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How am I being ungrateful when I'm merely stating an opinion? Nolan made an over-melodramatic police drama using the Batman label. And the only entry I love in the trilogy is the first one, which was perfect. And then... we have the other two. Where the films tell you how hard life is, how superheroes can't cope like superheroes in real life, etc. I got my Batman: The Animated Series to watch instead. That's my Batman.
And even though people are hating on the Batfleck to no end, I loved it so far. Not sure if it will keep satisfying me, but at least he's veteran and experienced as opposed to the Bale/Nolan Batman who's often ending up getting his arse handed to him over wrong choices.
Like Murdock, I am far from being a fan of the Nolan Batman trilogy. Call me ungrateful if you like. It won't change my mind. And I certainly don't want a miserable atmosphere like that in the Bond films. Skyfall was enough.
The various incarnations of Batman are something that I've watched from afar with a strange curiosity. I'm not a fan of anything to do with superheroes, but it's always troubled me to see how the series fell from a place a levity and fun with the Adam West TV series, to a dark, depressing place with the Nolan films. I hope this never happens to Bond.
Having said that, he won't be Bond because he's too old now.
I stomached Schumacher's first and thought, for what it was Carrey was quite superb as Riddler...
I still don't think I've watched Clooney's mess from beginning to end...
On the flip-side: I do love Nolan's work. He took imagery from a comic book and made allegory.
Did Aiden Turner birth you or something. I see no point in pushing this any longer.
First, there was the alakine counter-punch of QoS, increasingly well received amongst hardcore fans for being the bullet to the previous film's heart.
Since then, his arc has been comprehensively botched. The fact an arc was created at all was a surefire sign he would be painted into a corner.
The ravages of ageing? Tick.
The death of a close and trusted colleague? Tick.
A nod to the past? Tick.
Unsanctioned work off the grid? Tick.
Dunno where he goes next. Not sure EON can extricate him from the past.
Not since Casino Royale has a forthcoming film been so up against it (if DC returns).
One of the all time great posts on here. So true.
So he,along with EON,have both pushed themselves into a corner.
True Barry. Craig is a co-producer and has always been very involved. He should shoulder same of the blame too.
You don't risk the future of the series on a new actor, when Craig has delivered four films each making a ton of money.
Casino Royale - $599 million
Quantum Of Solace - $586 million
Skyfall - $1.1 billion
Spectre - $899 million.
These are not average or worrying figures to any franchise. He has an audience. I'd be surprised if they don't dangle a juicy carrot in front of Mr.Craig to return.
Sooner or later they are going to cast a New actor anyway.....
DC will only return for 1 more film anyway.
Maybe they'll call it Swann Song.
@Risico007, We should probably duke this out in more appropriate threads like the Sience thread. I'd be happy to lay waste to the bible there. ;-) When you feel like it. :)
As for Bond25, I'm glad many here are naturally cautious not to instantly believe everything they read online.
Declining profitability did Brozza in as much as the need to reboot due to excesses.
Sorry Darth - one of your fellow Mods deemed it a verboten subject for discussion and not only closed the thread I created (at Risioc007's instigation) but deleted it from existence.
Also something to note is that back in 06/08 everyone was very happy with making $600m. It was only with the freakish success of SF that Bond was suddenly seen as a billion dollar per film franchise when it never had been. It seems that it was the desperation to recapture this $1b figure that was the guiding principle behind every decision made on SP from begging Mendes to return to coming up with another deeply personal angle to spunking a ridiculous $250 on the film.
They just need to set out to make as good a film as they can which is all they did with CR the money will come. If chasing a billion per film is all they care about then we might as well be watching Transformers. Before you know it every scene is being dissected not for what it adds to the story but how it might play in the Chinese market or some other such crap.
In a way they are really boxed in at present, to some extent due to their own mistakes (brothergate) but also due to their own success. As long as Craig is in the role there will be inevitable pressure on them to deliver the next SF. The remnants of 'wrist slash' will also linger.
Tricky situation.
Maybe the best thing then is to let him go and wipe the slate clean?
A big call though to ditch the most bankable Bond since Connery. Nor sure I'd be brave enough to turn my back on a guaranteed $700m+ from DC to gamble on a Hiddlestone or Turner.
I'm not sure who they want to go with next, but I really feel they're boxed in with Craig. They will have to contort to get out of this, and one wonders if it's worth it for one film with him (the most they'll get) or whether they should just cut the cord now and move on.
Irrespective, I'm intrigued to see what they do. It's not an easy call.
And it would still have been a perfect storm if Brosnan had been sitting in the boat.
Indeed, one could just as easily attribute the success of SF/SP (again, keep in mind the decline for the latter, which was somewhat precipitous) to Mendes rather than Craig.
If they come back with Craig, they'll have to try something very different. A sort of MR to FYEO move.