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I would have liked to see the jungle hunt played a bit more seriously. I like gags in my Bond films, even the silly ones, but the ones in there really are a bit naff and episodic, and the idea of Bond being hunted like an animal in the jungle is a really good one; I can imagine it being really scary in a Fleming novel or something. And towards the end you do see a touch of the desperation of Bond- a bit more of that would have been welcome.
Plus it's directed by the guy who made the best Star Wars movie too. It is a mystery what happened to everyone's talent! :)
They had a great, silly gag at the end with "I'm on the economy tour". That was all that was needed. The Tarzan yell and the Barbara Woodhouse impression ruined any tension that was there in that jungle scene.
And, for an international movie, was there anyone outside the UK that understood the Barbara Woodhouse thing anyway?
Yeah.
Yeah that is a good solid punchline. I like that ending too- Bond is so desperate and at the end of his tether that he has to get a load of ordinary tourists to rescue him; being in dire straights to that extent is quite unusual for him.
I think she was well-known in the US too. But I kind of like that they don't care about that sort of thing too much sometimes: like the Clampers guy in TWINE!
Oh yes I completely forgot about those elements too. Thank you @mtm!
Would they though?
Doubtful. Whatever outlandish things happen in OP, they comfortably blend with the rest of the film, which at times takes a surprisingly serious tone, even with a Bond in clown make-up. The silly stuff in NSNA sticks out like a sore thumb. That doesn't mean I would mind Barbara Carrera in nurse outfit telling me to be a good boy, though. Minus the dope.
Bingo!
Is the dullness of the cinematography (which I agree with) a result of how it was shot and finished, or how the film has been treated after release. I don't think it has had a 4k restoration, the same as the other Bond films, with a clean up and colour touch up. Maybe that would make it look better? I have seen a DVD version which didn't look great and a 1080 HD TV broadcast recorded which looks significantly better, though not to the standard I would expect. Raiders also benefits from an extensive 4k restoration and touch up, overseen by Spielberg I think, hence why even today it looks absolutely fantastic.
The movie looks like The Italian Job or something like that, but it needs some kind of restoration.
But, you know, Eon will never do that.
I recall watching the 4K remaster on Amazon. It looked more filmic with the appropriate grain of an 80s film, so it’s technically a proper upgrade from the previous HD release. It’s still a dull looking film, seemingly by design.
If I had to guess, they might have been trying to go for a “naturalistic” aesthetic rather than something fantastically stylish. I can only guess because this is a movie nobody seems to want to talk about, including the people that actually made it. Except for Connery, I remember a magazine from 1990 where he called it “a piece of ****”. He thought producer Jack Schwartzman was completely unsuitable for a Bond film and when you look at the guy’s resume he really did look like he was out of his league.
That’s what happens when you have someone in production that doesn’t know how to spend on a budget.
As Cubby always said, make sure every penny shows on screen. And for all of EoN's faults, both past and present, they certainly do that.
I can also say that when it comes to mere visuals, all the EON Bonds have aged very well. For example, we know that GF is a '60s Bond film, but does it really show? I find all of these films to have a timeless quality that is impressive.
NSNA, by contrast, doesn't have any of that.
There are a lot of "dated" Bond movies. LALD, LTK, GE, DAD, QOS...
Connery showed moments of vulnerability in DN-TB...after that, not so much.
You can see the humanity kind of sapping out from Connery's portrayal as he goes along.
Why has that made you laugh?
About Nolan, yeah, I’d love him to direct. But it’s not sine qua non for me.
Yes indeed, Broccoli knew what he was doing. The scale and variety of OP is pretty amazing.
It's all a matter of opinion: there's no objective truth about who is the best and who isn't. If someone can make an intelligent case for why they think what they do, as I would say Peter certainly did upthread, then I think that's to be respected rather than dismissed.
Yes I think that's absolutely true (and I'd say there's noticeably less after FRWL). In Dr No he's scared by a tarantula so much that he appears to throw up; the Bond of DAF wouldn't blink an eye. Maybe the most you get is a moment of very mild panic in the coffin, but he's not exactly sick with shock when he's let out :D
I'm easy personally, I think he's made some great films, but he can be a tad pretentious as a filmmaker.
I think Martin Campbell did a better job of rebooting Bond than Nolan could have ever done, he set up the last two eras perfectly. I think Campbell did wonderfully in modernising the series without straying too far from what Bond should be.
Pretty much. This is likely one of the few opportunities Nolan will ever be interested in doing a Bond gig. But I won’t shed tears if his time never comes. Bond and Nolan don’t necessarily need each other, they’re both in good standing.
I can absolutely agree with this. GE and CR rank as my two favourite Bond films after all.
I wouldn't necessarily say that Nolan can't do it. I'm just not seeing him as "the lord our saviour" for the Bond series. I bet others can pull it off too.
Campbell can't save Bond either. He is old and out of touch.
Sam Mendes can do it but It's a boring choice.
@DEKE_RIVERS
1) Why does Bond have to be "saved"?
2) When did either @Jordo007 or myself suggest Campbell for the next Bond?