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  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    M_Balje wrote: »
    His comment what media think about first American directer for Bond:

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    Fuck you
    , we already get American composer..
    Is that what that meant? Learn something new every day. ;)

    Boy looks good. Has potential
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    Why Roger Michell. As far as I know, he never did action. Yes, neither did Mendes, but he doesn't seem a good choice to me. If Haggis writes the script as well. Get him.
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
    Posts: 1,731
    Murdock wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    I'll take Spielberg over Nolan any day! :D

    Agreed. Nolan isn't bad, but not even close to Spielberg's level. My gut tells me Nolan would make a disappointing, over-complicated Bond film.

    Same here. My problems with Nolan is his bad Expository heavy dialogue. It can really be heavy handed and self indulgent sometime.

    Agreed. It reached obscene levels in TDKRises - the amount of exposition was just unpalatable.

    But as Mendes4Life pointed out - CR suffered from quite a bit of this too... especially the poker scenes... YUK.
  • edited November 2015 Posts: 709
    John Wells? What the hell are you talking about? An American TV director who's first film was a box office flop? Why are you suggesting the entire cast and crew of critical and commercial dud Burnt to make a Bond film?
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,392
    dinovelvet wrote: »
    John Wells? What the hell are you talking about? An American TV director who's first film was a box office flop? Why are you suggesting the entire cast and crew of critical and commercial dud Burnt to make a Bond film?

    He could do a good job, IMO.
  • Oh OK then. Sorry Oscar winner Mendes and all you other wannabes like Nolan and Villeneuve, we got the director of BURNT in the house! With that sweet 27% rottentomatoes rating and 13 million dollar gross, we're striking while this guy is red hot!
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    AceHole wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    I'll take Spielberg over Nolan any day! :D

    Agreed. Nolan isn't bad, but not even close to Spielberg's level. My gut tells me Nolan would make a disappointing, over-complicated Bond film.

    Same here. My problems with Nolan is his bad Expository heavy dialogue. It can really be heavy handed and self indulgent sometime.

    Agreed. It reached obscene levels in TDKRises - the amount of exposition was just unpalatable.

    But as Mendes4Life pointed out - CR suffered from quite a bit of this too... especially the poker scenes... YUK.

    I think it was awful in both TDK and TDKRises. I don't recall any ham handed dialogue at the poker game though. Unless you mean the Casino guy spelling out the rules for poker?
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    I would love a Nolan Bond film but I would wait until a new actor plays the role
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  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Not the Bond I would visualize in mind, but since Craig's incarnation did change the imaginative directions, I think he would work. I don't know why but the picture on the left reminds me of Gregg Williams' Bond on Set: Quantum of Solace stills.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    I'll take Spielberg over Nolan any day! :D

    Agreed. Nolan isn't bad, but not even close to Spielberg's level. My gut tells me Nolan would make a disappointing, over-complicated Bond film.

    Same here. My problems with Nolan is his bad Expository heavy dialogue. It can really be heavy handed and self indulgent sometime.

    Agreed again. I love some of his films (Prestige, Dark Knight trilogy), but his flaws are obvious. Always thought Memento and Inception were needlessly complicated and a little pretentious.

    Memento is a masterpiece and Nolan's best film if only SPECTRE was that good. One of the most audacious and original thrillers in decades. That being said I think really Nolan doing Bond is a boat that sailed long ago.

    Mendes films were influenced by him and although I loved SF, that brother nonsense was Logan and Sam taking pages from DK trilogy.

    I think Warners is likely if MGM go for another partner, I'm not sure they'd break up the Craig Mendes partnership if both were willing to return.

    I think SPECTRE is begging to be followed up and the new studio will know that.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Shardlake wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    I'll take Spielberg over Nolan any day! :D

    Agreed. Nolan isn't bad, but not even close to Spielberg's level. My gut tells me Nolan would make a disappointing, over-complicated Bond film.

    Same here. My problems with Nolan is his bad Expository heavy dialogue. It can really be heavy handed and self indulgent sometime.

    Agreed again. I love some of his films (Prestige, Dark Knight trilogy), but his flaws are obvious. Always thought Memento and Inception were needlessly complicated and a little pretentious.

    Memento is a masterpiece and Nolan's best film if only SPECTRE was that good. One of the most audacious and original thrillers in decades. That being said I think really Nolan doing Bond is a boat that sailed long ago.

    Mendes films were influenced by him and although I loved SF, that brother nonsense was Logan and Sam taking pages from DK trilogy.

    I think Warners is likely if MGM go for another partner, I'm not sure they'd break up the Craig Mendes partnership if both were willing to return.

    I think SPECTRE is begging to be followed up and the new studio will know that.

    Actually TDK is his best :D
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 4,043
    Shardlake wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    I'll take Spielberg over Nolan any day! :D

    Agreed. Nolan isn't bad, but not even close to Spielberg's level. My gut tells me Nolan would make a disappointing, over-complicated Bond film.

    Same here. My problems with Nolan is his bad Expository heavy dialogue. It can really be heavy handed and self indulgent sometime.

    Agreed again. I love some of his films (Prestige, Dark Knight trilogy), but his flaws are obvious. Always thought Memento and Inception were needlessly complicated and a little pretentious.

    Memento is a masterpiece and Nolan's best film if only SPECTRE was that good. One of the most audacious and original thrillers in decades. That being said I think really Nolan doing Bond is a boat that sailed long ago.

    Mendes films were influenced by him and although I loved SF, that brother nonsense was Logan and Sam taking pages from DK trilogy.

    I think Warners is likely if MGM go for another partner, I'm not sure they'd break up the Craig Mendes partnership if both were willing to return.

    I think SPECTRE is begging to be followed up and the new studio will know that.

    Actually TDK is his best :D

    I think from his blockbuster films yes, love TDK but Memento is just ingeniously conceived, the whole device of using the tatoo's and backward storytelling. All the performances are superb, Pearce has never been better and Pantaliano is fantastic. It drives to a truly twisted and disturbing ending.

    Nolan and his brother at their most original and creative, I'd actually put The Prestige as my no.2 with TDK at no. 3 with Rises and Interstellar right at the bottom.

    The fact that they now want to remake such a classic fills me with dread to what contemporary spin they'll bring to it I phones etc it's truly chilling thought.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    edited November 2015 Posts: 4,116
    Judging from the feel of the general audience and those critics of course it feels like all the credibility achieved the Craig films has been bashed by SP.

    Out of the big leagues now in North America. Thanks Mendes, Babs, and Logan.

    Maybe good in the long run except now B25 has to follow trite rehash of boring old themes to finish the story.

    SP successfully succeeded in tarnishing Craig's previous and hampered those to come.



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    Shardlake wrote: »
    Shardlake wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    I'll take Spielberg over Nolan any day! :D

    Agreed. Nolan isn't bad, but not even close to Spielberg's level. My gut tells me Nolan would make a disappointing, over-complicated Bond film.

    Same here. My problems with Nolan is his bad Expository heavy dialogue. It can really be heavy handed and self indulgent sometime.

    Agreed again. I love some of his films (Prestige, Dark Knight trilogy), but his flaws are obvious. Always thought Memento and Inception were needlessly complicated and a little pretentious.

    Memento is a masterpiece and Nolan's best film if only SPECTRE was that good. One of the most audacious and original thrillers in decades. That being said I think really Nolan doing Bond is a boat that sailed long ago.

    Mendes films were influenced by him and although I loved SF, that brother nonsense was Logan and Sam taking pages from DK trilogy.

    I think Warners is likely if MGM go for another partner, I'm not sure they'd break up the Craig Mendes partnership if both were willing to return.

    I think SPECTRE is begging to be followed up and the new studio will know that.

    Actually TDK is his best :D

    I think from his blockbuster films yes, love TDK but Memento is just ingeniously conceived, the whole device of using the tatoo's and backward storytelling. All the performances are superb, Pearce has never been better and Pantaliano is fantastic. It drives to a truly twisted and disturbing ending.

    Nolan and his brother at their most original and creative, I'd actually put The Prestige as my no.2 with TDK at no. 3 with Rises and Interstellar right at the bottom.

    The fact that they now want to remake such a classic fills me with dread to what contemporary spin they'll bring to it I phones etc it's truly chilling thought.

    Memento is one of those critically praised films I just didn't care for that much. Prestige is a favorite though, and I love all 3 Dark Knight films. Still haven't seen Interstellar.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    mcdonbb wrote: »
    Judging from the feel of the general audience and those critics of course it feels like all the credibility achieved the Craig films has been bashed by SP.

    Out of the big leagues now in North America. Thanks Mendes, Babs, and Logan.

    Maybe good in the long run except now B25 has to follow trite rehash of boring old themes to finish the story.

    SP successfully succeeded in tarnishing Craig's previous and hampered those to come.

    Nah.
  • DoctorNoDoctorNo USA-Maryland
    Posts: 755
    I would pass on Nolan and Spielberg.

    Nolan would likely go further down the road Mendes started and develop all kinds of story outside of Bond. Dark Knight Rises had too little Batman being Batman. As well as slowing down the pacing to a crawl.

    Spielberg would probably deliver a Crystal Skull version of Bond at this point and that's unwanted too. He needs to continue making history movies at this stage of his career.

    I want a great action director with taste and class, who's capable with character scenes. If they spend money and time to develop a great script, then they need someone who can create great action sequences within the movie. With a tone that pulls back from SP and tailors more to CR (there is nothing wrong with the poker scenes).

    Watching CR last night, I was reminded of how many great action scenes there were and how compelling they were because they focused on Bond being physical. It's better to have hand to hand combat on cars (or planes) or in stairwells, rather than just cars or planes chasing each other. I really liked SP but the movie would be better if it had a couple more train fight like sequences... I think the Austrian plane sequence was pretty meh and that feeds into a lot of people's perception about the film being meh.

  • DoctorNoDoctorNo USA-Maryland
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    I would pass on Nolan and Spielberg.

    Nolan would likely go further down the road Mendes started and develop all kinds of story outside of Bond. Dark Knight Rises had too little Batman being Batman. As well as slowing down the pacing to a crawl.

    Spielberg would probably deliver a Crystal Skull version of Bond at this point and that's unwanted too. He needs to continue making history movies at this stage of his career.

    I want a great action director with taste and class, who's capable with character scenes. If they spend money and time to develop a great script, then they need someone who can create great action sequences within the movie. With a tone that pulls back from SP and tailors more to CR (there is nothing wrong with the poker scenes).

    Watching CR last night, I was reminded of how many great action scenes there were and how compelling they were because they focused on Bond being physical. It's better to have hand to hand combat on cars (or planes) or in stairwells, rather than just cars or planes chasing each other. I really liked SP but the movie would be better if it had a couple more train fight like sequences... I think the Austrian plane sequence was pretty meh and that feeds into a lot of people's perception about the film being meh.

  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
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    mcdonbb wrote: »
    Judging from the feel of the general audience and those critics of course it feels like all the credibility achieved the Craig films has been bashed by SP.

    Out of the big leagues now in North America. Thanks Mendes, Babs, and Logan.

    Maybe good in the long run except now B25 has to follow trite rehash of boring old themes to finish the story.

    SP successfully succeeded in tarnishing Craig's previous and hampered those to come.



    Nonsense. I've never heard of people talking about Bond more than now.

  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    Posts: 4,116
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    Judging from the feel of the general audience and those critics of course it feels like all the credibility achieved the Craig films has been bashed by SP.

    Out of the big leagues now in North America. Thanks Mendes, Babs, and Logan.

    Maybe good in the long run except now B25 has to follow trite rehash of boring old themes to finish the story.

    SP successfully succeeded in tarnishing Craig's previous and hampered those to come.



    Nonsense. I've never heard of people talking about Bond more than now.

    Hope you're right.
  • mcdonbb wrote: »
    Out of the big leagues now in North America. Thanks Mendes, Babs, and Logan.

    Aren't they three of the people who put Bond IN the 'big leagues'...?
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    dinovelvet wrote: »
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    Out of the big leagues now in North America. Thanks Mendes, Babs, and Logan.

    Aren't they three of the people who put Bond IN the 'big leagues'...?

    Yup ...so did P&W.
  • edited November 2015 Posts: 725
    DoctorNo wrote: »
    I would pass on Nolan and Spielberg.

    Nolan would likely go further down the road Mendes started and develop all kinds of story outside of Bond. Dark Knight Rises had too little Batman being Batman. As well as slowing down the pacing to a crawl.

    Spielberg would probably deliver a Crystal Skull version of Bond at this point and that's unwanted too. He needs to continue making history movies at this stage of his career.

    I want a great action director with taste and class, who's capable with character scenes. If they spend money and time to develop a great script, then they need someone who can create great action sequences within the movie. With a tone that pulls back from SP and tailors more to CR (there is nothing wrong with the poker scenes).

    Watching CR last night, I was reminded of how many great action scenes there were and how compelling they were because they focused on Bond being physical. It's better to have hand to hand combat on cars (or planes) or in stairwells, rather than just cars or planes chasing each other. I really liked SP but the movie would be better if it had a couple more train fight like sequences... I think the Austrian plane sequence was pretty meh and that feeds into a lot of people's perception about the film being meh.

    Excellent post. I agree about Nolan on all counts. Too little Batman being Batman in TDKR was exactly what was wrong for me also. It was also my problem with SF, too little Bond being Bond. I especially like your points about how the director for 25 (hopefully not Mendes) has to be good at integrating character scenes with the kind of action scenes that focus on Bond and not action sequences like the plane scene in SP and the train scene in SF that mostly use Bond as an incidental prop. Great action scenes like the stairwell fight in CR and the train fight scene in SP prove you don't have to bloat up the budget for great action scenes.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    Yea I don't think Mendes wants to return. Thank goodness.
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    I'm starting to think Craig won't return either. EON will have to get a really talented director for 25, and for once, gen up a really good script to possibly entice him to return. Logan was all wrong for Bond. I enjoyed SP but the script had problems. They have the time and the money to get the script right next time. But a lot will depend on the director. It always does.
  • edited November 2015 Posts: 2,598
    Wow, Bond 24 has just been released and already there are over 500 posts regarding Bond 25! :)

    I think they should beg for Martin Campbell to return. While Mendes has done a pretty good job with Bond, I think Campbell is the best man for Bond.

    I would love for Tom Hardy to play Bond if Craig leaves. Eon probably consider him too famous though.

    "I want a great action director with taste and class, who's capable with character scenes. If they spend money and time to develop a great script, then they need someone who can create great action sequences within the movie. With a tone that pulls back from SP and tailors more to CR (there is nothing wrong with the poker scenes)."

    @DoctorNo Agreed.
  • edited November 2015 Posts: 384
    QOS crap script is 100% HAGGIS so he won't be back. I smell P&W will do the ground work again. I think they already are.
    HASEROT wrote: »
    Stamper wrote: »
    QOS crap script is 100% HAGGIS so he won't be back. I smell P&W will do the ground work again. I think they already are.

    not technically... it was 100% Purvis and Wade... Haggis got the script to do his polish/revisions (like he did on CR) - but the writer's strike forced him to turn back in the script before it was done, leaving Forster, Wilson, and Craig to finish rewriting the thing themselves.. (at the time Haggis turned the script back in, it was less than half finished)..... Haggis wanted to keep working on it, but because he is a part of writer's guild, it handcuffed him.

    btw, i love how we bring up Vesper having a son - and that being completely preposterous, and a black mark against Haggis - well, so is Blofeld being Bond's foster brother - and who served up that little nugget??... so pick your poison.

    Wrong, I read this interview in Premiere magazine where the writers clearly say QOS is Haggis script and there's nothing left of their. CR is 95% PW, QOS is 0% them.

  • Actually it was A View To A kill Bond to Zorin

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    Again Mendes said himself he likes to work on family issues and he pushed that in Skyfall and Spectre I am somewhat surprised at how the brother angle is being complained about here and NOT in Skyfall in fact both can be traced to apparently a little known film called Goldeneye (I say little known because everyone claims Spectre is ripping off of Austin powers Goldmember when in reality that is far from truth if anything they are both ripping off Goldeneye but whatever)

    Back on to Bond 25 personally my short list of directors is simply

    Chris Mcquarrie
    Tony Gilroy
    Luc Besson
    Steven Spielberg

    And that's about it I think in February we should be getting the announcement of who is writing the script.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    Mendes should work on Once Upon A Time, then, not Bond.
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