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I quite agree, but if we're going to throw Mendes under the bus then Forster can go with him. QoS has several redeeming features, but if we're holding that film up as some kind of benchmark, in the words of Danny Dyer, 'I ain't 'avin it'.
"QOS" on the other hand.....Well, when I saw the film for the very first time, it gave me a headache.
Regarding the relationship of Madeleine and Bond. Ehh guys? people would not believe my love relationships :O. On top of that.....good and prosperous love relationships also work if the girl isn't a firm grey-colored double-agent (Vesper) or a near-suicide-driven psychiatric patient (Tracy). Sometimes the best love relationships kick off with a plain, good...fuck (Madeleine) (And for the contents and light I'm using that word, I wish it doesn't get censored).
I'd actually not realised it was one of those insulated appreciation threads, my bad.
I did not rally for an SP-appreciation topic. I merely saw there wasn't one.
Ok. I loved 'M' in Bond's hotel room: "Why HER James! Look how your charm works here..". 'M' almost wants to slap Bond in his face. Loved her performance.
I also liked Jesper: "Uuhhh...YOU don't even know we exist! :-j ". Great actor btw, Mr Christensen.
"Well we do now, Mr. White. *quick smirk*...and we're quick learners."
No problem. I like the fact that we have threads for both appreciating and critically analyzing movies. I think it helps keep things in balance.
Maybe the film is edited too fast (but I would never change a thing about the car chase - what a ballsy opening), but my god is the film beautiful to look at. Some shots are just fantastic and you almost want to freeze-frame to enjoy them. Arnold gave his best soundtrack here.
All in all I am always stunned at this film, as it keeps getting better and better with each viewing I've sat through in the past few years.
I thought the pacing was spot on with Spectre - it seemed to breeze by. I was with everyone in saying that I didn't believe in the 'love story' between Bond and Madeleine. But maybe in Bond 25 that'll be the point - they both want an easy excuse to choose a life different from the one they're living.
The first hour of each of the 4 Craig movies go by so fast it's almost criminal.
I must've missed it, where did you post it? The only "footage" I've ever seen was the BTS look at shooting that alternate ending.
On the previous page. I'm sure some of you have seen it before.
I don't quite understand why a lot of folk think Lea Seydoux and Madeline will return in the next movie as every Bond film more or less has ended with Bond and the leading lady floating/driving/hanging/flying/wining into the sunset as if she is the one for him.
The reset button is always (for the most part) set in the world of Bond as soon as we are relieved to see JAMES BOND WILL RETURN.
with Mr White ! ;)
It's like Escargot to a degree for me. Damn good, but so little of it.
Yes I like the plane scene ...well both of them. Very nuanced ..dialogue... very well done.
But ditto for Bond's martini moment on the second jet. Dialogue realistic and unexpected.
1. Great fight scene between Bond and Slate--I love that Bond wastes this guy in less than a minute. It is Bond at his most bad ass.
2. The chase scene with Mitchell is well choreographed, too.
3. The plot is actually quite realistic, with a tinge of an environmental political statement.
4. The South American desert setting.
5. The scene where Bond and Camille are walking across the desert, to the tune of flamenco guitar. Very original.
6. The Tosca scene, preceded by A Night at the Opera--Arnold's best Bond music.
There are a few cringes. Mostly, I wish the scene between Bond and Camille, on the plane, had been allowed to develop. Their conversation starts going in an intereresting direction and then gets cut short by the jet fighters. Grrrr.
I disagree Elvis was useful, but as a character, not as a henchman. He's the inept employee the boss tolerates and his weird appearance makes up for the more banal one of Greene (although I find Amalric's eyes striking ).
Always happy to see new faces share their love for QoS. My fellow vets and I began the thread in a lonely fashion, but over time we saw less and less of posters straining to think of positives, and now we've got a boatload of extremely dedicated QoS fans that can't say enough about it. I count myself in that number, very proudly. This film and I have had a rough past, but over time it has become one of my go-to Bond adventures. It does things other Bonds haven't dared to do, and after SF and SP, certain scenes in it still remain at the top of the barrel:
Siena chase
Bond v. Slate
Tosca Opera
Bond and Mathis on the plane
Mathis' death
M and Bond in hotel room
We get to actually see Bond go through the grieving process bit by bit, and see him continue to develop from CR. Some may disown it while uplifting SF and SP, but the truth is that we wouldn't have gotten those films with that Bond if QoS didn't develop him further as an agent and man before them. It's a necessary part of the ongoing saga and a pivotal point in Bond's development, and for my money, a deep and enriching ride. Of course, we all know this, but it bears repeating. ;)
I can see the logic, but I find it hard to invest in the action in this movie which is perhaps why I crave more of the good stuff. I think the car chase is excellent, but the rest is too route 1 for my taste. The plane scene in Bolivia and the boat sequence I find particularly nauseating and lacking invention, particularly next to the Tosca sequence.