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... Craig is still thinking about it.
Let's go for all Q titles for the next couple:
Quiver of Arrows
Quaint Apartment
Quan the Anarchist
Quayle, Dan Quayle
Queen and Country
Ah thats a great title. Far better than shatterhand and if its a remake of OHMSS then its a fun name to go along with that
Same. Only 26 maybe and even then it's a stretch.
You're right. Thumbs Up :)
Well its not like P and W have the ability to make original stories without the help of an original Fleming novel
You must hold firm to the one true faith.
Just think how long those Christians have been waiting for the Second Coming, and they're still going relatively strong after 2000 years.
Just hold onto the fact that we're much more likely to see another Bond movie within our lifetimes than we are to see the return of Jesus Christ. Surely there's some solace to be taken from this (almost) certainty.
Quality will prevail. Eventually. When they get rid of Purvis and Wade.
I understand the concerns and share them; I'm hopeful they won't go full-OHMSS for Bond 25. If they listened to the fans at all, they'd realize SP isn't as well-liked because of it trying to be too personal or emotional. Though I have really enjoyed the Craig era - SP included, I think most of us are ready for something less along the lines of "this time it's personal" and something more traditional. While SP is the most traditional Bond film of Craig's era, it still does use unnecessary plot points for emotional value, like the foster brother thing or recalling Vesper.
As for Swann saving Bond, I think she was referring to when she uses the explosive watch as Bond is being tortured. "Doesn't need him" goes too far obviously since Bond saves her big time near the end of the movie. Anyway, I just really hope the next Bond film is less emotionally-oriented.
That film is damn near perfect and there is no way they can better it.
Im sick to high heaven of all the callbacks they have done to previous Bond films that have crept in to the last 3 entries.
I agree. I mean let's face it, two of Craig's best films have similar kind of deeper drama. The loss of Vesper Lynd in CR, which really could be seen as Craig's OHMSS. And the loss of 'mother' 'M' in SF. Both films are, together with OHMSS, the most dramatic Bond outings.
What Craig needs now is a 'fun' film, with trendsetting action. Hence I really felt....adament to write something by myself. I just urgen the official Bond writers to find the 'fun' again! Be creative, get inspired, look at us Bond fans in here!!!
On a serious note, I really wished that Broccoli and co had the cojones to move on without Craig, especially as he's not too concerned about reprising his role unless he's given an incredibly long sabbatical to recharge his creative juices. It kind of reminds me of the late Roger Moore years when Cubby was too scared to replace Moore for fear of poor BO results. But at least with RM he didn't dictate to Eon when the next movie should be made, he quickly signed on and got the ball moving swiftly. The same cannot be said of the current star.
I think the continuous timeline-thing isn't the big issue here. Certainly not for Bond #25. The thing is, they simply have to nail it this time from a writer's perspective. That's how I see it. Neal Purvis and Robert Wade need to stop moaning saying that "the whole world is now full of Blofeld's and Silva's now, so....ehhh....we don't know what to do". That's, to me as a Bond fan, a real pain in the ass!! They need to get a proverbial kick under the butt from Babs and Michael, old-school style!
So having said that, I kep saying all the time that there's plentiful inspiration you can draw from the original Fleming novels or even the continuation novels. What about a quick, fast, yet believable love relationship break-up during the first 30 mins of the new film?? I honestly believe that both Daniel Craig and Lea Seydoux can pull that off. They simply have to read what Tiffany Case did at the start of the novel "From Russia With Love". Or what Pussy Galore did at the start of "Trigger Mortis".
I think it would be challenging and both great to make the viewers believe that Bond simply isn't the right man (not yet) to get into a full-blown love relationship! And with it I want to see Craig's Bond to act a bit like a real prick to Madeleine, so you actually think "Sjee man, you're fucking rude!!". By doing so you could also create an atmosphere like "Damn, glad Bond dumped her finally!".
Something like that has NEVER been done before in a Bond film. And by maintaining this kind of continuity, you could actually re-focus very fast on Bond's mission during the remainder of the 120 mins of the film; you could re-focus on the standalone quality of the story! Tada! It's simple. Neal Purvis & Robert Wade simply need to become as inspired as we Bond fans are!!
I don't go to a Bond film to watch this soap opera shite.
If we're going get rid of the Madeline elephant in the room then by all means have one line with MP that it didn't work but I don't want to have to sit through this mundane break up.
Apart from anything else it serves to do nothing narratively for the story if we spend the first 30 mins watching this rubbish play our before Bond gets on with the mission.
Then in hindsight you also think many of Ian Fleming's stories are 'soap opera shite' as well. Since I got that inspiration from the novels. Thank you for burning down a nice idea. It could work, and I honestly believe that.
I mean, come on. This could be a scene of perhaps 10 mins, if done correctly and accurately. All I said is that this part needs to take place at the start of the film, preferably during the first 30 mins. But the scene in itself could be less than 10 mins.
Runtime for me is such a quantity issue. If writing is done perfectly a film could be 120 mins for me until even 150 mins. As long as the movie 'flows'. The relatively long "Casino Royale" flows perfectly, so did "OHMSS". But the shorter "Doctor No" and "From Russia With Love" also had a great 'flow'.
Well I just looked it up and in a 337 page book Fleming covers it in half a page when Bond is having breakfast in his flat and another half page of chat with M - a total of one whole page. That's less than a third of 1% of the 'running time' of the book which in a 120 min film would come in somewhere around the 20 second mark which is exactly the way to deal with it. We really do not need Lea Seydoux brought back for half an hour of slanging matches with Bond like something out of Eastenders that doesnt serve the plot in any way.
That type of scenario has no place in a Bond film, unfortunately.
@Gustav_Graves it is always nice to hear someone try to come up with an idea though. Don't be deterred on sharing if you come up with more.
Just because this one probably doesn't work, there may be one you have that does.
As Bond would say; "Drop the act." You just copy words from members of ajb007 and pretend like it's some exclusive news. I wouldn't care if these assumptions did come true, but the harsh reality is that they haven't, and you frequently update your 'news' to fit the current model.
Is this thread the place to share personal ideas for Bond 25, or even to share some ideas for improving earlier Bond films?
Perhaps a mod could comment? I don't wish to annoy anyone by going off topic.
Thank Christ you don't work for EON then. (I hope. If you do and are just floating this idea to see what the fan community thinks - it's bollocks).
Somewhere during the first 30 mins of the film you could spend less than 10 mins on such a scene. Perhaps 6 mins. That's what I said, Sadly you make it sound like I want to create a 30 min episode of Eastenders. Which is wrong. In "Trigger Mortis" it's nicely done by the way.
After all, he left the Service. So where is he, and how does he get back into "the game"?
I think Fleming's Bond would have busted up with Maddy long ago. And because he's stubborn and had doubts about his job in the past, he's probably living out his pension by drinking, seducing married women, and gambling his days away.
But he'd be bored and a little unfocused.
Meanwhile, some of his senses would be dull. And he doesn't realize that he's been tracked down from someone in his past.
I mentioned this a couple months back, but it's Camille who's tracked him down. She needs his help. Whatever that may be, it shakes Bond out of his doldrums, and this meeting between them's the catalyst to the bigger story.
So, no mention of Maddy. It'd be a way of bringing in an exceptional Bond girl. And, IF they're doing a two-part send-off for Craig (I can't see it happening, but I've been wrong many times before), with links to YOLT and OHMSS (still don't see it), I could see Bond falling in love with Camille, and I could see her death having an impact (since she and Craig were good together on screen, and as an actress, I find her stronger than Lea).
Only my two cents, have at it.