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Where does Bond go after Craig?

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  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited September 20 Posts: 8,344
    peter wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    My understanding is that the recent Bond films weren't going to simply add love scenes for the sake of having them. Not unless they were meaningful, would there be any. I prefer that to cheap and meaningless moments finagling their way into the scripts.

    Aren't most of moments between Bond and women on screen cheap and meaningless?

    The women play an important function, from the books and into the films. Just nowadays they’re given the weight and respect they deserve (they can be sexy without being mindless; they can have important jobs without wearing short-shorts and wearing tank tops three sizes too small)…

    Intelligent women can have meaningless flings too. The level of intelligence has nothing to do with it.

    Of course intelligent women can have affairs and flings— I never said otherwise.

    So, listen, I’m not going to play chase with you. You said something that seemed wildly inaccurate again. I asked you to clarify. I even gave you a list.

    You avoided @Mendes4Lyfe (again. This is a reoccurring theme with you, isn’t it? Pontificate and make word-salads, then, when questioned, you shift the narrative and whip up a little chaos. You’re like a certain person running for president).

    Sigh.

    Have a good weekend Mendes, lol.

    I said aren't most of Bond's relationships cheap and meaningless? To which you said "nowadays they're given the weight and respect they deserve, they can be sexy without being mindless", i never mentioned anything about intelligence before that so I didn't shift any goalposts - you brought that up on your own.

    To me, how much weight, respect or intelligence the women are given is completely irrelevant to the types of relationships bond has with them. I thought his status as a serial womaniser was widely accepted, but apparently there are people who take issue with this? The things you learn being a part of sites like these never ceases to amaze.

    Dude, I asked :

    In what ways? How does cheap and meaningless apply to:

    Honey?
    Tatiana?
    Jill (apart from playtime after defeating Goldfinger in Round One? I don’t find playtime cheap, nor meaningless. It’s two adults having fun and letting off steam in Miami).
    Pussy (apart from @CrabKey ’s favourite scene ( 🙃 just a joke))?
    Domino?
    Paula?
    Fiona?
    Helga?
    Aki?
    Kissy?
    Tracy?
    Tiffany?
    Solitaire?
    Andrea?
    (Goodnight… I can see it more).
    Anya?
    Holly?
    Melina?
    Octopussy?
    Stacy?
    Kara?
    Pam?
    Lupe?
    Natalya?
    Paris?
    (Wai Lin shouldn’t have been a love interest)
    Elektra?
    Christmas?
    Jinx?
    Frost?
    Solange?
    Vesper?
    Camille?
    Severine (some may argue both cheap and meaningless, but I’m on the other side of the argument; plus she has value to Bond to “meet (her) employer “…)
    Madeleine?

    You brought up something I discussed in conclusion, but—

    You avoided answering my question.

    I gave you a list of women that I don’t think were relationships that were meaningless, nor cheap, to Bond, after you had said:

    “Aren't most of moments between Bond and women on screen cheap and meaningless?”

    So, once again, @Mendes4Lyfe we fail to connect because you avoid answering questions and shift goalposts and discuss something else entirely.Your words: aren’t most moments between Bond and women on screen cheap and meaningless.

    I disagree with you and asked point blanks how are the moments with the following list, cheap and meaningless.

    I’m quite tired of this game you play. So let’s be adults and end this “conversation “ here, shall we? Just get your last word in, and move on, lol.

    Well, for the record I would definitely consider bonds relationship with at least half the women on your list to be frivolous in nature, including Paula, Helga, Kissy, Solitare, Tiffany, Andrea, Holly, Stacy, Pam, Lupe, Paris (that's why she is mad at him in TND, because he bailed on her before), Christmas, Jinx, Frost, Solange, as well as some you didn't mention like Dents receptionist, Rosie Carver, Patricia Fearing, Inga Bergstrom, Molly Warmflash and many others.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    edited September 20 Posts: 9,233
    Oh brother … @Mendes4Lyfe , I asked, in what ways were these moments “meaningless” and “cheap”.

    Can you answer that? If not, move on.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 4,480
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Every time that I see that there are a lot of posts in this thread, I think a big announcement has been made. Sadly, it seems that a certain individual or two getting into the same arguments. At the risk of being booed or kicked off the site, I think it might be wise to shut down this thread for awhile. At least until we get some official news. Certain people's speculation has turned into fact in their minds. It may be time for this thread to take a break. Sorry to give my viewpoints.

    I'm resting my case for this. It's a shame, while I know I don't have to post or even look at the thread, I feel tricked every time. Some people just don't know when enough is enough. If you can't agree to disagree, then don't post on the thread. James Bond is for everyone. That is why this website (and others) started. If you can't respect others and go on your fictional viewpoints as fact, rambling and insulting others, leave the site. I'm sorry, but if shutting down the thread for a few days helps, please do it. We're to discuss the future of Bond, not drag others into the viewpoints of others staying in the past. Be civil with each other and remember that James Bond will return.
  • CrabKeyCrabKey
    Posts: 1,851
    A discussion ends when it ends, not because someone decides it should and tells others to move on. Don't like it? Don't respond.
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