No Time To Die: Production Diary

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    Reminds me of Clive Owen evading Bond questions 11 years ago.
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Reminds me of Clive Owen evading Bond questions 11 years ago.

    Similar to Elba too; this is the media game. If you keep the fire burning and plant the seed in the public consciousness about being associated with Bond, then some rival studio is going to want to hire you for a Bond-like action role. It worked for Owen, he appeared in several Bond-lite flicks like Shoot em up, The International, Duplicity etc. Has ANY actor ever flat out said no, not interested in Bond when asked about it? I don't think there has been.

    Similarly, if you keep saying Yes, I'd love to play Bond! every time you're asked, it starts coming off as desperate. So the polite, evasive non-answer is what works.
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    RC7 wrote: »
    Bond is constantly in motion, whether that's at snail's pace or supersonic. Stuff happens. It's organic.
    Yes . I just wish that Babs would pick up the pace.
    At least make effort to get Craig firmed up now, and get a timetable established.

    As for Tom Hardy, if it ever came to that, I think he may have passed the audition as the less homicidal Kray brother, in the recent Kray film.
    He was rather convincing as the tough but, smooth, stylish gangster.

  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    timmer wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    Bond is constantly in motion, whether that's at snail's pace or supersonic. Stuff happens. It's organic.
    Yes . I just wish that Babs would pick up the pace.
    At least make effort to get Craig firmed up now, and get a timetable established.

    As for Tom Hardy, if it ever came to that, I think he may have passed the audition as the less homicidal Kray brother, in the recent Kray film.
    He was rather convincing as the tough but, smooth, stylish gangster.

    Hardy wants Bond ...he said in an interview but doesn't want to comment to ruin his chances or something like that. Said both in an interview.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    2019? So we'll just about squeeze 3 films into the decade.
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    2019? So we'll just about squeeze 3 films into the decade.

    Same as the last decade and the decade before (although the 90s had a bit of an excuse and still managed a 2-year cycle once things kicked off again).
    vzok wrote: »
    Dear Barbara,

    Get a wiggle on.

    Production Diary

    Me: "Move your ar—!" [composes self] "Who's that one coming up from behind there?"
    Q: "Oh, that's just every other competing franchise in the known universe."
  • edited July 2016 Posts: 1,661
    I wonder if Babs and MG ever get bored making Bond films? I'm sure the creative process is fun and challenging and it must be cool to see the finished film up on the big screen but yet *another* Bond film? I suppose the desire to make another isn't so immediate. Two year gap, three gap or even four - I doubt it's that worrying to EON. MGM would probably like them made every two years, though!
    Has ANY actor ever flat out said no, not interested in Bond when asked about it? I don't think there has been.

    Patrick McGoohan - famous for The Prisoner tv show - said he didn't want the part because he didn't regard James Bond as moral.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    I think that 3 year gaps are perfectly sensible in this day and age. Remember, marketing campaigns start 6 months in advance now, so people would get burnt out if there was a new film every 2 years. Its the 4 year gaps that really get me. Unless there is a really good excuse (like bankruptcy!) then I really don't see the need to take that long. If EON is at a crossroads and they need the time to forge a new direction, I understand. If they're just hanging around waiting for Craig to return their calls, I'm officially angry! ~X(
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    2019? So we'll just about squeeze 3 films into the decade.

    Same as the last decade and the decade before (although the 90s had a bit of an excuse and still managed a 2-year cycle once things kicked off again).
    vzok wrote: »
    Dear Barbara,

    Get a wiggle on.

    Production Diary

    Me: "Move your ar—!" [composes self] "Who's that one coming up from behind there?"
    Q: "Oh, that's just every other competing franchise in the known universe."

    The thing is Bond is the elder statesman of franchises and it doesn't need the sausage factory approach of Marvel, DC and the Disney Star Wars proposals.

    Bond's audience is slighty different to the above, more reliant on adults and less on kids and teenagers. I think people would soon get bored if Bond films were churned out with the same relentless tedium as Marvel films. A new Bond is a special event these days can the same be said about a new Marvel film? Although fair play they keep getting idiots to buy tickets so can't blame them.

    I constantly hear people saying the last two MI films have been better than Bond. Well SP was disappointing but at the end of the day Bond is still Bond. Ethan Hunt is just what Tom Cruise uses to get studios to pay for his extreme sports hobby. The MI films seem to be inhabiting the Moore/Brosnan lighthearted romp ground vacated by Bond when we got the serious Craig era.

    The only time Bond has been threatened by another franchise was Bourne 1&2 in 02 and 04 but this was only really an issue because Bond was at its lowest ebb at that point.

    Yes we'd all prefer the standard 2 year cycle but I'm sorry folks that's gone forever and it won't be coming back. More likely we are now stuck in a 3 year cycle at best. The productions are too big and more crucially there just doesn't seem to be the desire from EON to get them out faster.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    That's fine by me, as long as these 4 year gaps don't become the norm.
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    The longer gaps make me miss the video games. I know there are the continuation novels (of which I've only read Colonel Sun and the two most recent ones, Solo was okay, Trigger Mortis was very good, so I guess I could pick up some of the others to give me my Bond fix between films) and from what I've read the new comics seem to be doing well (I've never really been a comic reader myself, with a couple of exceptions like V for Vendetta, but I might check out the new series because the idea of taking Fleming's Bond and putting him in the modern era sounds very intriguing to me) but at their peak the video games were basically playable Bond films. I still remember firing up Nightfire and Everything Or Nothing for the first time and being greeted by the gunbarrel, symbolising the start of a new Bond story. The stories were often dumb and OTT, but they were fun and cinematic and having stuff like gunbarrels, a theme song/title sequence, and then in EoN Brosnan and co actually starring, this gave them a great sense of authenticity. It was a great way to bridge the gap between films. Unfortunately Bloodstone was the last real attempt to do this (and I didn't think much of that, mainly because it was so clearly influenced by QoS), and when that flopped they seemed content to resort to cheap film tie ins and cash grabs. And now we don't even have that. I wish we'd get a proper Bond game again. They should create their own universe with their own Bond, M, Q, etc. Create new icons. It'd be great if in 10 years time we could have threads on here like who was the best video game Bond actor, which was the best video game Bond car. EON should give the rights to a good developer and then they should do what EA did during the Brosnan era but take it a step further and create their own Bond era in game form.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    The longer gaps make me miss the video games. I know there are the continuation novels (of which I've only read Colonel Sun and the two most recent ones, Solo was okay, Trigger Mortis was very good, so I guess I could pick up some of the others to give me my Bond fix between films) and from what I've read the new comics seem to be doing well (I've never really been a comic reader myself, with a couple of exceptions like V for Vendetta, but I might check out the new series because the idea of taking Fleming's Bond and putting him in the modern era sounds very intriguing to me) but at their peak the video games were basically playable Bond films. I still remember firing up Nightfire and Everything Or Nothing for the first time and being greeted by the gunbarrel, symbolising the start of a new Bond story. The stories were often dumb and OTT, but they were fun and cinematic and having stuff like gunbarrels, a theme song/title sequence, and then in EoN Brosnan and co actually starring, this gave them a great sense of authenticity. It was a great way to bridge the gap between films. Unfortunately Bloodstone was the last real attempt to do this (and I didn't think much of that, mainly because it was so clearly influenced by QoS), and when that flopped they seemed content to resort to cheap film tie ins and cash grabs. And now we don't even have that. I wish we'd get a proper Bond game again. They should create their own universe with their own Bond, M, Q, etc. Create new icons. It'd be great if in 10 years time we could have threads on here like who was the best video game Bond actor, which was the best video game Bond car. EON should give the rights to a good developer and then they should do what EA did during the Brosnan era but take it a step further and create their own Bond era in game form.

    I've never been an avid comics fan but I'm enjoying Dynamite's run on the character. I have a soft spot for Vargr, Dynamite's first effort although I admit it has faults. Their second series Eidolon is far more engaging so far and the upcoming projects Casino Royale and Hammerhead look very promising as well.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Hmm, Its a little bit of a puzzle, isn't it?

    Nov/Dec 2019 is a big no go, that's Star Wars territory, and we are all desperate to see how rey and fins story ends.

    But at the same time, 2018 seems too soon now. They will not have a new Bond film in the cinema in just over two years, no way. Not with how long it takes these days.

    So whats the solution? I can only think that they should consider summer 2019, or maybe autumn. Its not an easy decision.
  • edited July 2016 Posts: 17,753
    Hmm, Its a little bit of a puzzle, isn't it?

    Nov/Dec 2019 is a big no go, that's Star Wars territory, and we are all desperate to see how rey and fins story ends.

    But at the same time, 2018 seems too soon now. They will not have a new Bond film in the cinema in just over two years, no way. Not with how long it takes these days.

    So whats the solution? I can only think that they should consider summer 2019, or maybe autumn. Its not an easy decision.

    Yes, 2018 does seem a bit early doesn't it. If things are moving in the pace which speculation in this thread implies, could we be in for a longer wait than 2019? 2020, for example?

    (all depending on Craigs return (or not), script, casting, competition from other releases etc.)
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    Hardy is 38, same age as Craig during CR, but then again he doesn't look it. But I guess if he wants it, someone needs to get the ball rolling before it's too late
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    Nov/Dec 2019 is a big no go, that's Star Wars territory, and we are all desperate to see how rey and fins story ends.

    But at the same time, 2018 seems too soon now. They will not have a new Bond film in the cinema in just over two years, no way. Not with how long it takes these days.

    Given the madness of going up against Star Wars it's 2018 or 2020 then.

    I don't see why 2018 isn't still on. We have no idea how advanced they are on the script.
    For all we know they've said to Dan 'we're aiming to start shooting in early 2018 are you in or not?' and he has said 'come back to me with a script by end of March 2017 and I'll let you know which will still give you 9 months to cast a new Bond.'

    What perturbs me more is Babs getting distracted by these other ventures she is involved in and the studio problems. With MGW semi retired and no distributor who is actually pushing B25 forward at the moment?
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    For all we know? Where do you get this nonsense from? Sorry, but...And you DO know, that a new actor gets another script, do you?
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    edited July 2016 Posts: 9,117
    Germanlady wrote: »
    For all we know? Where do you get this nonsense from? Sorry, but...And you DO know, that a new actor gets another script, do you?

    It's called 'speculation' which is err the title of the thread. If you want a thread called 'B25 facts' go ahead and create one but you'll find it a lonely place.

    Re a new actor getting the script. You have a basic story idea which is tailored and polished to an actor's particular approach. You don't need to rip the script up and start from scratch just because Dan says no. You're making a James Bond not a Daniel Craig film so amazingly you can use the same script you have about a bloke called James Bond and get someone else to play him. That's called acting.

    The TLD script was originally written for Brozza and then when that fell through at the 11th hour they didn't shred it they merely adjusted aspects to complement Dalton's approach.

    And wasn't Logan's script ripped up and they started from scratch less than a year before shooting, granted SP not the best example as it was still a shambles, but 1965-1989, 1995-1999 and 2006-08 they only ever had about a year to come up with a new script before shooting started. You're not writing Chekov here.
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    Well, you worded it as if it was a fact. That's all.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    and we are all desperate to see how rey and fins story ends.

    I couldn't care less.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I won't be surprised if we wouldn't get a factual statement regarding "Bond 25" from Eon Productions till mid-2017.
  • I won't be surprised if we wouldn't get a factual statement regarding "Bond 25" from Eon Productions till mid-2017.

    It may be almost that long before all the non-007 projects (the current ones) conclude, for all we know.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    edited July 2016 Posts: 9,117
    Germanlady wrote: »
    Well, you worded it as if it was a fact. That's all.

    Maybe lost in translation in German but 'for all we know' means 'it's possible'.

    For all we know DC has quit but for all we know he has also signed on for another three.

    Anyway never mind. Es ist nichts.

  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited July 2016 Posts: 8,395
    Walecs wrote: »
    and we are all desperate to see how rey and fins story ends.

    I couldn't care less.

    Say what you like, but its possible the next two Star Wars films will have Avatar level production values. It'll be a massive cultural event, with Rian Johnson and Colin Trevorrow finally clueing us in on the remaining mysteries if the Star Wars universe - We can't pass that up.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    December 2018 is over 30 months from now. Well within reason even at Logan paced writing.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    edited July 2016 Posts: 9,117
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    December 2018 is over 30 months from now. Well within reason even at Logan paced writing.

    I'd rather 2028 than let Logan have another crack.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited July 2016 Posts: 8,395
    Sad news for fans of Jamie Bell and Theo James:

    EON execs were apparently unimpressed with their recent auditions subsequently have ruled them out for the role.

    According to one source James failed to recapture the Bondian aura he had demonstrated in a series of Hugo Boss ads earlier in the year.
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    @Mendes4Lyfe, you have a link?
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @Mendes4Lyfe, you have a link?

    Google it. The inquisitor.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @Mendes4Lyfe, you have a link?

    Google it. The inquisitor.

    Finding nothing.
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