
    Harold Jack Bloom ("additional story material" credit in You Only Live Twice)
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    I'm surprised Cumberbatch's name has been added to the list. He is one of the Brits of the moment.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Cumberbyatch can t be Bond.
  • DisneyBond007DisneyBond007 Welwyn Garden City
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    Just announced, i'm going to have a YouTube debate on Bond 25 and the franchise future. I'll be reported on my YouTube channel this July.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    A debate with whom?
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Cumberbatch has been fan-cast numerous times over the years but it won't happen and he doesn't need it.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    We don t need it, either. Let him have Dr Strange.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Benedict already has Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Strange; he doesn't need Bond. The former role's iconic nature alone is the equivalent of at least a hundred "good" roles.
  • SatoriousSatorious Brushing up on a little Danish
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    Interesting times. I think the "not be who you expect" comment is Mendes just having some fun and making media mischief. I'm not feeling sad he's not coming back. Whilst he directed a couple of the more visually appealing Bond films, his films were bloated and poorly paced. As for who plays Bond, just someone who has the vitality and hunger to want to play this role (rather than turn up for the paycheck). If Daniel still has that fire, then great. If not, I'd rather see someone else get the role (and it's probably time - 10 years or so in the role appears to be the general precedent).
  • GeneralGogolGeneralGogol
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    For those concerned with Craig's schedule, remember what he did in 2011. After a two-year hiatus, he filmed Cowboys & Aliens, Tintin, Dream House, and Girl with the Dragon Tattoo - two of those were damn long shoots, and Dream House had re-shoots as well a few weeks before release. And in December, he jumped straight into Skyfall. That's 5 big Hollywood productions filmed in less than 2 years. I don't see how Purity and a supporting role in a Soderbergh flick can prevent him from filming Bond 25 in 2018; Maybe he'll have time for the Dragon Tattoo sequel too if that creative team gets its act together.
  • DisneyBond007DisneyBond007 Welwyn Garden City
    edited May 2016 Posts: 100
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    A debate with whom?

    I mean a debate with all of you apparently. Anyway, again, it's my upcoming debate about Bond 25 and the updates on MGM's new distributor and others.

    You know what i mean my friend?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    If that quote is to be taken seriously, I'm curious as to what they might have in store that would be "totally unexpected."
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Maybe it's Daniel returning. I mean almost everybody's jumped ship on him at this point talking about who will replace him. Plot twist, It's Daniel coming back! :))
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    Murdock wrote: »
    Maybe it's Daniel returning. I mean almost everybody's jumped ship on him at this point talking about who will replace him. Plot twist, It's Daniel coming back! :))

    It seems we're the last rats standing on this issue, @Murdock. ;)
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Maybe it's Daniel returning. I mean almost everybody's jumped ship on him at this point talking about who will replace him. Plot twist, It's Daniel coming back! :))

    It seems we're the last rats standing on this issue, @Murdock. ;)
    It looks that way yes. Don't worry, I eat coconuts though. ;)
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    I took think people are taking Mendes' comments a little too literally. It seems like he was simply stating that EON knows what they're doing in terms of choosing the right actor for the job, whether it's Craig again or someone completely off our radars.
  • Tuck91Tuck91
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    Bell isnt as bad as everyone makes out to be. I still fail to see what everyone sees in Hiddleston. He wouldnt be a good choice, it would be a step down from Craig.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    Tuck91 wrote: »
    I still fail to see what everyone sees in Hiddleston. He wouldnt be a good choice, it would be a step down from Craig.
    I think it would really depend on what direction they choose to take with the franchise going forward. If it's to go in a more light hearted direction (like the Mission Impossible series currently is, or like how Bond used to be, and like how SP attempted to be), then Hiddleston would be excellent imho.
  • BounineBounine
    edited May 2016 Posts: 2,599
    "And to those pundits who are predicting which direction the series will take post-Craig, Mendes had this piece of advice:"I can guarantee whatever happens with it, it will not be what you expect. That's what [Barbara Broccoli's] been brilliant at, and that's how it'll survive.""

    He said regarding the franchise: "...it will not be what you expect." Not: "...who you expect."

    Who knows how serious Mendes is being. Maybe he doesn't like how all the media thinks that they know what's happening, hence this comment. Or his comments may have real validity. The latter I hope (maybe foolishly hope) for. I don't want a return to the Moore days of light hearted humour though, unless of course the actor can pull it off as naturally and as well as Moore. I don't know who could do this. Whatever happens in terms of the franchise's direction, the tone, the stories, whether Craig returns or doesn't return, or who will be cast as the new 007, nothing will surprise me.

    It would be great if Craig returned but it does seem less and less likely. The tabloids do get it right at times. It would be fantastic if it was a massive smokescreen or if Craig who initially wasn't keen, suddenly changed his mind and we got this official announcement saying that Craig has returned and will be embracing his more serious side again like in Casino Royale. I certainly won't be getting my hopes up on this one though. :)

    "I think it would really depend on what direction they choose to take with the franchise going forward. If it's to go in a more light hearted direction (like the Mission Impossible series currently is, or like how Bond used to be, and like how SP attempted to be), then Hiddleston would be excellent imho."

    @bondjames Maybe I'm one of the few who thinks this, but while I do find some of Simon Pegg's jokes in MI funny, I don't really like how he has brought this comical, light hearted tone to the franchise. I find his performance as Benji in MI and Scotty in Star Trek, annoying a fair bit of the time. It feels too comical to me and not natural enough. The latest MI films in general are more light hearted but I think that Pegg has brought it all one step too far.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Light hearted? In many ways, I think SP is one of the darker Bond films we've got, nearing a psychological thriller at some points and a paranoid, skewed adventure at others.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    In terms of Bond's almost relaxed approach to what was happening around him, I found it more light hearted compared to any of Craig's others, and that was my point, since we were discussing Bond actors.

    There may have been attempts to inject psychology and paranoia into it, but I still found it far more playful than anything we've got in the Craig era to date, at least in terms of how he reacted to such scenarios.
  • Tuck91Tuck91
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    Skyfall was darker than SP IMO.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    I think he was Connery leveled relaxed and cool, so maybe that's what's fed into it for some people. He's not as direly earnest in some sections, and his rather smooth approach to each scene may feel like a departure from the coldness of some of his work in CR and QoS to some.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Craig pulled that off in flying colors.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited May 2016 Posts: 23,883
    Yes, but the point was about Hiddleston being able to deliver that kind of performance. I think he could do it in his sleep, based on what I've seen of him to date.

    Asking Hiddleston to deliver a CR or QoS level intensity in particular is a different matter though - hence my point about direction impacting which actor is suitable.

    I think we won't be going back to that early level of intensity for a while, but I could be wrong.
  • BounineBounine
    edited May 2016 Posts: 2,599
    bondjames wrote: »
    In terms of Bond's almost relaxed approach to what was happening around him, I found it more light hearted compared to any of Craig's others, and that was my point, since we were discussing Bond actors.

    There may have been attempts to inject psychology and paranoia into it, but I still found it far more playful than anything we've got in the Craig era to date, at least in terms of how he reacted to such scenarios.

    Yeah, I agree. The story had dark undertones but it was Craig's performance that was light hearted in a number of parts which to me, didn't really harmonise with the story. This movie was all about tradition and I felt that they focused too much on this and lost sight of the characters. I don't care as much though as the whole Blofeld back story was just stupid and too personal. He shouldn't have had anything to do with Bond's past. While Spectre is an entertaining flick, the Blofeld back story and lack of character movement were the main facets that hindered my enjoyment of this film. Craig's light- hearted portrayal was the third worst thing about this film but I didn't mind it too much. A Casino Royale Craig would have been better though.

    I've never seen Hiddleston act. Must check out some of his stuff. What is worth watching of his? Wasn't he in a recent spy drama?
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited May 2016 Posts: 23,883
    Yes @Bounine, check out The Night Manager. He's not playing Bond there, but rather someone more unsure of himself. However, he shows huge potential to be an excellent Bond actor in it. His High-Rise performance is excellent too, but the film itself could be a little quirky and off-beat for most.
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