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  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    royale65 wrote: »
    Casino Royale was such a great movie, that its successor was always on a hiding to nothing. Certainly I felt that way. But with time, as you said, I began to appreciate QoS - a film with different and contrasting levels of "greyness", in which Bond is a white knight.

    I quite like that description. There's actually a lot of chess-like metaphors in the Bond series as a whole, when you think about it. The spy world Bond frequents is it's own chess board, with Bond a pawn of his government fighting on the front lines, a weaker force in the face of massive conspiracies like SPECTRE.

    And of course at times M has been called "The Evil Queen of Numbers," White "The Pale King," and of course Bond has no doubt been teased endlessly for being a pawn, soldier, etc. of the "kindgom" or "realm." A lot of that is simply down to Bond being a celebrated staple character of an old imperial power in a series that welcomes the frequent symbolic usage of monarchical or royal sounding titles, but anyway...
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    On the SP discussion, for me it's like this:
    Bond goes after Blofeld to stop him (and, if it works out that way, kill him). hence the destruction in Marocco. Bond is known to rile up his advisaries, that's why he said he was there to kill him.
    Then in the MI6 building, Bond shoots, but he's seen the glass allready. It's just his frustration (and a homage to TWINE).
    Finally, on the bridge, he's stopped Blofeld. He doesn't kill an unarmed man, he doesn't like killing in cold blood. Even though this guy has killed Oberhauser, even though they have this long-going connection. It's got nothing to do with Madeleine, he's acting like he's always done.

    The drive-off isn't that special. It's another homage of Bond driving off with the girl, like he's ended with Tania in the gondola, domino under a B17, etc. etc. Even emphasized by the rebuilt (classic) DB5.

    We won't see Swann again, their 'love' was as much a love story as Tania's
  • MansfieldMansfield Where the hell have you been?
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    I think that the Bond film I have viewed most all-time is The World Is Not Enough. What I found so shocking is that in my most recent viewing, I noticed that after Bond fends off Elektra with his right hand (the one Zukovsky frees), he reaches up with his right hand to free his neck. In the subsequent frame, it shows his left hand being the one to unlock the neck restraint.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Ha, didn't notice that! will look for it. Brosnan's Bond does get left and right confused at times, he does too in GE while observing the yacht.
  • barryt007barryt007
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    Oooh i didnt know that either....bad continuity then....i will check that out next time i view TWINE and GE....
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I've watched the films so much that those goofs seem to pop up more frequently these days. A couple of weeks back, I noticed how Bond enters the tube to meet M in DAD, and as soon as he descends the steps and goes through the door, the camera cuts to where he's now standing, which is in a corner with no door in sight.

    In other words, Bond entered a wormhole or portal of some sort.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    So, we can all basically agree that Brosnan's Bond is not only a man with lightning fast hand reflexes, but he's also a skilled time traveler and "jumper?"
  • BAIN123BAIN123
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    I'm also guilty of noticing more and more gaffes in the films of late.

    They don't just apply to Brosnan's Bond (Martin Campbell mentions the change-of-hand when observing the yacht in the dvd commentary) but to a fair few of the others as well (night turning into dawn in the space of a second in LTK).

    The most infamous gaffe? Probably the car stunt in DAF.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I just realized that Moore rode a sea vehicle (boat or watercraft) in all of his first four films. There were the boat chases in LALD, TMWTGG & MR (two in this one if you count the gondola) and Q's waterjet in TSWLM (you could even count the Lotus if you want but that was underwater).
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    And the submarine-iceberg in AVTAK.
  • Crazysoul95Crazysoul95
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    He is also aboard that boat with the wedding in AVTAK.
  • barryt007barryt007
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    and pulled onto the tourist boat by Michael G Wilson in OP...
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited September 2016 Posts: 15,718
    Being on a boat in all respective outings is also true of:
    Dalton - he parachutes on a boat (TLD) and is aboard for Wave Krest (LTK).
    Brosnan - The Manticore (GE), the Stealth Boat (TND), the Q boat (TWINE), the boat to get on the Cuban clinic (DAD).
    Craig - in Venice (CR), in Haiti (QOS), on the way to Silva's Island (SF) and on the thames (SP).
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    edited September 2016 Posts: 5,080
    GOLDFINGER is the only Conners film where he isn't seen in a boat or water going vessel of some kind-

    DN- Boat to Crab Key
    FRWL- Escape from SPECTRE goons
    TB- Throughout
    YOLT- Boat to the fishing village
    DAF- Cruise ship with Tiffany.

  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Wow, I never really noticed how nautical the Bond series has always been!
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I've noticed that Benzes are quite prevalent in James Bond films as baddie's cars. In fact, Mercedes-Benz seems to be the vehicle of choice for the henchman. Usually top of the line S-Class as well.

    GF, OHMSS & SP (Lucia) all feature black ones.

    OHMSS & DAF feature silver 600 SEL Pullman limos for Blofeld. OP features a blue one used by Kamal. FYEO features a silver 280 SE (driven by Loque) and OP features a maroon 450 SEL (driven by Gobinda). Fatima drives an SL in NSNA. Elliot's goons drive two blue W126 S-classes (not sure which model) in TND.

    The good guys drive them too. TMWTGG features a white 200 driven by Hip. Bond himself drives a 250SE (I think) in OP on the tracks, and he drives a rental S class in SF in Shanghai when pursuing Patrice.
    --

    Rolls Royce also gets featured a lot in these films. FRWL GF, OHMSS, TMWTGG, AVTAK, LTK, TWINE, & SP all have them.

    The babes tend to drive sporty Fords (normally Mustangs). Tilly, Tracy & Fiona all drive Stangs, and Jinx drives a T-Bird.
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
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    MayDayDiVicenzo wrote: »
    GOLDFINGER is the only Conners film where he isn't seen in a boat or water going vessel of some kind-

    DN- Boat to Crab Key
    FRWL- Escape from SPECTRE goons
    TB- Throughout
    YOLT- Boat to the fishing village
    DAF- Cruise ship with Tiffany.

    Seagull floatie?!
    :))
  • IGUANNAIGUANNA
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    One of the shots in the Skyfall underwater ice fight is flipped horizonatlaly for no good reason. I remember this caused me great confusion in the theatre, with what a disaster of photographt and choreography. Mendes excels at the family drama, but not so much on the action.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    Two observations from SP.
    The first is after the DB10 has ejected Bond by parachute. At 50.42 - 50.44 the chute looks no bigger than a large table cloth. Though I'm no expert on parachutes, it does appear rather small.
    The second is during the Nine Eyes meeting in Tokyo. At 51.16 although blurred you can see that Australia is one of the members. Though at 51.30 via Tanners laptop we can see that Australia isn't one of the members of Nine Eyes. They are, Spain, China, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, South Africa, United Kingdom and United States.
    So what are Australia doing there? Perhaps ASIO are so good that no-one noticed. Despite the place card.
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    Good spot Benny, although it's clear enough Australia isn't a member as there is no one sitting at the table wearing a large hat with corks hanging from it.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    Or overacting and using words like. "Strewth." And, "Fair go cobber."
    Despite this, I still find myself very much enjoying SP. My second favourite of the Craig films.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    A shame too, as Mad Max and Bond could've teamed up to save the world.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited September 2016 Posts: 40,976
    I just found out the other day that Maud Adams actually appears in "three" Bond movies, if you count her tiny background cameo in AVTAK. I never knew she was in it.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited September 2016 Posts: 40,976
    I haven't had the chance to look myself, but she apparently appears when Bond and Chuck Lee are first walking and talking with one another. They say this is her behind them, in the tan jacket and black pants, holding hands with the man in a plaid shirt:

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gNK4iZYLVwk/UBlsIrEJc5I/AAAAAAAAEzs/dS_lIBRwDpU/s1600/A-View-to-a-Kill-James-Bond-Roger-Moore-Chuck-Lee-David-Yip-Maud-Adams-cameo.png
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    So that's where she is! It's like trying to find Waldo.
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I haven't had the chance to look myself, but she apparently appears when Bond and Chuck Lee are first walking and talking with one another. They say this is her behind them, in the tan jacket and black pants, holding hands with the man in a plaid shirt:

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gNK4iZYLVwk/UBlsIrEJc5I/AAAAAAAAEzs/dS_lIBRwDpU/s1600/A-View-to-a-Kill-James-Bond-Roger-Moore-Chuck-Lee-David-Yip-Maud-Adams-cameo.png

    That certainly looks like her! We've got her, the minx!
  • barryt007barryt007
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    I actually dont think it does look like her,2 years after OP....so frustrating....i hope it is her,to solve this bloody mystery !!
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Adams is definitely in that scene, as she confirmed it herself.
  • barryt007barryt007
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    Well if thats the case it must be her,can't see anyone else she could be....annoying not knowing for sure...
  • barryt007barryt007
    edited September 2016 Posts: 19,339
    Actually ,i heard a rumour that as Bond was getting off the tram,she was in that scene,but i cant remember where that came from.
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