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"In an age where franchises have release dates mapped out until the day we die and beyond, it's surprising we're still waiting for Bond 25."
"I know Bond may be moving to a different studio, and Daniel Craig is up in the air, but it's been over a year since Spectre. Interesting."
"In fact, it's been fascinating watching EON resist the current model. They could do a Q spin-off, a Blofeld origin etc. Yet they don't."
"Spectre didn't do Skyfall numbers, but it still made almost $900m worldwide. Ordinarily that would trigger announcements for 2018/2020 etc."
"Not saying it's a good or bad thing either way. Just making an observation."
"@ChrisHewitt think the lack of a set in stone distributor for B25 onwards is the big issue. Apparently they were meant to announce that at CinemaCon (or at least decide who’s getting it around that time last year)
Makes sense. I'm sure EON would like to have announced Bond 25 by now, but all the pieces have to fall into place. Stick with Sony or twist?"
I can understand the balderdash about Blofeld (cough, Vader, cough) but Q?! Seriously?!
Why not do an M Spinoff with Mallory back when he was in the anti-IRA regiment and was imprisoned? The whole movie was about the regiment during the eighties when Mallory and his underlings were sitting and spending their days in a small barricade, wasting time while pretending to be the resistance against the IRA people (a la Blackadder Series Four) until the day they are surprise-attacked and imprisoned. Best we can get from an M spinoff.
You get my point.
Sony was going to try this with the Andrew Garfield-universe Spider-Man. They announced a Sinister Six film and plans for other spinoffs.
The Marvel model works because you can have multiple characters already developed for films and have others you can do so. You can have a "shared universe" of movie characters because you already had a shared universe of comic book characters.
With Bond, you could do a Felix Leiter movie (similar to the comic book). But as noted above, is anybody really seeking a Q movie? A Bill Tanner movie? The adventures of agent 0011?
Agreed.
And whomever said a Bill Tanner movie. =)) ...funny sarcasm.
Bill Tanner: The Movie from the studio that f'up the Ghostbusters. :P
The problem with Bond not being able to churn out spinoff films (apart from the potential Felix Leiter has) is because this universe has one protagonist and that is Bond. It's about Bond being the hero only. Whereas DC and Marvel have a universe where there are countless protagonists who have their stories to tell. They're not detached from one another. Bond doesn't work that way, because his franchise is about one character, not multiple characters.
This. In some scenes (not the whole movie), SPECTRE seemed like Team Bond. That messes around with the dynamics. Bond is a lone wolf.
M - Gives mission.
Moneypenny - Flirting with the secretary scene that adds to the film's regularity as the mission briefing does.
Q - gives gadget, artillery and equipment.
Tanner - adds details to mission briefing while M provides it.
These characters are created for these purposes and these purposes alone, so EON should stick to it.
I'd enjoy a return of Bond flirting with MP in the office, meeting up with M and any higher-ups in his office, and then jumping right to Q's workshop to get his weapons and gadgets, before embarking on his mission (where we may not see the rest of the team at MI6 until the ending of the movie).
As long as Craig is Bond, the current incarnations of M, Moneypenny, and Q will have an abundance of screen time in comparison to their predecessors.
Exactly! For years people were complaining about Miles being out in the field instead of being parked behind her desk. Now, the last few films have Bond and his compadres running around, tag teaming abroad. They need to stop all that. Keep the home team at HOME and let Bond go about on his own, making new friends like he used to and as he should.
In Tomorrow Never Dies, we cut back to London a couple of times to see Judi/M dealing with the situation but that still didn't change the dynamic. It was akin to Bernard Lee/M in Thunderball, where we cut back a couple of times while Bond was on his mission. (In the fifth draft to Dr. No, written shortly before the start of filming, there was one M/Moneypenny scene back at HQs but it ended up either not being filmed or just cut from the movie.)
Things began to change with The World Is Not Enough. M had a personal connection with Elektra and got kidnapped. This was around the time you began seeing quotes from Michael G. Wison about how if you had such a great actress you had to use her more.