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Very interesting. Thanks for posting!
This would probably have been too much of a rehash of CRs gunbarrel. Even delivering the line to Haines at the end would have been too similar to CR IMO.
Also, at the time, I was frustrated by this missing ending but the fact we wouldn't have got Skyfall (my favourite of all time), I'm now kinda glad it was left, even though I'm aware this ending is wanted by those who were not too keen on Skyfall onwards.
“I never left”
*tosses necklace*
(somber music)
Is an AMAZING ending. I think it’s brilliant.
https://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/articles/qos-mr-white-cut-scene
The whole series would've had to have gone a different route if White had been killed in QOS, so cutting this one scene was actually a really pivotal decision even if they didn't know it at the time. Strange thought.
Spectre should have ended at the crater base. Maybe M could have dispatched troops or even the entire 00 section to assault it and we could've gotten an old-school battle scene. Wrap up everything neatly with a big finale, with Blofeld dying in the explosion (maybe leaving his survival a question mark). The movie was already overlong at that point and the sudden switch to the dour and lazy finale in London reeked of script rewrites. A finale at the crater base was the natural place to end that movie. I have no idea why they wasted such a cool location on a torture scene and Bond shooting a couple of goons before escaping.
I think I say Casino Royale publically as hat is a respectable choice but so much of Quantum I absolutely love.
100% agreed that Spectre should have ended with the base explosion. Have a proper Bond escape and leave Blofeld’s fate questionable. Even still, the movie is quite good if you just hit STOP after the explosion.
That line from Bond is partially what made me think that Spectre activated a self-destruct on the base, because it was compromised. For me it explained why the explosion was so large, and why Bond was surprised by it.
I still think this would have been a cooler explanation (the script seems to confirm this wasn't the case), because then we see Bond and Madeleine flying off in one direction, and Spectre in their cars barreling off in the other; in the grand scheme of Spectre's plans, the base was a pawn, and opening chess move. Bond realizing this, "It's not over yet."
EDIT: I forgot what thread we were in, my bad!
This sounds like a wild ranking! Very into it, love all three of these films.
Thanks! It's indeed wild and this one resulted in some of the biggest changes I've had in my rankings in years.
It seems to be gaining some traction in fan circles like here. Hard to say if there will ever be a new revision of the film. Those were big in the days home video was booming, but that is almost gone and things like the Snyder cut of Justice League show there is still interest in the right project. But given QoS is seen near the bottom of Craig rankings and mostly forgotten it faces a real uphill battle.
Also not sure if Eon would be open to something like they. They aren't as controlling as back in Cubby's day but it just doesn't seem like something they'd want to do. They should've done it during the long wait for NTTD, which would've helped get people excited by something somewhat new.
Good critique, I agree. It could have been more satisfying.
QOS is my second favorite too! :D
Sounds indeed like a refreshing ranking. Nothing against the usual suspects GF and SF, but they don't even get anywhere near my top 3...
And I agree QoS has always been given unfair bad rap for being the ugly duckling in DC's tenure. Without the writer's strike I wager QoS would have been a widely accepted classic like SF was, the latter rides on the coat-tails of 2012 - the Olympics & general walking on air vibe of that year have a lot to do with it's popularity in the UK.
I also found myself liking QoS quite a bit when I rewatched it about a month ago. This time it was really smaller things I enjoyed. Basically everything from Tosca to Mathis dying is great in my book (maybe except for the fight scene in Bregenz, but that isn't exactly bad, just not my bag). The whole sequence in Italy is pure style and Giancarlo Giannini is so cool, it is staggering. Them arriving in Bolivia and the different hotels and the cabbie and Mathis is maybe some different kind of film, but so much fun. "We are teachers on sabbatical and we've just won the lottery" is just perfect.
I mean, I am just scrolling through the "quotes" page on imdb and there are some fantastic lines in this. And I'll stop here...
Felix Leiter: I'll take that as a compliment coming from a Brit.
Yes, that one is pure gold. I love it when the Bond writers show they are clued in on the UK's geo-political and colonial history and pay it lip service.
The script has moments of magic - but the writers' strike shows in the limited character development of Greene and Camille, complete non-development or writing of Kabira and rushed segueing of the action sequences in the first half of the film.
edit: having said the above I still like QoS more than either SF or SP ;)
High five on that!