No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • Let's see....if they film all 20 Purity episodes in 2017, that'd be what, six months, maybe seven?

    If they filmed 10 in 2017 (with the other 10 to be filmed in 2018), that'd be three, maybe four months?

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited June 2016 Posts: 23,883
    He'd probably have to commit to B25 sometime this year, if he's going to do it.

    I can't see the producers waiting until mid 2017 to know whether he's coming back or not, because that likely will preclude other actor casting options, given how easily schedules are being filled up these days (with Disney in particular grabbing everyone who's worth his salt, and Warner grabbing the rest).

    My point is EON will likely want to know by the end of 2016 who its actor for B25 is, imho.
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    The Purity deal is for megabucks so it makes sense why Craig would turn down a mega deal for two more Bond films. He can make big bucks doing the tv show. In money terms he can afford to say no to more Bond. It's quite a canny move by Craig but I'm sure those wanting more Craig Bond films will feel upset.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    bondjames wrote: »
    He'd probably have to commit to B25 sometime this year, if he's going to do it.

    I can't see the producers waiting until mid 2017 to know whether he's coming back or not, because that likely will preclude other actor casting options, given how easily schedules are being filled up these days (with Disney in particular grabbing everyone who's worth his salt, and Warner grabbing the rest).

    My point is EON will likely want to know by the end of 2016 who its actor for B25 is, imho.

    Secretly they will. EON is very sneaky, don't forget.
  • edited June 2016 Posts: 1,661
    I doubt Cubby Broccoli would want his current Bond switching to tv. Remember the Remington Steele saga and how an extra season of that show blew Brosnan's chances of taking over from Roger Moore.

    I doubt B and MG are quite like Cubby but it's not so great to have the current Bond actor appear in a major tv show. It's preferable to have the current Bond in film only projects. Also, Craig may be tired after filming 20 episodes so it's very doubtful he'd want to commit to a 6 - 8 month shoot on Bond 25. It's not impossible but it's very doubtful.

    I think it's all shaping up to a spring 2017 announcement that Daniel Craig won't be returning to the role of James Bond 007.

  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    I've not read 'Purity'. How large a part of the book is Craig's character?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    They're not splitting up filming, they're splitting up its release. All 20 episodes will be filmed in 2017, with ten to be released in 2017 and ten in 2018.
  • edited June 2016 Posts: 1,661
    If filming starts summer it's hard to imagine 20 episode complete by Jan 2018 which would be the time to start filming Bond 25. As mentioned in my last post, it's doubtful Craig would want to make 20 episodes of a tv show and then go into a long shoot for Bond 25. It might be too exhausting for him. I think that's the most likely reason why Craig won't come back for more Bond (as well as the so called megabucks deal he's got for Purity).
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    fanbond123 wrote: »
    If filming starts summer it's hard to imagine 20 episode complete by Jan 2018 which would be the time to start filming Bond 25. As mentioned in my last post, it's doubtful Craig would want to make 20 episodes of a tv show and then go into a long shoot for Bond 25. It might be too exhausting for him. I think that's the most likely reason why Craig won't come back for more Bond (as well as the so called megabucks deal he's got for Purity).

    Yeah, Bond is a mammoth project. No way Craig would start a Bond film straight after filming 20 episodes of a TV series.

    EON have become seriously sneaky over the last 6 weeks. I have no idea what they're scheming, but I plan to find out by 2017 at the latest.
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    A strange thought now mind you this is going to sound crazy but what if Warner brothers is going to be the distributer but they don't want to announce it till comic con? Think about it for a second one of the biggest events for action movies and WB not only announces and brings up some of the cast for Ben Affleck's The Batman, and a justice league trailer but they also show the title and bring up he cast for Bond 25 as well as the director also announcing a new bond video games is In the works for bond 25 from Rocksteady...

    After losing to civil war this may be the move that puts WB way over from Disney in other words.


    Check mate

    Or maybe not
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    You lot are some of the most optimistic, hopeful people I've ever met in my life.
  • RC7RC7
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    Craig may be back, he may not. Absolutely nothing points us in either direction. The idea that, 'things are moving fast' is nonsense. We know NOTHING. Accept that.
  • Posts: 9,843
    I know many things for example I know I like ice cream and I know I am going to have some later or maybe frozen cookie dough
  • RC7RC7
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    Risico007 wrote: »
    I know many things for example I know I like ice cream and I know I am going to have some later or maybe frozen cookie dough

    Good. Do that and watch a Bond film. Much more fun.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I too am partial to ice cream, for what it's worth.
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    See I do enjoy speculation though ... Shrugs oh well
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    RC7 wrote: »
    Craig may be back, he may not. Absolutely nothing points us in either direction. The idea that, 'things are moving fast' is nonsense. We know NOTHING. Accept that.
    It only seems like that because Bond, specifically Craig's future, has been a hot topic in the media for these past few weeks.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    RC7 wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    I know many things for example I know I like ice cream and I know I am going to have some later or maybe frozen cookie dough

    Good. Do that and watch a Bond film. Much more fun.

    I second this and suggest you not to watch Casino Royale '67
  • Posts: 5,745
    I think it's ridiculous to say we can't speculate based on recent events.

    A play, a 20 episode TV series, and an action-comedy over the next year or more. Craig is not coming back for a 2018 release date. Whether he comes back at all is still in play.
  • Posts: 9,843
    Walecs wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    I know many things for example I know I like ice cream and I know I am going to have some later or maybe frozen cookie dough

    Good. Do that and watch a Bond film. Much more fun.

    I second this and suggest you not to watch Casino Royale '67

    Dear god hope to never watch that film again it says something that this weekend I can look forward to watching Diamonds are forever and think "at least it isn't Casino Royale 1967"

    As for bond 25 I feel things are picking up but not in the way everyone suspects I feel that eon is leaking a few ideas they have had as to keep everyone chomping at the bit and to keep 007's name in the press now whether any of this is STILL how Eon is thinking is truely anyone's guess (for all we know Hiddleston and Turner could of both meet with producers and bombed the screen test) I do feel EON is getting all their ducks in a row so that when MGM does sign with a distributer they can start day one on getting bond 25 out. Remember this is the company that hired Sam Mendes as a creative consultant before MGM signed with Sony simply because they couldn't out right hire him as director.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Again, its unsure what implications this new show will have with regards to Craig future with the franchise. EON is being guarded about so many things lately, its hard to see the woods for the trees. However, the ripples left from EONs secret scheming make it obvious that a 2018 release is all but confirmed. I've never seen EON hit the ground running like this between actors.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    RC7 wrote: »
    Craig may be back, he may not. Absolutely nothing points us in either direction. The idea that, 'things are moving fast' is nonsense. We know NOTHING. Accept that.

    I've accepted that a long time ago. (I'm including myself.)
  • Posts: 5,745
    Again, its unsure what implications this new show will have with regards to Craig future with the franchise. EON is being guarded about so many things lately, its hard to see the woods for the trees. However, the ripples left from EONs secret scheming make it obvious that a 2018 release is all but confirmed. I've never seen EON hit the ground running like this between actors.

    Now, this is complete malarkey.

    1. Eon has always been guarded until the press conference for the film. Always.
    2. You have no proof of secret scheming. The only solid news bite we've gotten concerning Bond 25 is Mendes not returning. Everything else has been questionable or speculation.

    You have no conclusive reason to believe that 1. Daniel Craig is not James Bond and 2. The Bond 25 release date is set.

    I can guarantee you Eon is still working with Craig, and it's likely that they'll have to make a decision only after this year.
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    fanbond123 wrote: »
    I doubt Cubby Broccoli would want his current Bond switching to tv. Remember the Remington Steele saga and how an extra season of that show blew Brosnan's chances of taking over from Roger Moore.

    I doubt B and MG are quite like Cubby but it's not so great to have the current Bond actor appear in a major tv show. It's preferable to have the current Bond in film only projects. Also, Craig may be tired after filming 20 episodes so it's very doubtful he'd want to commit to a 6 - 8 month shoot on Bond 25. It's not impossible but it's very doubtful.

    I think it's all shaping up to a spring 2017 announcement that Daniel Craig won't be returning to the role of James Bond 007.

    Once Craig become co producer on Spectre BB & MGW being anything remotely to cubby was thrown out the window. Cubby would never let any Bond actor have this much power in the series. Same when they waited for Mendes. Cubby wouldn't have waited for him. He move onto to someone new.
    Daniel Craig is the first Bond actor to have been chosen in the BB Eon era. She will do whatever she can to get Craig back especially if his schedule allows him to film Bond 25 for Nov 2018 release
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    An interesting perspective @fjdinardo. I have no doubt BB would want Craig back. The question always has been whether he wants to come back, and what the distributor will say about it.

    The fact that the distributor thing hasn't been sorted out yet (when Wilson suggested off the cuff that it might be by now) suggests to me that they aren't really champing at the bit for this business, which is not surprising given how bad a deal Sony got stuck with last time.

    I think profitability of the future films will drive a lot of the future decisions, as a result. Cost control will be a major discussion item imho.
  • DisneyBond007DisneyBond007 Welwyn Garden City
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    I've made a Hitler video about the future of the James Bond franchise.

    Apologies for some disturbing content in this video, so please excuse for that!
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited June 2016 Posts: 15,423
    You know when and how we'll know things?

    1-Distribution Rights/Release Date
    2-Craig's Confirmation
    3-Bond 25 Press Conference

    And how many months are in between each of these? I don't want to go there... Yikes. If these three "verses" come and pass, that's when we'll really know things.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    bondjames wrote: »
    An interesting perspective @fjdinardo. I have no doubt BB would want Craig back. The question always has been whether he wants to come back, and what the distributor will say about it.

    The fact that the distributor thing hasn't been sorted out yet (when Wilson suggested off the cuff that it might be by now) suggests to me that they aren't really champing at the bit for this business, which is not surprising given how bad a deal Sony got stuck with last time.

    I think profitability of the future films will drive a lot of the future decisions, as a result. Cost control will be a major discussion item imho.

    Yup. Sony got played like chumps for the deal they got and no studio unless they're pathetically desperate will make such a deal to only take home scraps. It's not worth it. This new distribution deal could actually be a huge blessing as @bondjames said, profitability now more than ever for these film will drive things. After SF made $1.1Billion, when it was all said and done Sony took no more than $30million home. EoN aren't going to sucker in a distributor who'll accept and play ball with such a bullshit deal. If EoN want to walk away with big bucks, they're going to have to make sure the quality of the films are to a standard where serious money can be made. For the first time in a long time, going forward EoN's share of the profits are by nature standardly taking a hit. Frivolous spending and overblown budgets are going to be noticeably reduced.
  • edited June 2016 Posts: 2,081
    fanbond123 wrote: »
    The Purity deal is for megabucks so it makes sense why Craig would turn down a mega deal for two more Bond films. He can make big bucks doing the tv show. In money terms he can afford to say no to more Bond. It's quite a canny move by Craig but I'm sure those wanting more Craig Bond films will feel upset.

    He can afford to not work on anything ever, if he so chooses to, so whatever he might now get paid for one job is highly unlikely to have the slightest impact on his interest to do or not do another job.

    Why would anyone think he'd pick jobs based on what he gets paid for them? Why would he? Makes zero sense.



    And why do some people think we now know a hell of a lot more than we did a couple of days ago, and things are "moving fast" and whatnot? Where does that thinking come from? This is one weird thread...

  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Tuulia wrote: »
    fanbond123 wrote: »
    The Purity deal is for megabucks so it makes sense why Craig would turn down a mega deal for two more Bond films. He can make big bucks doing the tv show. In money terms he can afford to say no to more Bond. It's quite a canny move by Craig but I'm sure those wanting more Craig Bond films will feel upset.

    He can afford to not work on anything ever, if he so chooses to, so whatever he might now get paid for one job is highly unlikely to have the slightest impact on his interest to do or not do another job.

    Why would anyone think he'd pick jobs based on what he gets paid for them? Why would he? Makes zero sense.



    And why do some people think we now know a hell of a lot more than we did a couple of days ago, and things are "moving fast" and whatnot? Where does that thinking come from? This is one weird thread...

    Right? Every day there's somebody saying (usually the same people), "Oh boy, I can smell Bond 25 coming!" or, "Just a matter of time now, things are really moving," and "A 2018 release date is totally assured!"

    I'm a realist and base predictions on empirical data, so I don't see where all these clues pointing to massive gears moving in the EON machine are coming from. It is amusing, however, to watch people react who think there are.

    People think going forward without Dan will keep things moving quick, release wise, but I'd say it's the opposite. Without Dan, EON would have to figure out if they are going to keep the continuity going with another actor (bad idea, IMO) or restart entirely, in which case even more time has to be spent planning what that future will be like, and what vision will drive it, as they did with Craig pre-CR, and to do that they'll actually have to decide on an actor. That process will take a long time all on its own.

    Until we hear things about a distribution deal officially secured, there's no point in discussing anything else. No matter how much EON wants to make a move, they can't until MGM sort things out on their end, and they seem to be in no rush to get things done, either. I'm not surprised Dan is keeping himself busy; if he didn't it'd be like sitting in the waiting room of the doctor's office after you know he's called in sick.
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