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Oh, absolutely agreed. I was mistaken then. MR the novel would be a very good starting point.
Why not? They treated Craig like they should have treated Connery in his day.
Better late than never.
There is still potential to build a film using bits and pieces of untapped Fleming material. Literally, the PTS could be a very shortened version of TSWLM novel. FAVTAK was never adapted with the exception of the title and Paris. Spangled Mob, Horror and Sluggsy which I guess is Jaws and Sandor to an extent and Gala Brand. I was going to say a villian who cheats at cards, but GF used that. There's probably even some good stuff in the Gardner novels that can be adapted. I'm reading For Special Services now and they can bring Felix's daughter into a story. They want a reinventing of the character but I don't think that's 100% necessary. I don't want to see a young Bond in the service or how he was recruited into MI6. Cast a mid 30s actor with Bond already an established agent and build something around unused pieces with more layers added. FYEO did it best in that regard.
Weirdly I kinda wanna see one thing adapted from FSS. I know you’re still reading it/not sure if it’s your first time so…
So please, stop with the pearl clutching over “egos”. These are just movies.
This. Beautifully stated @MakeshiftPython
That’s all the ending of NTTD was. A part of a story. And a way of ending a Bond film, doing something they had never done in 60 years.
And all the creatives, including the distributors, had to sign off on this (distributors have to sell to markets, and if they thought this end was negatively controversial and it’d muck up the marketing, they have the power to push back).
And if we’re talking about egos, I don’t know how one could possibly measure who has theirs in check, and who doesn’t. This is showbiz. It’s a given that everyone from the Tom Cruises to the producers to Connery and Lazenby and Dalton and Craig and Brosnan and Moore, to directors to writers to developers to financiers…. ALLLLLLL have quite the egos, or they’d have chosen a quieter path in life.
Craig became a partner with the producers. A partner. He didn’t bully his way into the position. He was creatively doing some producing work (by pulling in talent), and they just gave him credit for it in his last two films…
Plus I know of several people who’ve worked with Craig (one was an actor in MacBeth, one was a stuntman who worked twice with him, and one was a set dresser (not on Bond); and from this small sample size, he received glowing reviews (especially the actor who played scenes with him in MacBeth)….
I just don’t know how we can make these sweepingly negative statements about people we don’t know. 🤷♂️…
Though of course once the copyright expires, all is fair.
Flint was designed for James Coburn's particular brand of charm and wry humor. Without Coburn, there is no point to reviving the character.
I'd love to see a Matt Helm movie that avoids the Dean Martin approach and sticks to the character from the original novels by Donald Hamilton. The Helm of the books is a professional spy but he also has no conscience, and, although there is some humor in Helm's first-person narration, the stories have a largely serious tone and can even be disturbing. Bradley Cooper had been in talks to play the role, and I think he'd be great.
I'm no lawyer (and having known some, have no wish to be...) but while copyright expires, hasn't EoN/Danjaq Trademarked (ie, renewable) pretty much everything distinguishable about the Bond movies to the point that any film using expired copyright is going to look like a knock off, even if completely legal? I vaguely remember a story about the name James Bond itself being trademarked, though long enough ago I can't remember how that went.
Not saying they wouldnt be good and I wouldnt watch it, just interested how the whole copyright thing could play out - not sure if I am for/against it staying purely with EoN or opening the floodgates.
They are making their own knock offs. I don't think it makes much difference.
I was wondering the other day what happened to all those people who said they simply wouldn't accept someone else having the 007 number in NTTD, that you couldn't do that. I don't feel like I see that mentioned much anymore.
It’s cuz Bond 25 sucks and no one talks about it cuz it sucks. In fact, it sucks so bad, I forgot what I’m complaining about, but something, something Babs, and the future something, something, and this is what every Bond fan wants something, something and no more pages and pages and pages devoted to trusting something, something and going rogue and yeah! So that’s the long and short of it.
IIRC the big fear was potentially introducing a black girlboss one upping Bond at every opportunity and making Bond look like a loser. The first trailer even fed into that with Nomi telling Bond to stay in his own lane. Basically the kind of thing Kathleen Kennedy gets shit for.
But then the movie came out and it was the polar opposite. And besides, there were two other things they felt were worth griping about. The very two things we’re unlikely to deal with in BOND 26 anyway.
I still think the movie actually failing to give her any victories at all was a mistake: it made her inconsequential to Bond, which is not what you need from one of your protagonists.
After all, they said "James Bond will return" and not "007 will return"
Yeah, but 'James Bond' is just a code name ;)
I mean, I would say that it's a sort of bold move to kill a character that's not yours. There's ego required in that, and I don't mean that in the negative or a positive sense. Anyway most people kick up a fuss because it was done poorly.
Just to be clear, the two things I’m referring to is Bond being dead and having a daughter. Neither of those will likely be seen in Bond 26.
Technically Eon owns the character, and they get to do whatever they want with it. Nobody forced them to do it. If they didn’t want to kill off Bond, that would have been their prerogative. Craig can’t be blamed for something Eon ultimately approved of.
The movie gets so bogged down in its own self-importance, sitting through it is, to me at least, a 160+ minute slog. And I should add that I really wanted to like the movie and gave it a second viewing, but it just didn't work for me either time.
Ryan Reynolds and Ryan Gosling?
Those damn Canadians. ;)
I don't know: I think Bond is theirs. Not just in the legal sense, but the way that Eon have co-authored the world's perception of Bond since 1962. Say James Bond to most people and they'll be thinking of something from the movies.
I too, would LOVE to see a Matt Helm film based on the tone of the Hamilton novels. I always found Hamilton a better read than Fleming, surprisingly enough. Read the script to the recent proposed remake and it too missed the mark. I think "Kingsman" was close to a Flint or U.N.C.L.E. style film and boy, did it not work for me. Just too crude.
Do you know who's lined up to direct the remake? And is the script readily available, or is it difficult to find?
Peter, no idea if there is a director at the moment. The only constant is Spielberg, who optioned the rights. Hamilton, during the D. Martin years sold his rights in Helm to Columbia in perpetuity. I found this out while inquiring about optioning the rights to Helm myself. After I found that out I didn't think anyone would pick up the Helm property. Didn't figure on Spielberg. Script not available as far as I know, I read an associates copy.
Oh wow! Very cool! Thanks for the reply, @delfloria !
At this point, it appears that his next directorial effort will be his UFO film. Either this has been placed on the back burner or it will be directed by someone else, possibly Bradly Cooper, who is also set to star.