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Don't blame us, blame those who made the movie.
The only major thing about the film that really takes me out of it all is the torture scene. If Bond was shown to stumble about and have temporary fatigue during the shootout as he and Madeleine exit the compound, it'd been one of the best parts of the Craig era, easily.
I love SP, and over time I've grown to appreciate it more than SF. It doesn't have a Tennyson-like scene that completely washes emotion over me, but none of the other Bond films do either, and I'm fine with that. SP is a far more interesting film to me in comparison to what came before, from almost every stand point.
I like SF too, as I like all the Craig era, but it is most certainly overrated in many ways, largely resting on Silva. I think he may be the weakest Craig villain for me, as Le Chiffre was a great Fleming addition done beautifully and Blofeld astounds and fascinates me every time I watch SP, where I'm always picking up new things about him from Christoph's nuanced performance. And Greene is interesting to me for his hair-trigger sociopathy and the facade of eco-protector he wears, aspects of his character that culminate to create a very satisfying and frightening villain, because men like him work with impunity against us every day.
Silva lacks the same impact as the others for me, I'm afraid. I don't think I was ever through the roof with him, even. I can enjoy him, but he's certainly not on the level of most of the Craig era, or to the level of the villains of old, as many reviews liked to proclaim at the time. His debut was interesting to watch unfold, but I think the one-shot monologue he delivers makes him peak on arrival, and it's only downhill from there. He could've been rescued if the film would've played up the doppelgänger angle between him and Bond more, men connected through their respective relationships with M. We lack a lot of supporting information on just what M and Silva's dynamic was like beyond some throwaway exposition of how they drifted apart as allies, and nothing more. Getting more background, even through brief flashback/s or simply more meat would've made Silva someone to understand. With what we get in SF, I hear his pain and anger, but never feel it.
My frustration with SP stems from EoN having all the time in the world to craft a great script and then because of time wasting and negligence, they had to do a rush job and were still crafting their shooting script well into the December of which filming was to start; and as a result I found the film to be incredibly disappointing. That's just unacceptable and hope a more serious approach and focus can go into the preproduction process, primarily the bloody script.
Have to disagree there, actually thought the car chase was one of the better bits of the film, glad to see it didn't go the crash bang wallop way of a Hamilton car chase and actually had some humour to it.
The SP car chase lacked any real danger. The two drivers where not engaged. The director's focus on that sequence was to intro the Franz O./Bond foster brother angle not to present a tense escape by Bond.
The chase started off clever with nothing working and ended ok but the middle was meh to me.
As it stands Spectre is far from the worse film in the franchise (even the whole brother thing doesn't bother me as I feel like it's now a well traveled road with Goldenye showing "brothers in arms" and Skyfall.... Yeah silva keeps calling M mother and referring to her as if she is his and bond's mother and we are really gonna be ok with that and not Oberhauser uhm sure fine let's call one execution of the same idea brilliant and the other poor) but it's not the best either but there is a new Jason Bourne film out so hopefully bond 25 borrows from that more so then the next marvel film
This is right. Is it a watchable and entertaining scene? Yes, in a mild sense. Could it have been better? Yes. It's poor directing. You have a car chase through Rome and instead of creating an amazing action scene, you take a phone call in the middle of it to 'drive the story.' It's the first time we're getting a potential full gadget Bond car and it could've been cool, but instead they go for humor, some of it lame. You've just established your bad ass henchmen, who also has a cool car, and he does... nothing.
Let's please have some real news sooner rather than later, so I can finish the grieving process and start to look forward to better days ahead.
Spectre isn't that bad, surely?
So we could have had another Bond v Villain car chase, smashing into things, firing missiles, guns etc at each other and Bond escaping anyway? They could have just re-done the chase from DAD, because that was exciting wasn't it?! I like the fact they did something different which payed of with a great visual gag. I dare say the majority will disagree but, hey ho, we all like different things :-)
Well stated. And me too. I know all this SP ramblings is not so much B25 speculation but it is some of us lamenting over SP hoping for a fresh approach with the next film.
Apparently this thread is whatever the posters want it to be. The actual title is irrelevant.
Of course it's not. We've just got quite a load of hysterical drama queens on this site.
Can you elaborate on that for the sake of clarity?
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...and if we agreed with you we would suddenly be sane. Gotcha....
But agreed off topic.
Indeed, let's get back on topic.
Well, it's 30th June, and it's the afternoon in the UK. EON better hurry up with the press conference or the day will be over.
:P
Because he's the new James Bond. ;)
Anyways, back on topic.