"Gore" in Bond films (blood, saliva, intestines, all you can think of!!)

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  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Maybe he eats their eye balls,like Kamal Khan?
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    Maybe he eats their eye balls,like Kamal Khan?

    Yuk :-P. Don't start talking about that scene hehe. But I do think Hinx has the potential to become a formidable henchman.
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    Yeah, that amount of gore was quite.....a lot. I think LTK really ranks top spot as the most gory Bond film ever.

    Personally, I think the 1960s films are all quite gory, with Thunderball the most gory - both actual and relative to it's era. The shark attacks, throttling, spear gun, drowning deaths are pretty gruesome - but the mass underwater knife and spear gun fight at the climax features plenty of blood and guts e.g one guy gets stabbed in the eye through his face mask.

    They make the A-team shoot outs of later films (check out the sterile Dalton gunfight at the beginning of LTK, or the majority of Brosman's gunfights) look like children's TV

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    Troy wrote: »
    Yeah, that amount of gore was quite.....a lot. I think LTK really ranks top spot as the most gory Bond film ever.

    Personally, I think the 1960s films are all quite gory, with Thunderball the most gory - both actual and relative to it's era. The shark attacks, throttling, spear gun, drowning deaths are pretty gruesome - but the mass underwater knife and spear gun fight at the climax features plenty of blood and guts e.g one guy gets stabbed in the eye through his face mask.

    They make the A-team shoot outs of later films (check out the sterile Dalton gunfight at the beginning of LTK, or the majority of Brosman's gunfights) look like children's TV

    :)) I like that last line hehe. I don't know about the Brosnan gunfights though. In my opinion he was emptying his PPK way too fast and way too soon. For instance in TWINE. It made Brosnan at times look like the lead character of "Die Hard".

    I prefer the shoots where Bond is first confronting the villain with his dirty work, then he shoots one time with a silencer, and "BAM" dead. Like in DN and CR. I find that way more menacing and chilling.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Other than in GE did Brosnan even use a ppk?
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    Other than in GE did Brosnan even use a ppk?

    Sorry, Walther P99 :-P
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    Other than in GE did Brosnan even use a ppk?

    He did in the first half of TND. He used it at Carvers factory.

  • SzonanaSzonana Mexico
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    OHMSS69 wrote: »
    I always felt that Bond handled the violence and gore with great taste. LTK is often called violent and bloody but even for the time it was very very mild when you compare it to
    Lethal Weapon, Die Hard, Predator, Steven Seagall's films and a slew of other late eighties films. The deaths were gruesome but handled with great class and taste.

    If I had to focus on one or two I would say Mr. Kil's death in DAD and the decision to mutilating his corpse was kinda gory.

    And speaking of Die another day
    Zao's death was quite gory.

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    Szonana wrote: »
    OHMSS69 wrote: »
    I always felt that Bond handled the violence and gore with great taste. LTK is often called violent and bloody but even for the time it was very very mild when you compare it to
    Lethal Weapon, Die Hard, Predator, Steven Seagall's films and a slew of other late eighties films. The deaths were gruesome but handled with great class and taste.

    If I had to focus on one or two I would say Mr. Kil's death in DAD and the decision to mutilating his corpse was kinda gory.

    And speaking of Die another day
    Zao's death was quite gory.

    I still love this piece of gore though:

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    Lovely signature kill? Let's see :-)
  • "SPECTRE" will be the first Bond-film in The Netherlands receiving an age classification of "16". Which is rather unprecedented according to the Dutch "KIJKWIJZER" (equivalent of the BBFC). Both http://www.kijkwijzer.nl/Classificaties uitgelegd/page203.html and http://www.kijkwijzer.nl/index.php?id=26&i=203784&professional= mention "James Bond" as a prime example receiving an age classification of "12". Not for "SPECTRE" this time around, as http://www.wolff.nl/films/spectre is mentioning:
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    Perhaps....the film is way more violent now Mr Hinx is in the film ;-)?
  • DariusDarius UK
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    Remember in DAF, we never really learned what happened to Blofeld?

    I remember reading somewhere (I can't remember where) that an earlier cut of the movie (or the submission screenplay) showed Bond dropping him into a quarry rock crusher amidst a fountain of blood and gore, followed by a comment along the lines of "Sorry for ruining the line of your suit." I believe that this was thought to be too strong for audiences of the day, so it was cut from the movie. Also because the producers wanted to leave Blofeld's fate open for future movies.
  • With Blofeld in DAF it was a salt mine granulator in the screenplay and the idea wound up being used for Dario in LTK with the cocaine grinder.
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    Since when is Saliva considered a gore ?
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    No idea.
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    No idea.

    The saliva of komodo dragons is actually very poisonous. Once they bite you and their saliva gets into your bloodstream...you will suffer from terrible slow necrosis of tissue material. Could take for days.... And there are no antidotes for this saliva.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Casino henchman considered it as gore.
  • DariusDarius UK
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    With Blofeld in DAF it was a salt mine granulator in the screenplay and the idea wound up being used for Dario in LTK with the cocaine grinder.

    Well, it was a long time ago I read this. I apologise if I got the one-liner wrong, but it would probably have taken a lot the sting out of a pretty gruesome scene, no matter how it was delivered.

  • SarkSark Guangdong, PRC
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    Is it possible for a mod to fix the typo in the title?
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    Darius wrote: »
    With Blofeld in DAF it was a salt mine granulator in the screenplay and the idea wound up being used for Dario in LTK with the cocaine grinder.

    Well, it was a long time ago I read this. I apologise if I got the one-liner wrong, but it would probably have taken a lot the sting out of a pretty gruesome scene, no matter how it was delivered.

    No need to apologize, that's the first I heard of that one liner and it makes sense. I had also read about the scripted alternate ending to DAF from several sources and what you wrote jives with I heard. Apparently Blofeld was to escape in his bath-o-sub and Bond was to give chase via weather ballon before winding up at the salt mining plant. There was to be a chase across the salt dunes and then into the plant where Blofeld was to fall into a crusher/grinder, possibly a call back to OHMSS and the skier in the snowblower.

    The idea then was going to be a coffee plantation and grinder in LALD which turned into the alligator farm. The grinder/crusher idea wasn't used until LTK. Just sharing some gory trivia.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Spy had a touch of gore, with the two professors witnessing Stromberg's assistant get eaten by the shark.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    OHMSS69 wrote: »
    If I had to focus on one or two I would say Mr. Kil's death in DAD and the decision to mutilating his corpse was kinda gory.
    That was the single goriest thing in a Bond, but the whole film had a 'cartoonish' unrealism to it that it just hadn't the impact of Krest's death, or Felix's leg loss.
    LTK is still the overall winner in this category, I think.
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    Sark wrote: »
    Is it possible for a mod to fix the typo in the title?

    Is that ok?
  • Birdleson wrote: »
    It was more like showing her what his being loyal to her, and her betrayal of him, cost him. That was what turned him. She did just give him up cold-heartedly.

    After analyzing the trailer, I must say that Hinx to me looks like an effing menacing scary henchman. And I don't know if I'm right, but does Hinx prefer killing people in this typical way? Popping out an eye, as a means of getting a better grip on the yet-to-be-snapped head/skull?? It's like.....all I ever dreamt off :-O! And then look at the guy who's being -most likely- killed by Hinx. It looks pretty much horrific to see a human with an empty eye socket:

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    I still reckon this scene at the SPECTRE-table will be the equivalent of Silva's William Tell game and him showing his prothesis jaw to 'M'. I still find that picture scary to death.....
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Maybe it's the motion blur, but it also looks like he's got just one tooth left! :O
  • QBranch wrote: »
    Maybe it's the motion blur, but it also looks like he's got just one tooth left! :O

    I really hope people in cinema, me included, get a bit....'afraid' of that Mr Hinx. I love it when a sinister henchman makes people afraid....or loathe from fear :-).

    I remember very well three years ago with my mum and dad. My mum sad during that William Tell scene in "SkyFall": "My. God. What a basterd :-(. What a psychopath! :-< !!

    And a few moments later when Silva took out his jaw: "Eeeewhh, I'm gonna close my eyes Gert X_X !!"

    At those moments you know that the combination of exquisit acting, scary costumes, a good story, and some age 16+ horror/gore really works on screen. I loved to see my mum suffer hehehe >:) .
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    QBranch wrote: »
    Maybe it's the motion blur, but it also looks like he's got just one tooth left! :O
    I really hope people in cinema, me included, get a bit....'afraid' of that Mr Hinx. I love it when a sinister henchman makes people afraid....or loathe from fear :-).
    Bautista in Guardians really wowed me- his build was phenomenal- not sure whether I was more intimidated by him, or more inspired (I'm tall and skinny). Remember The Mountain in GoT (rumoured for SP henchman IIRC), and how he crushed the guy's skull with his hands? I want that kind of jaw-dropping strength from Mr Hinx. I think that eye-pop scene already sold it for me. I'm hoping that it was caused by a killer punch- and nothing more, just to display Hinx' power.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    I agree that LTK is probably the most gory Bond film, and I can't wait to
    see Mr Hinx handing out some punishment. :)
  • A little bit of trivia on a bit of gore that was almost in SPECTRE. Originally in the script Sciarra was to die after falling through the blades of the helicopter as it was flying upside down. Would have been interesting and satisfying to see. Also could have been a nice throwback to OHMSS and LTK. I found what we got in the final film to be a little bland in comparison.
  • Birdleson wrote: »
    A little bit of trivia on a bit of gore that was almost in SPECTRE. Originally in the script Sciarra was to die after falling through the blades of the helicopter as it was flying upside down. Would have been interesting and satisfying to see. Also could have been a nice throwback to OHMSS and LTK. I found what we got in the final film to be a little bland in comparison.

    Tha's SPECTRE!

    Overall I would have to agree, which is a shame because the film had a lot of potential based off some of the leaked stuff in the scripts but they never really did get things to work quite right, especially the third act. I wish the film had just a little bit more guts, if you know what I mean. The base escape is probably one of the laziest action scenes in the whole franchise. It's like the film briefly turns into a fps game.

    They had several interesting ideas in the various scripts about how Bond and Madeleine and in some drafts Bond and Q set about to destroy the facility and even a classic deathtrap with the Solar Furnace idea to burn Bond to death and then having them later repositioning the furnace mirrors to overheat the facility's cooling systems and in another version Q helped Bond from his apartment to hack into and sabotage the bases's systems but in the end they kind of just cheated and got rid of the solar furnace and a dinner scene and instead had a generic torture scene with a few lines from Colonel Sun and the whole place just blows up after shooting a couple of tanks.

    The pacing and staging of the finale in London was also very different from how it read in the script. There was less involvement from the rest of the MI6 crew and it also felt a bit more tense when read on the page than how it turned out in the film. Yes, bland indeed. Such a shame really.
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    Birdleson wrote:
    To me the killing of Edmund Slate by Bond in QUANTUM OF SOLACE is by far the most disturbing scene in a Bond film. I actually get squeamish (I have a phobia about arteries and pumping blood, even typing this is making me tense). That is the only scene in a Bond film that I had to look away from (and maybe the Tsunami-skiing).
    Note that in that scene, there is virtually no blood. Slate's life-juice should have been pumping out in big spurts, given his severed artery...

    But Forster & Co. cleverly suggest blood subliminally, by using broken shards of red glass.

    The balcony door is smashed in the fight, leaving shards of red glass scattered on the floor, where we see Slate's (virtually bloodless) body lying as he bleeds out.

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