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Connery being rough in DN is a good example.
Lazenby going ring shopping/the romantic montage in general.
Brosnan in TND saying "Filthy habit."
Moore in LALD smoking a cigar.
Etc.
I don't judge that first performance through the lens of 24 later performances because that performance in 1961 got us to Bond 2021. I see an actor creating a role for the first time. He didn't have the advantage of a predecessor.
And I do like the cold blooded killing of Dent. But then I like to see that aspect of Bond, up close and personal, which is a reason I like the car kicking scene in FYEO. I
Well said. I think Connery's great in DR NO, one of my favorite portrayals of the character. I love his ruthlessness, his cold confidence, and overall roughness. I think Connery's early performances were pretty faithful to Fleming's character, but with some dry humor added.
One quote; “Fetch my shoes.”
Yeah, Connery’s Bond was a dick in that first film. That’s not a put down on him either; if anything it’s a testament to Connery’s skill as an actor that people found the portrayal compelling enough despite that.
And its been almost 9 years since SP, or put into context in the same amount of time from Philosophers Stone to Deathly Hallows Part 1 we recieved only 1 Bond film.
I should write an angry letter to The Times.
To put the length between now and SP, I’d go with it’s the same as Connery’s entire Bond run with EON, from DN to DAF!
Not that it actually means anything let’s be honest.
I thought we’d resigned ourselves to the idea that Bond 26 will arrive when EON are ready to do so, and move on.
To distance the new Bond and new Bond era far enough away from the hugely successful Daniel Craig Bond films.
Well they didn't have to worry about Daniel Craig going through puberty.
Bond rejecting Xenia in GE.
There’s nothing inarticulate about describing a character as acting like a dick, it’s a description which is perfectly vivid and communicates how a character acts. Folks might well disagree with the description, but thinking it’s not an applicable descriptive term shows a lack of comprehension.
Yes, we agree; I said that too, perhaps you missed it otherwise I’m sure you’d disagree. What I do prefer is that more refined portrayal of the character from FRWL onwards, I’m sure Connery and the producers did too as that’s what they developed and stuck with.
Yeah absolutely: even beyond Bond’s demeanour of being aloof and humourless for the most part, as well as ‘fetch’ he also murders a guard for no reason whatsoever when they’re hiding under the water (the guy hadn’t discovered them and wasn’t about to), and he gets Quarrel killed with a stupid plan, then shows no guilt, remorse or even sorrow for it.
But as you say, he’s magnetic and it’s clearly a star making performance. They then roughed off those edges in the following films and turned him into an icon.
Anyway, Dalton likes this movie so...
The Tarzan Yell and Moore in Clown Costume in OP
Brosnan lusting over Elektra's corpse after killing her in TWINE
Dalton playing bump cars and roller coaster with Kara in circus in TLD
Moore patting Blofeld's head in FYEO
Craig acting out in Blofeld's headquarters as Madeleine watches the footage of her father's death in SPECTRE
The whole Bond (Craig) and Blofeld exchange in prison cell in NTTD (almost Benoit Blanc)
Can't think of an example for Connery, maybe except the scene of Bond making out with himself in DAF, that's a bit weird, even if someone puts that scene in a Bond novel/book, it would still be too silly for Bond.
Dick is a slang word for a man who is mean, stupid, unpleasant, and annoying. Bond is not that.
You're obviously welcome to see it another way as it's all a matter of opinion and none of us have a more valid one than anyone else, but don't call me inarticulate just because you picked out one single description I used (amongst many others) which you didn't care for for some reason.
Sure.
Well, Bond can be a bit of a b*stard in general, usually when it comes to difficult decisions in his profession. There are times when he’s not necessarily gentlemanly and has a streak of cruelty and arrogance. He can purposely wind villains (or indeed certain people) up for his own benefit too.
I can see where some people are coming from with DN. I think there are times like in the video shown where Connery’s performance is a bit too aloof/stiff. I think we could have done with a moment where Bond shows a bit more remorse over Quarrel’s death in the actual scene (the ‘fetch my shoes’ line isn’t great either). Again, Bond is just a bit too often one step ahead for me. These are minor misfires in my opinion though. The film definitely gives Bond a streak of humour and confidence, and Connery plays it well. We get moments like the dinner scene where there’s at least a sense Bond is more concerned about avenging Quarrel/Strangways, and derides No’s ambitions as being that of a madman, which shows Bond has some humanity. Again, it’s just an early adaptation of the character.
Yeah, and of course Fleming’s Bond disliked killing in cold blood. I think the literary Bond would have still killed Dent, but internally legitimise it as a way of avenging Strangways (at the very least he’d feel somewhat conflicted about it). Obviously that’s not somewhere the films wanted to go at the time.
True, yet even the worst Bond movie in Craig era is better than the best HP movie.
I said the word is inarticulate. Didn't mention you.
Agreed.
Agreed on that!
Quality over quantity....
Try Prisoner of Azkaban, it truly stands out with great director Alfonso Cuaron. A great quirky, adventure film. But I agree, all of David Yates Potter films are dry as dust.
I’ll check it out!
Yeah, I’d agree too. I like the first three HP films incidentally (any of them beyond that I really don’t like. I also have horrible memories of being made to read some of those books. Absolutely terrible in my opinion).
Thanks