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"Bullets for Winter"
That’s it (for someone who hates coming up with titles, I like this one).
@LucknFate is there a shell company with this name?
I agree about coming up with titles. For Bond titles, I find using die or kill is more often than not a Bond stereotype. Also, when I came to the site today, I thought we did get an announcement. Based on the many new posts, here.
For once, I fully agree with you. We just need patience.
Just from reading this site you must be aware that even here people are divided about what they want from Bond. There isn't one dominant opinion.
I don't now. Wanting news is now a bad thing.
Makes absolute sense @DEKE_RIVERS … Having an inferiority complex isn’t a great way to tackle life btw. Neither is trolling.
I simply disagree. Especially after Bond 25/SP there was a major feeling of fatigue with all the sentimentality and just wanting standalone missions back, without the connected stories, the scooby gang, etc. And more humour and lightness added back in. I'm not saying everyone agrees, but certainly a majority agree on that at least.
Jesus, seriously?? Please show me numbers of worldwide audiences, who spent $775 million in box office receipts, during COVID, are the majority you’re speaking of.
The box office numbers contradict your claims.
Rise of Skywalker made over a billion, doesn't mean the majority of fans were happy with it.
Show me your data, @Mendes4Lyfe .
You’re speaking off the top of your head, that’s it. Nothing you say is based in fact, outside of your own opinion. As far as I know, you’re a fan of Bond. You don’t work in the film industry. You’re loaded with an opinion and nothing to back it up with.
Why would I have to work in the film industry to know SP/B25 weren't received well by general audiences?
Sentiments I've been feeling for a week or two now. Some of you should try and avoid one another and stop responding to every comment that's made.
Because you have absolutely zero perspective, @Mendes4Lyfe !
Show me the data you have.
You have nothing but your own echo chamber of a few anonymous people on a fan site.
As has been warned, @Mendes4Lyfe , we should take this into the PMs, and I'll be happy to further discuss the fallacy of your (arrogant) assumptions and declarations.
Sometimes changes are necessary.
Indeed.
@DEKE_RIVERS and @Mendes4Lyfe , you've been asked to take it to PMs, and I'll be happy to continue this "discussion", and I'll try and:
a) translate the fascinating thoughts that fly out of Deke's brain, and;
b) discuss, in depth, the imaginary data Mendes uses to prop his opinions (opinions you have every right to hold, just don't state it as a fact, or a majority thinks as you do).
But neither of younwill show up in my PM's, will you? You both need an audience to spout to.
But I'll be waiting to chat with both of you.
Isn’t it? I love it.
Can you imagine if they did end up using that title? We would’ve known the true title of Bond26 for years :)
I can see it already: BFW. Seriously, I like that title.
I’d say it’s worth asking what a ‘classic Bond adventure’ is. After all the character has been adapted for film so many times now - reinvented you could say. I mean, FRWL and DN are very different adventures to GF and yet both are generally considered classic Bond films/adventures. CR and SF are, for many viewers, actually their only frame of reference for Bond. Tropes certainly exist with Bond, but how they’re used can be very different dependent on the film.
As @sandbagger1 pointed out even fans are divided about what exactly they want. Hey, I haven’t always liked everything about these films, but as a fan I can say the Craig era gave me two of my personal favourite Bond films, and 5 which I’ll happily revisit and think about. And the truth is general viewers don’t think about Bond as much as we do. Tell a casual viewer you’re annoyed at ‘the Scooby gang’ and they’d look at you oddly. They’d probably (if they could) be able to only think of one film where the regular MI6 team join and help Bond in a hands on way by the end (and honestly, they wouldn’t be wrong). Tell them you’re annoyed about ‘personal’ stories and maybe some would agree, and others wouldn’t. I can only go from how people I know (who aren’t fans) responded to the Craig era, and while everyone has their own take I’ve honestly seen more positive than negative. I actually know many who don’t like older Bond films who actually really got into Craig’s era.
Beyond the ice, anyone? ;)
Bullets for Winter is a very juicy, pulp, spy novelesque title. Love it!
BFW, yeah, I can see that ;)
https://www.acronymfinder.com/Slang/BFW.html
But we're seeing films with so much over the top CGI action these days, it might be all that is wearing thin. It's getting harder to go places that are new. It might be, just might be possible, a smaller, tighter film more focused on story than effects may have something to offer. The train sequence in MI was spectacular, but now we've seen it, what will be the next fix?
It'd be mad wouldn't it? Knowing the title for so long. It feels very Fleming like it could have been a chapter title
As for the first point, I don’t know. I happen to prefer the original 4 films of the series to anything my generation of films have offered me, even to, say, GE or CR or SF. Same goes for music, btw, which for me is 16th to 19th century classic, jazz, bossa nova, and then a great number of things from the earlier half of the last century. Same goes for art in general, being that I’m not the biggest neo modernist. I did enjoy surrealism. I really don’t identify much with my generation, actually, and that was one of the many things that attracted me to Bond.