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agreed... :D
Danny Boyle's Bond 25
or
Christopher Nolan's Bond 26
both are fantastic from what I hear
Oh, this is good.
Because from what I've gathered even the some of the oldest Bond movies have their detractors. And with the Craig era having two big fan favorite entries, I don't see how he gets a worse rap than Brosnan or Dalton.
Oh wait. A script doctor is currently rewriting the whole damn thing.
Also, it's not that I distrust P&W. It's that I KNOW they are awful writers.
where you get that from? @Remington
its got to be just a polish
I agree. Marvel films leave me completely cold, as do the new Star Wars films.
I don't like Eon's delays either but I don't want Bond to get the Marvel treatment. Bond should feel like an event.
3/5 produced by Babs tho
Yeah! that talentless hack.
I think the issue beyond any problems P+W have, is the fact that they've worked on this for too long, there should be some variety to add freshness to the proceedings.
Then there's the reaction to the ongoing production details as well. To many items that can't be confirmed as real anyway.
But I'm at a disadvantage here, I like or love films 1-24. Craig Bond is top shelf across all four missions.
Ok, you're right in some respects, Ian Fleming did lay the groundwork for CR, but think about everything else they gave us. The film didn't start and end with the book adaptation. The first hour of the film is their own creation, with Haggis pitching in on dialogue and scenes between Bond and Vesper. They also gave us the third-act in Venice, which turned a small (honestly quite boring) portion of the book and turned it into a powerful and thematical action sequence. I could be wrong, but CR isn't one of your favourites just because it's an adaptation of the book, it's because its a well thought-out and well-written adaptation of the book.
As for Skyfall, yes, Mendes had a vision, but these two writers executed that for him. I love the cinematography but the film doesn't end there. The script is clever and witty, with great thematic content, with Logan pitching in to help with character and dialogue like Haggis did.
Although, we can't give Logan too much credit for Spectre because he essentially stalled production with weak drafts. I know what we got wasn't great, but they had to do something. It's just unfortunate Spectre was what we got, but I think that was product of wasted time and Mendes' lack of interest in this particular adventure.
So, I think I'd have to disagree. They're not awful writers. Yes, they need help but most writers do these days. It takes a lot of work to get things right, and please don't think I'm trying to shove my agenda down your throat because I'm not, I'm just trying to stay positive about a franchise that I love and about people involved that I still trust to get it right. Who knows? Bond 25 may be crap, but so far, I've had no evidence whatsover to support that.
I will, though, contribute the broader observation that later entries in any one actor's Bond canon can be difficult. History tells us that YOLT, DAF, AVTAK and DAD creak under the jaded weight (sometimes literally) of the man of the suit.
Q said it best - never let them see you bleed and always have an escape plan.
Craig's tenure has been a success. Not matter what you think of QoS, SF or SP, that is the ONLY way the film industry will look at it. The last two made serious, serious bank.
However, Craig's somewhat disjointed narrative arc has put B25 in a precarious position. Such dramatic, some may say turgid, depths have been plumbed in the other movies that B25 has quite the Houdini act to achieve if he wants to go out on a "high".
Personally, I think it is the legacy of over-arching narrative failure that has:
- compromised Craig's motivation to return one last time
- doomed Danny Boyle's involvement
- contributed to ongoing tension around the shooting script
Hopefully I am not succumbing to hyperbole when I posit that the margin for error with B25 is slim.
Still, I am excited every time Craig walks on screen and I very much look forward to what awaits us. Easy to forget that he is a wonderful actor and has absolutely nailed the role.
@007Blofeld https://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/articles/bond-25-new-writer-to-overhaul-shooting-script?id=04454
I wouldn't be surprised if there is already some second unit footage in the can.
Maybe the Scott Z Burns news is something he didn’t sign on for. If that’s the case, Eon will probably announce tomorrow CJF is off the project.
It’s going to be an interesting week...