No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • peterpeter Toronto
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    bondjames wrote: »
    It took them begging Mendes to return to make Craig happy to do SPECTRE, god knows what they'll have to promise get him back for a fifth time.
    You've answered it. Mendes. Wait for the announcement.

    Mendes is gone for good. He almost walked off of SP, it was a long shoot, filled with troubles, and his slate is full; there's no way in Hell he's coming back for 25.
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    Fun fun! fun!!!! Good old IMDB know how to get this thread rocking! lol!
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited May 2017 Posts: 23,883
    Germanlady wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    I also think B25 should be a new Bond in a stand-alone mission-based film.

    Time to stop any bloody story arcs,which it would be if Craig came back.
    CraigBond's story arc has been completed,it was a totally farewell ending...put Blofeld on ice and move on !!!!

    True. And despite how many Craig devotees insist there is still more story to tell, I think the audience was satisfied, or perhaps relieved that it ended the way it did. Better than some of the other tenures, they avoided the complete strikeout at the end. I repeat again, it could have ended much worse!

    Now is the time to think to the future.
    Fully agreed, but will Babs take the hint?

    Or will she stick with her proven thoroughbred? Will the distribution deal influence the decision? All likely imho.

    Get a room, you two.
    If I hadnt known bondjames for quite a while, I would think, its Mendes talking to his clone. All the time. I am starting to wait for bondjames approving answer every Time our puppy is barking.
    What are you on about? He made points above which I agree with. This is a speculation thread and that's what we're doing. If you have a different opinion, chime in.

    Or are you suggesting that we should disagree with everything that @Mendes4Lyfe says? I don't, although I take issue with his continued adamant advocacy for Turner as Bond.
    peter wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    It took them begging Mendes to return to make Craig happy to do SPECTRE, god knows what they'll have to promise get him back for a fifth time.
    You've answered it. Mendes. Wait for the announcement.

    Mendes is gone for good. He almost walked off of SP, it was a long shoot, filled with troubles, and his slate is full; there's no way in Hell he's coming back for 25.
    @RC7, could you give us your thoughts? Are you at liberty to put this to bed once and for all re: Mendes's possible return.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    It took them begging Mendes to return to make Craig happy to do SPECTRE, god knows what they'll have to promise get him back for a fifth time.
    You've answered it. Mendes. Wait for the announcement.

    What % would you give Mendes coming back?
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,509
    fjdinardo wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    It took them begging Mendes to return to make Craig happy to do SPECTRE, god knows what they'll have to promise get him back for a fifth time.
    You've answered it. Mendes. Wait for the announcement.

    What % would you give Mendes coming back?

    0%
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    fjdinardo wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    It took them begging Mendes to return to make Craig happy to do SPECTRE, god knows what they'll have to promise get him back for a fifth time.
    You've answered it. Mendes. Wait for the announcement.

    What % would you give Mendes coming back?
    Until I'm told otherwise by EON or others in the know, 65-70% if Craig is back. 0% without Craig.
  • RC7RC7
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Germanlady wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    I also think B25 should be a new Bond in a stand-alone mission-based film.

    Time to stop any bloody story arcs,which it would be if Craig came back.
    CraigBond's story arc has been completed,it was a totally farewell ending...put Blofeld on ice and move on !!!!

    True. And despite how many Craig devotees insist there is still more story to tell, I think the audience was satisfied, or perhaps relieved that it ended the way it did. Better than some of the other tenures, they avoided the complete strikeout at the end. I repeat again, it could have ended much worse!

    Now is the time to think to the future.
    Fully agreed, but will Babs take the hint?

    Or will she stick with her proven thoroughbred? Will the distribution deal influence the decision? All likely imho.

    Get a room, you two.
    If I hadnt known bondjames for quite a while, I would think, its Mendes talking to his clone. All the time. I am starting to wait for bondjames approving answer every Time our puppy is barking.
    What are you on about? He made points above which I agree with. This is a speculation thread and that's what we're doing. If you have a different opinion, chime in.

    Or are you suggesting that we should disagree with everything that @Mendes4Lyfe says? I don't, although I take issue with his continued adamant advocacy for Turner as Bond.
    peter wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    It took them begging Mendes to return to make Craig happy to do SPECTRE, god knows what they'll have to promise get him back for a fifth time.
    You've answered it. Mendes. Wait for the announcement.

    Mendes is gone for good. He almost walked off of SP, it was a long shoot, filled with troubles, and his slate is full; there's no way in Hell he's coming back for 25.
    @RC7, could you give us your thoughts? Are you at liberty to put this to bed once and for all re: Mendes's possible return.

    I've heard nothing of Mendes' return. I've heard several things re. B25 and none concern him. Wish I could be more definitive, but I can't . Right now I'd say 90% chance Mendes won't return.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    RC7 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Germanlady wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    I also think B25 should be a new Bond in a stand-alone mission-based film.

    Time to stop any bloody story arcs,which it would be if Craig came back.
    CraigBond's story arc has been completed,it was a totally farewell ending...put Blofeld on ice and move on !!!!

    True. And despite how many Craig devotees insist there is still more story to tell, I think the audience was satisfied, or perhaps relieved that it ended the way it did. Better than some of the other tenures, they avoided the complete strikeout at the end. I repeat again, it could have ended much worse!

    Now is the time to think to the future.
    Fully agreed, but will Babs take the hint?

    Or will she stick with her proven thoroughbred? Will the distribution deal influence the decision? All likely imho.

    Get a room, you two.
    If I hadnt known bondjames for quite a while, I would think, its Mendes talking to his clone. All the time. I am starting to wait for bondjames approving answer every Time our puppy is barking.
    What are you on about? He made points above which I agree with. This is a speculation thread and that's what we're doing. If you have a different opinion, chime in.

    Or are you suggesting that we should disagree with everything that @Mendes4Lyfe says? I don't, although I take issue with his continued adamant advocacy for Turner as Bond.
    peter wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    It took them begging Mendes to return to make Craig happy to do SPECTRE, god knows what they'll have to promise get him back for a fifth time.
    You've answered it. Mendes. Wait for the announcement.

    Mendes is gone for good. He almost walked off of SP, it was a long shoot, filled with troubles, and his slate is full; there's no way in Hell he's coming back for 25.
    @RC7, could you give us your thoughts? Are you at liberty to put this to bed once and for all re: Mendes's possible return.

    I've heard nothing of Mendes' return. I've heard several things re. B25 and none concern him. Wish I could be more definitive, but I can't . Right now I'd say 90% chance Mendes won't return.
    Thanks for that. I understand the need for confidentiality. Ok, then I revise my estimate to 90% chance he won't return.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
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    I did say that the Syncopy listing was only there due to the ancient rumours of Nolan directing, rumours that go back to Spectre's pre-production - but no, you all had to start a Twitter storm ...
  • RC7RC7
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    tanaka123 wrote: »
    I did say that the Syncopy listing was only there due to the ancient rumours of Nolan directing, rumours that go back to Spectre's pre-production - but no, you all had to start a Twitter storm ...

    Always the same. It's boring every time.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    edited May 2017 Posts: 9,509
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »

    He would never do another Bond looking like that: he would be given the best trainers and diet to get back in shape. After all, he's an actor, he is not Bond... Part of the training itself will get him back in character.

    This is not the early 70s where the producers would let an out of shape Sean, or Roger, with man-boobs, play a leading man.

    DC will be whipped into shape, and fast.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    As far as Craig's conditioning, he could be ready in a month, month and a half tops, no problem

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    talos7 wrote: »
    As far as Craig's conditioning, he could be ready in a month, month and a half tops, no problem

    Muscle memory is a wonderful thing

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    If he is not in shape by this fall then you know the next one isnt coming in 2018.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Doesn't he have a tv show to do sometime soon? Surely he would have to be at a certain weight and fitness level for that depending on what the role entails.
  • edited May 2017 Posts: 6,432
    Tuck91 wrote: »
    If he is not in shape by this fall then you know the next one isnt coming in 2018.

    I have trained for twenty years even when relatively unfit I am in good shape, it's easy to gain muscle mass and improve cardio with intensive training. Craig has trained during filming before prime example is how he bulks up for most of the second half of CR, Craigs muscle mass gain is very noticeable in CR.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Wasn't he bulked up for all of CR?
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Isn't he bulked up for all of CR?

    Craig is alot leaner during the airport sequence.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Isn't he bulked up for all of CR?

    Craig is alot leaner during the airport sequence.
    I had never noticed that. I will look out for it when I next see the film.
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  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Thanks. I did notice that actually, but I just thought it was because he was wearing a suit. Some of these chaps who've spent inordinate amounts of time in a gym bust out around the neck area when wearing a suit and tie, which is what I thought I was seeing.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Wasn't he bulked up for all of CR?

    Daniel was the same throughout the production. No doubt he put his time in the gym and he realistically represents someone with an active military background.

    The only time he looks "bulked-is when he emerges from the water; this is due to how he is framed in the shot and the lighting. Look at him when he pretends to be the parking attendant and later when he's working on his computer in his room at The Ocean Club. He's lean and muscular but not bulky in the least.

    I've worked on quite a few photo shoot, both behind and in front of the camera. The camera and lighting can change ones appearance even during the same shoot.

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  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Seems like only 10 years ago Craig was commenting to the press that he had stopped working out
    because he didn't want to become known as "the fit Bond".
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    @fire_and_ice Stop posting images from the Bond films directly. You should know by now, links only.
  • edited May 2017 Posts: 6,432
    Benny wrote: »
    @fire_and_ice Stop posting images from the Bond films directly. You should know by now, links only.

    No problem I'll delete them, direct images are frequently posted on this site from films did not realise.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    You can link the images as I had changed them too. and post images from non Bond films.
    The simple rule is no Bond images, videos or posters. If it's owned by EON, then we respect their wishes.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Gumbold wrote: »
    Troy wrote: »
    I just don't get what people see in Hardy. Fantastic talent, but Bond?

    Why not? Got the charisma, physical presence, and a great actor so could adopt the necessary persona. Any moped-stealing Bond-baddie had better watch out

    He just doesn't have that thing about him. I've had this debate elsewhere recently, and the way I could explain it in my head is that all the Bonds we have look like they'd give a straight and fair fight, whereas Hardy seems like he'd go right for the bullocks. Our 6 Bonds feel like they'd play games for sport at nice casinos or game halls in fine suits, whereas Hardy looks like he'd frequent a dilapidated bar with a pool table in a rough part of London where he'd smashed glasses and stick anyone who bad mouthed him, all while wearing baddy jeans and a torn up jacket.

    He lacks that eloquence and sense of style that all the Bond actors have, with only Tim being an obvious weak link. Sean was the style icon, George had a playboy sense, Roger looked like a government aristocrat, Tim could rock the moody dark suits despite a lack of apparent style, Pierce looked born for suits in many capacities and Dan feels at home in anything they put him in, despite his thug reputation pre-Bond. When I see Hardy, I just don't find he'd pull any of that off. When I think of his wheelhouse, grungy roles come to mind where he's hairy, dirty, bloodied or feral. He's obviously a transformative actor, but I think he's far too rough to be smoothed out into a good Bond. Dan has the roughest looks of all the Bond actors, but he is able to command a certain posture of eloquence and style and his voice also signals a certain propriety and strong character. He makes it easy for you to take the leap and say, "Yes, this can be Bond." Hardy's Bond just seems like he'd be a potty mouth, with his rough accent always saying, "Piss off" or "Let's get knackered" while having a martini at a bar. To borrow a word from Anthony Horowitz, he's very street. More of a Liverpool hooligan than a Savile Row man of high character.

    Nothing wrong with that, as I love him in all kinds of roles. I just don't think Bond is one of those particular parts for his abilities and overall look.

    You're making assumptions before having seen him in the role of James Bond. I say give him a chance. I definitely think I would like Hardy more than Craig. With Craig you can just tell he doesn't really give a shit about the role, and he's very afraid to make a fool out of himself. He's holding back, in my opinion.

    Makes sense to me. Craig has been cagey about the role from the beginning, looking for how he will leave from the moment he arrived. The notion he will return to Bond just because he is good friends with Barbara is ludicrous. It took them begging Mendes to return to make Craig happy to do SPECTRE, god knows what they'll have to promise to get him back for a fifth time.

    Your penchant for making your fantasy a supposed reality is often concerning, and even more so that you actually seem to believe this stuff. I was simply hoping that the delusions and myopic awareness you've expressed were only responsible for creating in your head the notion of Turner being the next Bond, and nothing else. Like a cancer, it spreads...
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