No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • QuantumOrganizationQuantumOrganization We have people everywhere
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    What stills from SPECTRE did he look bad? That's the one thing from the film I can't rip.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    pachazo wrote: »
    Craig is physically fit at his age like no other Bond actor before him. However, there were closeups of his face in SP that were very unflattering. Moore looked way better in TSWLM. I hate to even discuss such things, as it's really not important, but I couldn't let that comment just slip by.

    His schnoz was looking a little hefty during his conversation with Lucia at the funeral
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
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    I thought Craig looked great during SPECTRE. If anything, the shorter hair in Skyfall made him look his most unflattering. Regardless, he's still a good looking man.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    edited February 2017 Posts: 16,351
    The only time he looked bad to me was in the SP Trailer when he said "I was due for some overdue holiday" Which was reshot. He looked much better too.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    What I was saying was his acting I didn't feel his acting was up to par in SPECTRE. In skyfall according to looks, he looks terrible with his facial hair and short super blonde hair
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
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    What I was saying was his acting I didn't feel his acting was up to par in SPECTRE. In skyfall according to looks, he looks terrible with his facial hair and short super blonde hair

    I disagree. He looked great with stubble.
  • SeanCraigSeanCraig Germany
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    I think his acting was fine in SP but as far as I know due to his injury he could not be that agile anymore ... missing a trademark element of "his" Bond: the (sometimes brutal) physicality. The train fight was great but I was disappointed by the austria snow scenes.

    One lesson learned for me: I won't read that much before the movie next time. I had too many expectations - like a ski scene that was not there and other things.
  • Posts: 4,325
    SharkBait wrote: »
    I build a timemachine and traveled to future. 25 years from now, DC is still producing Bond with Sam Mendes (Broccoli started producing movies that interested her) and now after a long hiatus from acting they're rebooting Blofeld, who is now Bond's father, played by previous Bond, Daniel Craig.

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    This is also Aidan Turner's 9th Bond.

    That looks like Blofeld to me!
  • MrcogginsMrcoggins Following in the footsteps of Quentin Quigley.
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    I'm going to have to try very hard to unsee that !...
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
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    SeanCraig wrote: »
    One lesson learned for me: I won't read that much before the movie next time. I had too many expectations - like a ski scene that was not there and other things.

    Yes, or an action packed car chase
    i will do the same next time
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    Oh come on. It would totally not be a bad look for Someone in his mid seventies.
  • I think the Craig-era films have given us the best run of 'quality' Bond films since the sixties. But I still can't get my head around a Bond that isn't tall, dark, and classically handsome. I'm hoping they'll move on and cast a trad, dapper Bond next. The Craig-era ended its four film run with a perfect finish. He's free, out of the service, with Vespers 'you can change' line bookends and completes the great run of three fine movies and one quirky miss-fire.
    New lets see an actor who, when he walks through the door, even red blooded males go "who is THAT dude!"
    Like Sammy Davis did in that Diamonds are Forever out-take.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    shamanimal wrote: »
    The Craig-era ended its four film run with a perfect finish. He's free, out of the service, with Vespers 'you can change' line bookends and completes the great run of three fine movies and one quirky miss-fire.

    Completely agree.
  • edited February 2017 Posts: 1,661
    You could argue a fifth Craig film would be like The Force Awakens. The SW saga did end with episode 6, the rebel alliance defeated the Empire. The End. Disney rebooted or re-continued (if there is such a word!) the SW universe but it's debatable it was a natural, smooth continuation. It's possible a fifth Craig film will have do a bit of 'Force Awakens' and push stuff forward even if it feels like the Craig Bond universe came to a natural conclusion at the end of SPECTRE.

    The most logical plot development would be Blofeld escaping prison, Bond retired and married to Madeleine.... and then Blofeld threatens the world, Bond's licence to kill 00 status is renewed and Madeline is given some temporary assistant role.

    But all that can be scrapped if Craig is serious and does quit and a new actor takes over. I think the franchise is at another (potential) transition period.
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    Yea they didn't kill off Blofels cause if Craig comes back (he will) then they can countinue the Spectre story.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Walecs wrote: »
    shamanimal wrote: »
    The Craig-era ended its four film run with a perfect finish. He's free, out of the service, with Vespers 'you can change' line bookends and completes the great run of three fine movies and one quirky miss-fire.

    Completely agree.
    +1. Could have been better on the last one, but overall not a bad effort from him.
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    The Force Awakens was made 32 years after Rotj, next Bond will be made in a span of 3-4 years after Spectre. So I don't see the case being the same as with Star Wars, if they continue with Craig/re-boot continuum.
  • edited February 2017 Posts: 6,844
    Walecs wrote: »
    shamanimal wrote: »
    The Craig-era ended its four film run with a perfect finish. He's free, out of the service, with Vespers 'you can change' line bookends and completes the great run of three fine movies and one quirky miss-fire.

    Completely agree.

    Very true. I hadn't quite thought of it that way, but you're right. They played the ending of Spectre very safely and ended it so Craig could leave or continue. And despite the overall arc of Craig's Bond presenting a confusing arrangement of life stages (CR and QOS presenting Bond Begins, then SF starting with washed up Bond and concluding with yet another sense of Bond Begins), SP does wrap up with Bond quitting the service and fulfilling the promise he'd originally made to Vesper. Could have been in a better story with a stronger love interest and with no need for retconning, but the idea is there nonetheless.
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    00Agent wrote: »
    SeanCraig wrote: »
    One lesson learned for me: I won't read that much before the movie next time. I had too many expectations - like a ski scene that was not there and other things.

    Yes, or an action packed car chase
    i will do the same next time

    There was supposed to be a ski sequence, but it was rewritten because Craig said he can't ski. Instead we get a generic plane sequence.

    That kind of thing really annoys me. What are stunt men and doubles for?!
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    edited February 2017 Posts: 1,755
    I know a lot of people on here feel SPECTRE was a worthy conclusion to Craig's era as 007. I respectfully disagree for many reasons. Maybe the biggest reason is because I'm biased, and I love Craig as 007. But honestly, as much as I enjoyed SPECTRE the entire film was a little underwhelming to be a conclusion to Craig's story, especially the finale. The film's conclusion sets up the perfect story for a sequel. The way Blofeld stares at Bond as he walks away on the bridge says it all...

    Furthermore, you don't introduce an actor such as Christoph Waltz as Blofeld, give him not even a half an hour of screen time, keep him alive at the end, and end the story right then and there. There is MUCH to be desired after an ending like that, in my opinion.

    On top of it all, Craig needs to give us one more film seeing as though we were gypped an adventure between QoS and SF. If Craig (hopefully) does indeed return, the story MUST be written to be an absolute, banging grand finale for him as 007. It cannot be left open like SPECTRE's ending was because it is simply not fair to the fans.

    If Craig does not return for the next film, fans like me will be let down because of how incomplete SPECTRE felt. Again, that's my opinion, but there was much to be desired by the time SPECTRE ended.
  • edited February 2017 Posts: 623
    Very true. I hadn't quite thought of it that way, but you're right. They played the ending of Spectre very safely and ended it so Craig could leave or continue.

    I came out the cinema completely thinking Spectre was the last Craig film, and it was written as such. Vesper said to him in CR "you can change", and he briefly did, he left the service to float around the world with her. She dies, and he becomes cynical Bond that we know and love, and is 007 again.
    In Spectre, Madeleine tells him the same thing, on the train, he ponders, and says "I'll drink to that", and realises that he's got another chance to leave. He always had a chance. So when it comes to the (rather ham-fisted) moral choice on the bridge, with M on one side, (ie being an agent and assassin), or Madeline of the other, he chooses Madeleine, (and more importantly, not to kill Blofeld). And the whole Vesper story arc is completed. From his first two kills, ten years ago, to his refusal to kill. "Out of bullets" he says. Figuratively and literally. He's done.
    So Craig's Bond drives off towards Big Ben in the DB5 and that's that.
    Obviously any Bond movie where he doesn't die is 'open ended', so the actor can return. But there was never, ever, in the whole series, an ending where Bond makes such a bold move as leaving the service, and driving off into the sunset(rise), to start another life.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    You're on the money @shamanimal. I completely agree with your assessment. Having said that, the film was a major disappointment for some (including me) and I wouldn't be surprised if Craig & Mendes, perfectionists that they are, want to come back to clean up their mess.

    @DonnyDB5, I can appreciate where you're coming from. However, all long running Bond actors have ended on a relatively poor note, so if this is Craig's last, it's par for the course.
  • Getafix wrote: »
    00Agent wrote: »
    SeanCraig wrote: »
    One lesson learned for me: I won't read that much before the movie next time. I had too many expectations - like a ski scene that was not there and other things.

    Yes, or an action packed car chase
    i will do the same next time

    There was supposed to be a ski sequence, but it was rewritten because Craig said he can't ski. Instead we get a generic plane sequence.

    That kind of thing really annoys me. What are stunt men and doubles for?!

    I don't think they scrapped it because he didn't know how to ski but because he injured his knee. Same difference though, I guess. Let's keep in mind that during OHMSS Diana Rigg actually didn't know how to ski yet we see her skiing thanks to the movie magic of the 60s.

    I too was looking forward to the "skiing parkour" they had planned. Bond crashing a biplane into some trees is just no comparison. SP was really lacking in any great action sequences and could have been improved by a good thrilling ski pursuit. We've had good skiing scenes with Lazenby, Moore, and Brosnan. That's one Bond "trope" that hasn't been overdone. I'd love for each new Bond to have their own innovative ski chase.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    In the past couple of days, I've rewatched FYEO and TWINE and pined for another excellent ski sequence in the near future.
  • RC7RC7
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    In the past couple of days, I've rewatched FYEO and TWINE and pined for another excellent ski sequence in the near future.

    FYEO is excellent. Underrated actually.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    RC7 wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    In the past couple of days, I've rewatched FYEO and TWINE and pined for another excellent ski sequence in the near future.

    FYEO is excellent. Underrated actually.

    Incredibly. I can't imagine how high I would rank it if the score was done by Barry instead.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    The score is abysmal.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    jake24 wrote: »
    The score is abysmal.

    It's like Serra's work in GE: mostly terrible, typically stands out in a really negative way, but the few highlights it does contain are really stellar bits of music.
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