No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • Posts: 6,601
    Getafix wrote: »
    Bit tired of Craigs prevarication. As if he's got a better offer on the table...

    Maybe see it this way, on the surface its "Oh, the bastard can't make up his min and is holding off production" -. Much more more likely its just that: He had the guts to say No to Bond, when there was no script really and when he was far from wealthy or else. So, why on earth would it be different now? There IS most likely no script worth basing a decision on. So - blame THEM for not getting their act together. That's the right address.
  • Posts: 12,526
    Hey guys! More speculation? Jeffrey Wright put a QOS picture of himself on his Instagram feed! Please tell me Felix Leiter in the form of Wright is back for Bond 25!!!!!! :-bd
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    RogueAgent wrote: »
    Hey guys! More speculation? Jeffrey Wright put a QOS picture of himself on his Instagram feed! Please tell me Felix Leiter in the form of Wright is back for Bond 25!!!!!! :-bd

    If so, that would suggest two things, the script/story-line is further along than we have been led to believe, and, in keeping with Craig's continuity, Craig is looking more solid.
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    RogueAgent wrote: »
    Hey guys! More speculation? Jeffrey Wright put a QOS picture of himself on his Instagram feed! Please tell me Felix Leiter in the form of Wright is back for Bond 25!!!!!! :-bd

    I hope it's the case, but I'm not going to get my hopes up. I would love it if they brought back Wright's Felix for Bond 25.
  • edited April 2017 Posts: 2,598
    Yeah, they need to bring back Wright. He definitely hasn't been used enough.

    Regarding this whole reboot thing, I'm not really keen on it unless it was done very thoroughly where we first see Bond in a battle in the Royal Navy and then him being recruited to the service and not just all of this in the PTS. It would have to be a real origin story and where we have a Blofeld in the shadows who eventually meets Bond after a couple of films and tells Bond about his history and how he rose to where he is with obviously no foster brother angle again. :)
  • SeanCraigSeanCraig Germany
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    I would be keen to see Wright, Fiennes and Wishaw back for more
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    Wright needs to come back for the next one, but at the same time, I'm not exactly holding my breath waiting for it to happen either.
  • edited April 2017 Posts: 2,598
    I don't care about Harris returning. I do like Wishaw as Q but I wouldn't be overly bothered if he doesn't return, providing they replace him with an older man like Boothroyd who can act well. In fact if they do, I'd like him to be called Boothroyd. I definitely want Fiennes and Wright to return.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    edited April 2017 Posts: 28,694

    jfreewright Eh, who's that brother? #007


    That made me grin. I hope there's some actual purpose behind that, and Wright knows something we don't. We haven't seen old Felix since QoS, and with his mention in SP you'd hope they'd write him into the action in a sensible way once the last Craig film rolled around. We could also be privy to a discussion between the two, something along the lines of, "Hey James, that Lucia you sent my way was quite the fox."

    As for Bond films post-Craig, I think clean slate is better. I love Whishaw as Q especially, but they need to get no-names with lower paychecks to play the MI6 family so they don't feel forced to write them into the story more to justify their massive incomes off the films. I honestly miss the days where it was just Craig Bond and M, but I don't think we'll see that again. We got only two films away from the formula of the MI6 family, and that wasn't long enough.

    When it comes to Blofeld, I really don't want to see him again in any shape or form after this. They would've had to introduce him from the beginning of an era to the end, and had a plan throughout for each film to tie it up nicely in a climactic way. They didn't do it in the 60s and it failed, and they weren't able to do that in the 2000s because of the rights issue. I would only want to see an era explore SPECTRE in full if it started with Bond only hearing the name of the organization in the first mission, slowly leading to his discovery of its members and possible leader. The last film/s would then reveal that SPECTRE has dug itself into every major intelligence agency in the world, and Bond spends an entire film paranoid of who is bought in his midst.

    They could still work with this idea of SPECTRE being inside MI6 for Bond 25, to explain a Blofeld escape or something of that fashion. I'd love to see a Craig Bond return to the fight at MI6 to find he can't trust anyone.
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    Bounine wrote: »
    Yeah, they need to bring back Wright. He definitely hasn't been used enough.

    Regarding this whole reboot thing, I'm not really keen on it unless it was done very thoroughly where we first see Bond in a battle in the Royal Navy and then him being recruited to the service and not just all of this in the PTS. It would have to be a real origin story and where we have a Blofeld in the shadows who eventually meets Bond after a couple of films and tells Bond about his history and how he rose to where he is with obviously no foster brother angle again. :)

    only if it's done as a period piece!

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    No chance of that happening.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited April 2017 Posts: 23,883
    Most of the general public don't really care about Blofeld. He's just another super villain to them. They associate super villains with Bond films, and there have been many excellent ones over the years. The film series audience is not, for the most part, the novel audience.

    Therefore they will have to be very careful in how they use this character going forward, because inevitable comparisons to super villains of the past will occur. In fact, I'm sure that happened in the minds of viewers during SP. When we've had villains who've gone for global domination in the past, having one whose ambition is limited to fiddling about with surveillance and authoring Bond's pain like a spoiled brat seems quaint and frankly unambitious.

    Reality is far more intriguing, especially these days. So I can appreciate P&W's point about the dilemma facing them in terms of where to go with this. We tend to get caught up in our little world here sometime, but ultimately, they are writing for a global audience of varying knowledge levels regarding the Bond universe.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    As time goes on it becomes harder to write Bond scripts, and villains in particular. So many things have changed, and too much has advanced. Technology and the use of it de-glamorizes and soils a lot of what Bond used to be, where he was simply fighting other dangerous men with guns. Now, he's got to worry about surveillance, tracking, hacking, etc. It's a more complicated world, one I think SF showed in parts, and it's hard to write for that kind of world now.

    That's one of the beauties about period pieces. You can create a character who only has to worry about contending with other human beings, and the story can revolve around that simple human struggled amidst a WW II or Cold War backdrop. Bond doesn't have that luxury, however, as he has to keep adapting to our world at every step. It's just harder to make these films now that the world is a lot scarier and more messy in terms of what it lacks in simplicity.

    To quote M in Casino Royale, "Christ, I miss the Cold War."
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Most of the general public don't really care about Blofeld. He's just another super villain to them. They associate super villains with Bond films, and there have been many excellent ones over the years. The film series audience is not, for the most part, the novel audience.

    Therefore they will have to be very careful in how they use this character going forward, because inevitable comparisons to super villains of the past will occur. In fact, I'm sure that happened in the minds of viewers during SP. When we've had villains who've gone for global domination in the past, having one whose ambition is limited to fiddling about with surveillance and authoring Bond's pain like a spoiled brat seems quaint and frankly unambitious.

    Reality is far more intriguing, especially these days. So I can appreciate P&W's point about the dilemma facing them in terms of where to go with this. We tend to get caught up in our little world here sometime, but ultimately, they are writing for a global audience of varying knowledge levels regarding the Bond universe.
    The easiest would be to just put in some grand villain, I don´t see how there should be any dilemma for the writers. Just pick up where CR and QoS left, and make it a bit more flamboyant. Mendes´ two Bond films were financially very successful, but they had not much to do with the rest of the series, nor did they have much connection with reality, which even shows in Mendes´ knack for the absence of people in places where you would expect more of them.

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited April 2017 Posts: 23,883
    boldfinger wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Most of the general public don't really care about Blofeld. He's just another super villain to them. They associate super villains with Bond films, and there have been many excellent ones over the years. The film series audience is not, for the most part, the novel audience.

    Therefore they will have to be very careful in how they use this character going forward, because inevitable comparisons to super villains of the past will occur. In fact, I'm sure that happened in the minds of viewers during SP. When we've had villains who've gone for global domination in the past, having one whose ambition is limited to fiddling about with surveillance and authoring Bond's pain like a spoiled brat seems quaint and frankly unambitious.

    Reality is far more intriguing, especially these days. So I can appreciate P&W's point about the dilemma facing them in terms of where to go with this. We tend to get caught up in our little world here sometime, but ultimately, they are writing for a global audience of varying knowledge levels regarding the Bond universe.
    The easiest would be to just put in some grand villain, I don´t see how there should be any dilemma for the writers. Just pick up where CR and QoS left, and make it a bit more flamboyant. Mendes´ two Bond films were financially very successful, but they had not much to do with the rest of the series, nor did they have much connection with reality, which even shows in Mendes´ knack for the absence of people in places where you would expect more of them.
    I agree with the bolded. That would definitely work. Flamboyance is a key ingredient combined with some long lost & longed for "bon vivant".
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    bondjames wrote: »
    boldfinger wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Most of the general public don't really care about Blofeld. He's just another super villain to them. They associate super villains with Bond films, and there have been many excellent ones over the years. The film series audience is not, for the most part, the novel audience.

    Therefore they will have to be very careful in how they use this character going forward, because inevitable comparisons to super villains of the past will occur. In fact, I'm sure that happened in the minds of viewers during SP. When we've had villains who've gone for global domination in the past, having one whose ambition is limited to fiddling about with surveillance and authoring Bond's pain like a spoiled brat seems quaint and frankly unambitious.

    Reality is far more intriguing, especially these days. So I can appreciate P&W's point about the dilemma facing them in terms of where to go with this. We tend to get caught up in our little world here sometime, but ultimately, they are writing for a global audience of varying knowledge levels regarding the Bond universe.
    The easiest would be to just put in some grand villain, I don´t see how there should be any dilemma for the writers. Just pick up where CR and QoS left, and make it a bit more flamboyant. Mendes´ two Bond films were financially very successful, but they had not much to do with the rest of the series, nor did they have much connection with reality, which even shows in Mendes´ knack for the absence of people in places where you would expect more of them.
    I agree with the bolded. That would definitely work. Flamboyance is a key ingredient combined with some long lost & longed for "bon vivant".
    CR and QoS show to a certain degree a development towards more "bon vivant". After QoS, I was seriously expecting a return to that as a logical step, and not The Dark Bond and The Dark Bond Rises.

  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
    edited April 2017 Posts: 2,138

    jfreewright Eh, who's that brother? #007


    That made me grin. I hope there's some actual purpose behind that, and Wright knows something we don't. We haven't seen old Felix since QoS, and with his mention in SP you'd hope they'd write him into the action in a sensible way once the last Craig film rolled around. We could also be privy to a discussion between the two, something along the lines of, "Hey James, that Lucia you sent my way was quite the fox."

    As for Bond films post-Craig, I think clean slate is better. I love Whishaw as Q especially, but they need to get no-names with lower paychecks to play the MI6 family so they don't feel forced to write them into the story more to justify their massive incomes off the films. I honestly miss the days where it was just Craig Bond and M, but I don't think we'll see that again. We got only two films away from the formula of the MI6 family, and that wasn't long enough.

    When it comes to Blofeld, I really don't want to see him again in any shape or form after this. They would've had to introduce him from the beginning of an era to the end, and had a plan throughout for each film to tie it up nicely in a climactic way. They didn't do it in the 60s and it failed, and they weren't able to do that in the 2000s because of the rights issue. I would only want to see an era explore SPECTRE in full if it started with Bond only hearing the name of the organization in the first mission, slowly leading to his discovery of its members and possible leader. The last film/s would then reveal that SPECTRE has dug itself into every major intelligence agency in the world, and Bond spends an entire film paranoid of who is bought in his midst.

    They could still work with this idea of SPECTRE being inside MI6 for Bond 25, to explain a Blofeld escape or something of that fashion. I'd love to see a Craig Bond return to the fight at MI6 to find he can't trust anyone.

    In Spectre Bond did arrange for Felix to extract Lucia to safety, if there is a continuation it may well be both returning.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Yep, and in Logan's drafts, Felix actually had a part.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Didn't he call Moneypenny "foxy", or something to that effect?
  • jake24 wrote: »
    Didn't he call Moneypenny "foxy", or something to that effect?

    "Foxy lady."
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Terrific.
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    Red_Snow wrote: »

    This sadly for me is the only reason that Bond will not come out in 2018. Up until this news broke a few weeks ago? I was still confident it would be a 2018 release, now I am feeling a little nervous and annoyed!
  • edited April 2017 Posts: 4,622
    Returning Felix is a cracking good idea. He did get a reference in the last film, and if Wright wants to be the first actor to play Felix 3x, even better.
    Looking forward to another round of Bond vs Blofeld in B25. Don't​ really care what the story is about, I just love Bond battling Blofeld and Spectre, like the Uncle agents ongoing operations against the forces of Thrush, which was inspired by 007 vs Spectre anyway.
    As we learned in SP, Spectre is everywhere.
    I look forward to Bonds continued efforts against this persistent threat to global stability and security.
    After this second go-round of Craig and Waltz in the lead roles, I look forward to fresh castings of Blofeld and a new young and energized Bond casting.
    Going forward Blofeld can be lead villain, or bg villain ala FRWL or TB, or not even mentioned, as in a DN type scenario with Spectre only referenced in passing.
    Even though I found the torture scene in SP somewhat tedious, there was no one happier in all of Bondom, than moi, with the reveal of white cat and it's deranged owner, one Ernst Stavro Blofeld.
    Awesome!
    Great response from Craig "catchy name"
    Craig can play glib, smartass Bond quite well.
    Craig played Bond so well in SP, I'd be ok if he stuck around for two more pictures.
    Then recast.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    I've long hoped to see Wright return as Felix, but I really hope this doesn't mean they'll bring back Lucia Sciarra and continue with that story line.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Red_Snow wrote: »
    I've long hoped to see Wright return as Felix, but I really hope this doesn't mean they'll bring back Lucia Sciarra and continue with that story line.

    I don't see that happening. It'll probably be addressing between Bond and Felix, just to connect the last film, where Felix will say she's doing fine away from SPECTRE's control. Or the worst case, where SPECTRE finds her and kills her, leaving Felix to contact Bond about a returning SPECTRE threat. It was nice to see a woman in that position make it out alive, so I'd like to see Lucia retire comfortably to safety.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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  • QuantumOrganizationQuantumOrganization We have people everywhere
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    You do know the more people promote Aidan Turner as Bond the less likely he will become Bond?

  • QuantumOrganizationQuantumOrganization We have people everywhere
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    I think making Gregory Beam into the the main villain as a newly elected senator or something while working for SPECTRE would be cool.
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