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Amy Pascal steps down at Sony, will be a producer

AlexanderWaverlyAlexanderWaverly
edited February 2015 in News Posts: 2,115
DELETED...it's in the spoiler thread

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  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    What does that spoil? Other than Elba s chances of becoming Bond.
  • timmertimmer
    edited February 2015 Posts: 4,622
    AlexanderWaverly wrote:
    DELETED...it's in the spoiler thread

    That's OK, only the SP informed go there.
    The others, SP speculators can read here.
    Shame about Elba. Tough break. ~O)
  • JCRendleJCRendle
    Posts: 1,552
    You never know, she could have planted the seed - the germ of the idea could right now be growing in the minds of the studio, the producers, Debbie McWilliams etc.

    Or maybe not
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
    Posts: 13,384
    I did laugh at the news, as she put out a statement that she had been thinking
    Of leaving for a while, ever since the leak, I'd guess! :))
  • AlexanderWaverlyAlexanderWaverly
    Posts: 2,115
    Here's the HMSS Weblog post, which put Pascal's departure in a 007 context:

    https://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2015/02/05/amy-pascal-steps-down-at-sony/
  • AlexanderWaverlyAlexanderWaverly
    Posts: 2,115
    The main thing is that Pascal was an ally of Barbara Broccoli's, most recently concerning SPECTRE's budget (not a spoiler in terms of the storyline).
  • bondbat007bondbat007
    Posts: 1,407
    Since this will most likely be the last Sony produced Bond film, it's of little concern. Their deal expires after Spectre and I feel that either MGM/EON will go solo on the next one, or another distributor will be brought in.
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
    Posts: 12,526
    It was only a matter of time after the fiasco of the hacking scandal!
  • CrabKeyCrabKey
    Posts: 1,993
    No sympathy here. Most of us workaday folks would have been out the door without
    notice or a severance package. It doesn't take a genius--but then again maybe it does--to know you don't use company computers to send private messages, especially those that are derogatory. I wouldn't worry too much about her, I doubt you'll see her in the unemployment line.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 15,122
    I can't say I'm sorry to see her go.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I can't say I'm sorry to see her go.
    Neither can I.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    And nothing of value was lost.
  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly
    edited February 2015 Posts: 3,327
    Good riddance is what I say. Anyone who starts spouting drivel about a black man should be playing James Bond, and thinking her opinion carries any weight, should be fired.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    jetsetwilly wrote: »
    Good riddance is what I say. Anyone who starts spouting drivel about a black man should be playing James Bond, and thinking her opinion carries any weight, should be fired.

    Burn her as a witch.
  • MrcogginsMrcoggins Following in the footsteps of Quentin Quigley.
    Posts: 3,144
    RC7 wrote: »
    jetsetwilly wrote: »
    Good riddance is what I say. Anyone who starts spouting drivel about a black man should be playing James Bond, and thinking her opinion carries any weight, should be fired.

    Burn her as a witch.

    Just a little on the harsh side !.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    Mrcoggins wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    jetsetwilly wrote: »
    Good riddance is what I say. Anyone who starts spouting drivel about a black man should be playing James Bond, and thinking her opinion carries any weight, should be fired.

    Burn her as a witch.

    Just a little on the harsh side !.

    Sarcasm.
  • JCRendleJCRendle
    Posts: 1,552
    Before all this, I was under the impression that she was thought of quite positively by Bond fans?
  • MrcogginsMrcoggins Following in the footsteps of Quentin Quigley.
    edited February 2015 Posts: 3,144
    JCRendle wrote: »
    Before all this, I was under the impression that she was thought of quite positively by Bond fans?

    Quite so and to be fair whatever came to light re the leaking of emails after Sony was Broken into is nobody's business but the people who are involved in those emails
    Let us not forget that Amy Pascal has proved over her time at Sony to be a great friend and a firm supporter of both MGW &BB and the Bond Films
    Many people including myself wish her well.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 15,122
    Mrcoggins wrote: »
    JCRendle wrote: »
    Before all this, I was under the impression that she was thought of quite positively by Bond fans?

    Quite so and to be fair whatever came to light re the leaking of emails after Sony was Broken into is nobody's business but the people who are involved in those emails
    Let us not forget that Amy Pascal has proved over her time at Sony to be a great friend and a firm supporter of both MGW &BB and the Bond Films
    Many people including myself wish her well.

    I just found her really crass to talk about Craig's successor, or maybe even replacement, when he still has the role and his fourth one has not even been released yet.

    That and whatever Idris Elba's values as an actor, he will be too old to succeed to Craig.
  • MrcogginsMrcoggins Following in the footsteps of Quentin Quigley.
    Posts: 3,144
    Ludo you are right about Elba being too old and to be fair what some might Regard as being Crass is probably just being realistic Bond is a Business after all
  • JCRendleJCRendle
    edited February 2015 Posts: 1,552
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Mrcoggins wrote: »
    JCRendle wrote: »
    Before all this, I was under the impression that she was thought of quite positively by Bond fans?

    Quite so and to be fair whatever came to light re the leaking of emails after Sony was Broken into is nobody's business but the people who are involved in those emails
    Let us not forget that Amy Pascal has proved over her time at Sony to be a great friend and a firm supporter of both MGW &BB and the Bond Films
    Many people including myself wish her well.

    I just found her really crass to talk about Craig's successor, or maybe even replacement, when he still has the role and his fourth one has not even been released yet.

    That and whatever Idris Elba's values as an actor, he will be too old to succeed to Craig.

    It's inevitable that they're going to start considering actors, you never know what's going to happen. Something may happen that means either Craig can't or won't return after SPECTRE - contract or no. Hiring actors in major roles is a long business that involves looking at a wide variety of actors. According to MGW, they initially looked at 200 actors to potentially play Bond in Casino Royale. Am I surprised that they're, however hypothetically, thinking about other actors? No. Daniel Craig may even be putting his penny's worth in on who he thinks may be a good potential Bond.

    You only have to read this thread to see that it's a popular talking point (over 1.1k comments)

    Do we even know the context of the e-mail that she mentioned Idris Elba?
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 15,122
    I understand they are starting considering actors, Craig is not getting any younger. Still, when SPECTRE has not even been released, I find it a bit crass to already say she has the one candidate to replace him. I understand she thought Elba would be fine when Craig's contract finishes. At which time Elba would be too old. Something Amy Pascal should understand.
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    Posts: 4,619
    1. The likelihood of Bond 25 not becoming a Sony Pictures film increased even further with this development.
    2. Amy stepping down doesn't affect Idris Elba's chances of becoming the next Bond at all. (His chances were 0% before, and are 0% now...)
  • AlexanderWaverlyAlexanderWaverly
    Posts: 2,115
    re: context of the email where Amy Pascal references the idea of Elba as the next Bond.

    We don't know the context at all. The Daily Beast wrote about the email. It only quoted the one line. She was corresponding with a former Sony executive who has her own producing deal at the studio. The Daily Beast didn't explain why the subject came up, whether this was a passing reference or if the entire email concerned possible future Bond actors.
  • JCRendleJCRendle
    Posts: 1,552
    AlexanderWaverly wrote: »
    re: context of the email where Amy Pascal references the idea of Elba as the next Bond.

    We don't know the context at all. The Daily Beast wrote about the email. It only quoted the one line. She was corresponding with a former Sony executive who has her own producing deal at the studio. The Daily Beast didn't explain why the subject came up, whether this was a passing reference or if the entire email concerned possible future Bond actors.
    This is what I thought, until we know the context of the email (which I'm sure we never will), we can't say whether the e-mails were "crass" or whether the subject were out of line.

    The comments could have been tongue in cheek, could have been referencing fan speculation, could have been in response to another e-mail that we don't know about - it's all would have, could have, should have - without context, we can't really comment.
  • Perilagu_KhanPerilagu_Khan
    Posts: 2,483
    Good! Travesty averted. At least temporarily. Perhaps.
  • AlexanderWaverlyAlexanderWaverly
    edited February 2015 Posts: 2,115
    Even if it wasn't tongue in cheek, was it a detailed discussion of future Bond actors? Or was most of the email about something else and it was a throwaway line? We don't know.

    Here's the original story. You have to dig a ways to even find the quote.
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/19/exclusive-sony-emails-reveal-studio-head-wants-idris-elba-for-the-next-james-bond.html
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    Interesting that Pascal is being forced out.

    What about that a'hole Scott Rudin. He was the one who made most of the derogatory statements about everyone in the hacked emails but he seems to have survived (which I'm really not surprised about - I was waiting to see if they'd blame it on Pascal only).

    Hollywood has some interesting standards it seems.
  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly
    Posts: 3,327
    RC7 wrote: »
    jetsetwilly wrote: »
    Good riddance is what I say. Anyone who starts spouting drivel about a black man should be playing James Bond, and thinking her opinion carries any weight, should be fired.

    Burn her as a witch.

    I agree.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 15,122
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    1. The likelihood of Bond 25 not becoming a Sony Pictures film increased even further with this development.
    2. Amy stepping down doesn't affect Idris Elba's chances of becoming the next Bond at all. (His chances were 0% before, and are 0% now...)

    My thought exactly.
    AlexanderWaverly wrote: »
    Even if it wasn't tongue in cheek, was it a detailed discussion of future Bond actors? Or was most of the email about something else and it was a throwaway line? We don't know.

    Here's the original story. You have to dig a ways to even find the quote.
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/19/exclusive-sony-emails-reveal-studio-head-wants-idris-elba-for-the-next-james-bond.html

    Maybe I am too harsh with her, but I always thought talking about the next Bond when SP is not even released yet and Craig still on contract for Bond 25 is crass. So was idris Elba's attitude about the whole hypothesis of his candidacy, until he acknowledged that Craig was a great Bond.
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