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True. If there’s anything I’ve learned about B25, nothing is a given. It’s something of a cursed film.
If Scott's just rewriting now, and has 4 weeks to work on it, then it's highly likely we're not looking at a March 4th start date for production.
I can only hope for the best, but it seems disheartening that we are this far now and they still can't get along on a vision for this film, I must say. Too many cooks in the kitchen? Will they figure out what they want this movie to be while filming gets started?
I don't think Mr. Burns will do a page one rewrite either, because as has been said rehearsals are already happening and locations are being locked.
Mendes, Boyle, & likely Fukunaga all almolst walked and one did indeed. its clear after SP & B25 so far how things work at EON.
⚫ They are very close to Fukunaga. During The Playlist's early days - where they were part of Indiewire - they championed the director a lot. He has a close bond and I know for a fact that the writer of the article is close with Fukunaga.
⚫ I wouldn't be surprised if Fukunaga gave this guy the intel. After all, the writer knows a lot of personal details about the film. Namely, the ending.
⚫ The Playlist also broke the exclusive that the sequel to World War Z was being scrapped. This article is only from last week and was later confirmed:
https://theplaylist.net/paramount-david-fincher-world-war-z-exclusive-20190206/
Now on to Burns, I like Contagian a lot. I've seen some of his other stuff, but barely remember any of it. He supposedly has a history of fixing scripts and released the acclaimed The Report at Sundance (which could be a player next award season). He also wrote the new film about the Panama Papers.
I'm encouraged by this news - less encouraged by the tone of the article.
But at least we can finally relax and know it starts in April - especially after some members' reaction to the delay when Sandgren let it slip. I wouldn't even be surprised if they push it till May.
Nothing can surprise us at this point. Resignation and acceptance are kicking in.
Still, bit of a bellend.
Frankly, I’d be surprised if the April release isn’t delayed. June through November seems more likely, if the film survives.
Story by: John Hodge, Neil Purvis and Robert wade
Screenplay by John Hodge, Neil Purvis and Robert Wade, Paul haggis, Cary Fukunaga, and Scott Z. Burns
Christ
At least you won’t be surprised if it hits.
If we get this film next April and it’s great, I’ll be genuinely shocked.
I’m sure he has. I haven’t seen him in anything I can remember. I just don’t see him as Bond villain. Just an impression. I’d be very happy to be proven wrong. And I understand I have little more than a hunch to argue against his casting.
Been a Bond fan now for over 30 years and its hard times compared to what we've been used to and seeing many franchises ...x men, star wars, potter, star trek release with regularity. i'll exclude marvel because that is not a route we need for Bond.
Bond will always need new blood and appeal to the next generation, but with a kids attention span they won't even remember who agent 007 is by the time the next release comes at this rate.
I don't really care who writes the scripts as long as its not P&W. I don't really care who directs, as long as its not Nolan - we've had 2 Nolan-esque films now and that pacing doesn't work for Bond.
Bond needs a friggin long term game plan. The Craig era will be remembered for critical hits and misses, financially very successful but dragging on far too long.
Its getting to the point I don't really care if its EON or not. It shouldn't be a huge creative struggle each and every time there is no original source material.
Its not all their fault, they are tided together with a handicapped studio, but they never seem to be in a position where they are chomping at the bit and saying to the studio - look we're trying to make a film here, give us the money.
My dream right now is after Bond 25, they partner with another studio. That studio tells them they need to make a new film every 2-3 years no exceptions. If they don't want that then become execs and hire someone. Just be in the background or something, because lets be fair, they get distracted too easily, and someone focussed on entertaining us because they love Bond and nothing else is key to the future.
The first worrying signs with them date back to 2003 with the Jinx spin off.
This 100%
I was optimistic that we would get a good film since Fukunaga is a good director, but with this news about the script, I'm feeling this is going to be Spectre 2.0 in terms of quality.
Currently, the outlook is positive. Eon have a script and they know that it can be better, so they're working on it. This is encouraging - opposed, to merely making another Spectre or Quantum of Solace. They are putting in the effort to make this better.
I imagine the final writing credits will be
Screenplay by Scott Z. Burns and Cary Fukunaga
Story by Neal Purvis and Robert Wade
At this stage, anything Boyle and Hodge worked on has been jettisoned.
I have a heap of faith in Burns. I may even re-watch Side Effects.
I read the article that is causing jitters.
And here is what I just wrote back to one of our posters:
The Playlist is not tabloid, and the writer definitely knows a lot of what was happening with the Boyle fiasco. That's what indicated to me he has a very good source on, or close, to set (I read the article three times).
Until I hear anything different, or at least taming this article, I have NO reason to believe that this guy has made a click-bait article. Once again, he seems to know an awful lot and it kinda/definitely is what I was hearing about Boyle's departure.
The only thing I question is if this is really an overhaul, or a polish:
A polish is what I would expect at this point in pre-production and would not give me the slightest cause for concern. But, since this article is filled with information only one would know from being in close, and he said it is an overhaul, then I am concerned. Really concerned.
Once again, I heard nothing of this and I heard that second unit was hard in rehearsals (stunt unit). We've seen these pics. I heard about the locations (and yes I didn't hear which had been locked, but I know where they had visited (I still have heard nothing about Norway, as of this writing-- which is strange to say the least; but perhaps this info is the reason for that. Just yesterday at about two p.m., I was privy to seeing some very cool pics from GoldenEye with Gregg Wilson (not as a location, but where he was staying while he scouted jamaica recently).
So, if it is an overhaul, then what are the stunt guys rehearsing? Are they keeping in the action sequences, and over-hauling the story around them (a la M:I films?)? I certainly hope not (this fills me with dread, and contradicts CF's own words about story-telling).
So, yes, I am not alarmed by the hiring of Burns, IF this is a polish.
But I am concerned that this is an overhaul that's expected to be done in one month (I never heard of the March 4 date officially, and always maintained it was in March that filming would commence (according to its own production page; however, and, sadly, I have no reason to doubt this article). And I am concerned that, if this is true, why didn't CF (who is a talented writer himself), think that he could not solve whatever plagues this script?
I hate ever being one to feed the negative characters on this site, but if this is indeed an overhaul, and I have no reason to believe this writer doesn't know what he's talking about, then I am alarmed.
I sincerely hope I am wrong. And I await some feedback to those who have given me very good morsels in the past that have been on the correct side of the ledger (saying that, these people, particularly my new "friend", pretty much said about Boyle's departure what I have just read in this article...).
Until then, though, I'm knocked sideways by this news (and I don't doubt its authenticity in the least, I'm afraid. I just hope that the Playlist got one detail slightly incorrect: overhaul vs polish (and a polish would take 4 weeks. An overhaul??? I doubt even the best writer could turn in an amazing page one re-write in 4 weeks).
P
You won't know for certain if Boyle could have infused Bond with humanity and a fresh 21st century sensibility.