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Also, one draft of SPECTRE (filed one week before the start of filming) ended with Bond saying, "We have all the time in the world." That didn't make the final film but indicates what the filmmakers had on their mind.
https://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2018/08/27/spectres-script-sibling-sort-of-rivalry/
Heart radio in London stated it was the title, they didn't mention 'working title'. LBC radio mentioned it was the working title, so too the Guardian website.
I was getting moderately excited by the news that Bond 25 is Shatterhand but no mention of it on the MI6 news page so I guess it's not official. I do like Shatterhand - it's very Bond title in tone (even if you're not aware of its origin in YOLT novel) but
2012 - Skyfall
2015 - SPECTRE
2020 - Shatterhand
Perhaps that's too many recent titles with S! Time for something different. I wouldn't mind
SHAKEN NOT STIRRED
as the title. :) Which is another S title. Whoops.
Amen to that.
I need a Cary Fukunaga-directed/Linus Sandgren-shot Bond film asap. This is the best team since the Mendes/Deakins collaboration. The hype is real.
Also, in respect to the Lupita news. It seems as though her and CJF are friends
This is looking like an inevitability. If bond 25 can score Lupita and Rami Malek, it's on it's way towards the greatest cast in a Bond film.
I suppose he could make a surprise return or Eon could recast the part. Blofeld kept changing actors back in the 60s Bond films so that tradition can carry on in the 2010s.
Shatterhand does feel right for a Bond title but another short title starting with S? Seems unlikely.
These Norway rumors on the other hand, very exciting!
She was essentially the Q character in Black Panther.
The Bond producers always picked popular singers/groups to do the next Bond theme tune so it's not that different to picking popular actors, I guess. Unknown singer does Bond theme - nah, never gonna happen!
Yeah that makes sense for the singer of the main theme, but bringing unknown actors to the public stage was something special about Bond. Eva Green wasn’t exactly a household name and I’d argue that her casting was one of the best decisions in the series.
I agree 100% with all of you points.
This as well...
the cast to Die Another Day was impressive too... the movie still sucked lol... but i do agree that on paper - on names alone, if they land those two, it will be an impressive cast ESPECIALLY if Waltz not coming back as Blofeld turns out to be a red herring
Casino Royale is the best example of casting unknowns you could use, but there are many other examples of casting in other James Bond films, where using well-known actors has worked. If you wanna go way back, Lotte Lenya had won a Tony award before she appeared in From Russia with Love, and it didn't stop her from giving a brilliant performance.
Let me ask you this, if it wasn't Casino Royale that made Eva Green famous and they ended up making the film after she had done all the films she has done, do you think she would have done a worse job with the role of Vesper Lynd?
Even tough I'm in the minority who kinda liked Waltz's Blofeld (the evil touch was sadly missing from the script to screen transition), I do agree with you. Not a fan of going after Oscar winner or nominees. Both Casino Royale and GoldenEye had a great cast and they were unknown. And to be honest I feel that people like Joe Don Baker, Robbie Coltrane, Gottfried John, Simon Abkarian, Mads Mikkelsen, Eva Green or Famke Janssen did a much better job than most of the cast of QOS, Skyfall and SPECTRE.
This post also made me think: they have gone the right way with Fukunaga. After Oscarized people like Forster, Mendes and Boyle, EON went for a little known director who is rather dynamic and talented to tell stories. I daresay there's something of CJF that reminds me to Campbell (altough the second one is much more an "action man" type of director): both men are known for their work on TV (Edge of Darkness / True Detective) and with a low profile, yet incredibly talent. I mean, none of them are "names" as Forster, Mendes and Boyle. And I think that may turn well.
It has nothing to do with thinking less of them, it's just distracting and lazy. Bernard Lee was better as M, as would many character actors, and they wouldn't be getting their own story lines detracting from Bond like Fiennes requires.
I wouldn't replace Gert Frobe with Henry Fonda no matter how great an "acting" job he did. It's not only distracting, but it's less distinctive. Gert Frobe is Goldfinger to most of the world.
Lotte Lenya was not a star, come on.
Sticking Emma Stone in CR as Vesper would have sucked, that's the point.
I wouldn't say these were nobodys. But I do think there is a certain alchemy to casting...these actors worked well together.
This is a model Bond should always follow IMO.
Mikkelson is excellent as Le Chiffre. A good unshowy villain.
I personally didn't mind Amelrics turn in QOS although I understand why people are underwhelmed.
David Harbour was a great bit of casting in QOS as well - look whats happened to his career.
I struggle to think of any equally satisfying casting in SF and SP. Some good actors were cast in barely speaking roles which seems a real waste.
If you feel distracted by certain casting choices then that's a real shame because the performances across the board in Skyfall were perfect in my eyes, Oscar winner or not. I didn't see Javier Bardem, I saw Raoul Silva.
Problem is SF was so huge they feel they need to match it's all star cast.
Fiennes might have been okay but the way his parts been written so far is annoying. Also as has been said many times, because he's such a big star in his own right, EON have to give him extra screen time. Very annoying.
He's just a bit distracting and perhaps too close to Craig in age. They look like contemporaries.
Malek would probably be alright but not interest in lupita. I may vomit if her and Craig have to share a love scene. Id rather see Bond kill her.
I agree that there is an appeal of seeing unknown foreign actors in Bond movies that blend in with the film. But people are letting a couple of bad apples (Berry, Waltz) inform their judgement of any famous actor coming into a Bond film, ignoring cases like Bardem, for example. Judi Dench won an Oscar in 1999, so I guess that makes her retroactively distracting in GE, TND, and then in TWINE, DAD, CR, QOS and SF. Sophie Marceau was in a Best Picture winner before TWINE, so I guess she was inferior because of that. Benicio del Toro won an Oscar in 2001, so I guess that makes him retroactively distracting in LTK, too. Famke Janssen was in X-Men, so I guess she's retroactively distracting in GE. Let's also pretend Daniel Craig wasn't in Tomb Raider with Angelina Jolie, no he was a total unknown and we hadn't seen him before.
Ultimately it is subjective, of course, but their performances good or bad in the film won't be dictated by Oscars, exposure or lack thereof.