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Mathis being left in the dumpster was Bond trying to slow down local police and buy himself more time. The intention was to make it look like an armed robbery that escalated into a murder. To quote Mathis himself, "Being dead doesn't mean one can't still be useful" Hence Bond using Mathis' corpse to try and divert police attention into thinking his death was a result of an armed robbery and why he says to Camille Mathis wouldn't have cared after she questions him about dumping the body in the trash.
It's definitely a grim scene but it's a bold move to convey to audiences and a character layer of what Bond is capable of and willing to do to complete his mission. Also, in a slightly twisted sort of way, Bond dumping Mathis' body in the bin was respecting and honoring him because Mathis himself would have encouraged such a tactic.
For me it's sort of the opposite. Pretension and bullshit are very much part of its make up. It tries incredibly hard to be cool, while CR just is cool. CR is directed by a man who doesn't approach it in narcissistic fashion. Campbell is about making a good Bond film first and foremost, while Forster is about making a good Forster movie. You can smell the contempt at times.
Was it panned? May be by Mark Kermode, who hates Bond anyway, but otherwise I think it got reasonable reviews.
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Yes, people often say that Campbell is a workman director, but I think it is as you describe.
I agree.
There's just such great artistry and quality of performance in this movie that makes everything so raw and impactful. It gets written off by so many for not being a "proper" Bond movie, but that contention always makes me laugh. This movie, and the Craig films in general feel more in touch with Young's style of Bond than any other previous director, and for me, his three are as proper as Bond films can get. Quantum doesn't bog itself down with a silly pact to the formula, and just tells a damn good story with Bond at his most interesting. This may in fact be Dan's best performance, because he is given so many great meaty moments to give us a window into Bond's inner life like no actor has done like Sean and Timothy. But he performs like this in all his films, so it is very hard for me to say conclusively which of the four are his best, as I struggled similarly with Connery's films.
I hope that over time Quantum finds even more support as its wonders are discovered by a new generation of fans that like Bond films with more meat on their bones and more than spectacle on the menu.
Some of the greatest friendships I've made on here started in part by discussing this film with members on this thread, and our mutual love for it bonded us from the start.
Both examples of father figure allies for Bond that were really warm towards him from the start, and left their impact. Bond grabbing Kerim's shoulder lovingly in FRWL and him holding Mathis in his arms as he died in QoS both strike a similar feeling.
I love it when Mathis says to Bond, "forgive her. Forgive yourself" as his last words. He's the big hero of QoS beyond the Quantum plot because throughout the film he helps Bond to realize the truth about Vesper he was too blinded by his rage to see, and makes him face all she did for him. Without Mathis, Bond may never have healed properly.
Also, Forster employs all four elements as the basis for his action scenes: earth (car chase), water (boat chase), air (plane chase), fire (hotel sequence).
His intent. I believe Forster iirc brings this up in a Featurette.
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Thanks.
He already did,in CR,dumping the bodies in the boot of the car and framing some of Le Chiffe's men.
It would be a twisted moment for someone outside the spy world to witness, you're right. Bond's action there is something just between he and Mathis that nobody else could "get."
The slimy shoulder rubbing between the CIA and Quantum is one of my favorite things about the film. Beam is just such a sick freak, and it's played so damn well. It's fascinating to watch Felix stuck in the middle rallying with his head and heart and facing a moral crisis about how to deal with the corruption he sees unfolding.
I really hope we see Wright's Leiter again before Dan hangs up his holster. It would feel wrong if we didn't.
So agreed. :)>-
My memory is crap tonight,thanks @Birdleson