Where does Bond go after Craig?

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    007HallY wrote: »
    Yeah, Redmayne's performance in Jupiter Ascending is actually unintentional comedy. He was at the height of his powers, when he unfortunately did that film. But then again, the whole film is unintentional comedy too.
    Channing Tatum and Vanessa Kirby are lucky their career still survived after that film. One could say that was the film that ended Mila Kunis' rise.

    I remember Redmayne being a relatively big up and coming actor around that mid to late 2010’s period. The guy even won an Oscar. But yeah, his performance in Jupiter Ascending was downright embarrassing. Even Fantastic Beasts hasn’t gone anywhere (not his fault in itself, but I don’t think he quite carried those films as one would suspect with his fame). He likely had a kid or is concentrating on theatre or whatever, but he’s not really done anything as major as one would expect past 2020. Maybe I’m being harsh on him, but it’s always been a bit strange to me that he got as far as he did. Maybe The Jackal will change my opinion of him.
    Covid lockdown obviously threw a spanner into the works for many projects, I don't think you can point to anything around that area and say a gap suggests a career issue. Looking at the two-year gap between the first Fantastic Beasts film and the second, the four-year gap between 2 and 3 I assume was caused by Covid. They're big films requiring a decent amount of PR appearances, it's not surprising he hasn't done a lot of other projects in between. He was the lead in critically acclaimed The Trial of the Chicago 7,and though his role wasn't the scene-stealer that Sasha Baron Cohen's was, he was fine in the part.

    I'm not a huge fan of his, I don't want to see him as Bond, but I think it's just biased to say say that he's having problems. If he was in a big hit I imagine people would be saying he's too successful to be Bond.

    Oh I’m most likely biased and you’re probably right. Still, it’s always surprised me how little he’s done since. The guy was in a lot of big movies at one point and as I said was a big thing. In that sense he’s probably too successful to be Bond. Usually an actor that big is either a lot busier or a bit more pickey about projects but will be in something that’s more notable.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Yeah, Redmayne's performance in Jupiter Ascending is actually unintentional comedy. He was at the height of his powers, when he unfortunately did that film. But then again, the whole film is unintentional comedy too.
    Channing Tatum and Vanessa Kirby are lucky their career still survived after that film. One could say that was the film that ended Mila Kunis' rise.

    Jupiter Ascending was a definite career inhibitor. No one came out of it entirely unscathed, I feel.
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Yeah, Redmayne's performance in Jupiter Ascending is actually unintentional comedy. He was at the height of his powers, when he unfortunately did that film. But then again, the whole film is unintentional comedy too.
    Channing Tatum and Vanessa Kirby are lucky their career still survived after that film. One could say that was the film that ended Mila Kunis' rise.

    Jupiter Ascending was a definite career inhibitor. No one came out of it entirely unscathed, I feel.

    It's sad because it was actually a brave move for the studio to try and create an original property rather than dusting off an old IP for a revamp.

    Crap film though.
  • ArapahoeBondFanArapahoeBondFan Colorado
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    He's got a very strong whiff of the public school about him. Granted, Bond is a public schoolboy, but he's got more of a rough edge to him. I imagine that's why Eon has always avoided such actors.
    What does this mean for those of us not British?

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    He's got a very strong whiff of the public school about him. Granted, Bond is a public schoolboy, but he's got more of a rough edge to him. I imagine that's why Eon has always avoided such actors.
    What does this mean for those of us not British?

    "Public school" in British culture is, loosely, what "private/preparatory school" means here in the States.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    As does 'private school', confusingly.
  • edited November 11 Posts: 579
    Hopefully EON will wait for Nolan to finish his next movie and then they will hire him to write and direct BOND 26, which then could be released in the Summer of 2029.
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    Because Bond has a tendency to follow trends, I'm glad that a film based on the early Connery films will play well in the States. Time to get back to a self assured in control alpha male who can save the world, fix anything and do whatever he pleases, after all he does have a License to Kill. He can drink, smoke, gamble, cheat, have casual sex whenever and with whomever he wants, surround himself with luxury items and slap women on the butt and get down to "Man Talk" without worrying about the consequences. Good times for us old Bond fans. EON.....go for it!
  • ArapahoeBondFanArapahoeBondFan Colorado
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    BMB007 wrote: »
    He's got a very strong whiff of the public school about him. Granted, Bond is a public schoolboy, but he's got more of a rough edge to him. I imagine that's why Eon has always avoided such actors.
    What does this mean for those of us not British?

    "Public school" in British culture is, loosely, what "private/preparatory school" means here in the States.

    That makes no sense to my ears! Haha we have private, public and charter/prep.
    But it makes more sense in context now.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    It's so difficult to actually figure who could direct Bond 26, it seems everyone is getting rather busy at the moment!

    Maybe EON needs to wait it out until someones schedule opens up, because at the moment Brad Bird is working on Incredibles 3, Mark Mylodd is involved with the Harry Potter TV series, Nolan has a new project, Denis has Dune, Edgar is directing The Running Man in 2025 and has the sydney sweeney Barbarella movie after that, and Campbell is directing a film with Daisy Ridley. It seems like there's very few options who are worthy of doing a Bond relaunch justice.
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    Brad Bird? At this point?
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    I know, it's so hard with only five directors available!
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Brad Bird? At this point?

    I am a huge Brad Bird fan and very much enjoyed MI: Ghost Protocol; but his career in live action films seems to have fizzled. I know he’s involved in several animation projects, including “ Ray Gun” and Incredibles 3
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    The director could potentially be like the next Bond actor - that’s to say there might be a sense of ‘huh?’ from many before they see what they come out with (after which ideally there’ll be an element of hindsight where the qualities they displayed in their previous work which make them suited to Bond become clearer).

    I mean, much like the lead actor it’s about picking from a pool of candidates who are there, have the potential/interest, and are available. Past a certain point it could be any relatively established name, and I’m sure any have the potential to make a great Bond film and put their own unique spin on the direction. For every Chris Nolan, or Dennis Villeneuve or whoever who either won’t be picked or aren’t available you have a heap of other names (again, who might or might not do it). Take your pick - David Michod, Yann Demange, Steve McQueen, Gareth Edwards, Bart Layton (and those are only those who have been rumoured publicly - there are many other names).
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    007HallY wrote: »
    The director could potentially be like the next Bond actor - that’s to say there might be a sense of ‘huh?’ from many before they see what they come out with (after which ideally there’ll be an element of hindsight where the qualities they displayed in their previous work which make them suited to Bond become clearer).

    I don't doubt it, I would never have guessed Fukunaga, I can't remember if I'd even heard of him or not although I obviously knew his work.
  • edited November 12 Posts: 4,132
    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    The director could potentially be like the next Bond actor - that’s to say there might be a sense of ‘huh?’ from many before they see what they come out with (after which ideally there’ll be an element of hindsight where the qualities they displayed in their previous work which make them suited to Bond become clearer).

    I don't doubt it, I would never have guessed Fukunaga, I can't remember if I'd even heard of him or not although I obviously knew his work.

    I kinda knew his name from Beasts of No Nation and True Detective. But yeah, I was pretty much in the same boat. Compared to Danny Boyle I didn’t know much about him or his work.

    It’s a case where no one on our end truly knows what we’re going to get with a director when they do Bond anyway, even if a Nolan or Villeneuve did it. I suspect few people who knew Lewis Gilbert’s name could have guessed he’d do the type of Bond movies he did. A good bit of it is about what EON want from the specific film anyway.
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    007HallY wrote: »
    The director could potentially be like the next Bond actor - that’s to say there might be a sense of ‘huh?’ from many before they see what they come out with (after which ideally there’ll be an element of hindsight where the qualities they displayed in their previous work which make them suited to Bond become clearer).

    I mean, much like the lead actor it’s about picking from a pool of candidates who are there, have the potential/interest, and are available. Past a certain point it could be any relatively established name, and I’m sure any have the potential to make a great Bond film and put their own unique spin on the direction. For every Chris Nolan, or Dennis Villeneuve or whoever who either won’t be picked or aren’t available you have a heap of other names (again, who might or might not do it). Take your pick - David Michod, Yann Demange, Steve McQueen, Gareth Edwards, Bart Layton (and those are only those who have been rumoured publicly - there are many other names).

    I guess a lot of people are afraid that they will hire another Lee Tamahori.
  • edited November 12 Posts: 4,132
    007HallY wrote: »
    The director could potentially be like the next Bond actor - that’s to say there might be a sense of ‘huh?’ from many before they see what they come out with (after which ideally there’ll be an element of hindsight where the qualities they displayed in their previous work which make them suited to Bond become clearer).

    I mean, much like the lead actor it’s about picking from a pool of candidates who are there, have the potential/interest, and are available. Past a certain point it could be any relatively established name, and I’m sure any have the potential to make a great Bond film and put their own unique spin on the direction. For every Chris Nolan, or Dennis Villeneuve or whoever who either won’t be picked or aren’t available you have a heap of other names (again, who might or might not do it). Take your pick - David Michod, Yann Demange, Steve McQueen, Gareth Edwards, Bart Layton (and those are only those who have been rumoured publicly - there are many other names).

    I guess a lot of people are afraid that they will hire another Lee Tamahori.

    I wouldn’t say that Tamahori’s a bad director. Perhaps not the best suited to bigger commercial films, but he’s made some acclaimed movies. Even great directors have made bad films (I wouldn’t even call DAD a bad film necessarily, at least not as bad as many claim it to be, and it’s certainly not Tamahori’s worst). I’m sure with a different script/direction for DAD he’d have made a great Bond film.

    But I understand. It could be a case where maybe the director isn’t suited to a particular element of the Bond film, or the film/script isn’t as strong or thought out as it could be, or something gets rushed etc. As I said a big part of this is about who’s available, but for what it’s worth I think EON will always get a competent director (and yes, all the Bond directors have been competent even if I don’t like all their decisions - directing isn’t a job just anyone can do at this level. They’ll get someone who can get the film made and to a certain level of quality).
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    I agree, the most important thing is that we get someone who takes risks. That's why I thought Damien Chazelle was at least worth considering - the film wouldn't be a typical blockbuster.
  • SeveSeve The island of Lemoy
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    007HallY wrote: »
    I really can’t imagine what a Steve McQueen Bond film would look like. To be fair to him I think he could do it.

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  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Being chauffeured by Tibbett
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    Now that's a NTTD I can get behind.
  • DwayneDwayne New York City
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    A nice one @Seve. I'd pay to see that.

    ...maybe in the next lifetime?
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    I agree, the most important thing is that we get someone who takes risks. That's why I thought Damien Chazelle was at least worth considering - the film wouldn't be a typical blockbuster.

    Let's be specific. What does taking a risk mean? What does that look like in a Bond film?
  • BMT164BMT164 So Cal
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    Great art, would be blockbuster!
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    CrabKey wrote: »
    I agree, the most important thing is that we get someone who takes risks. That's why I thought Damien Chazelle was at least worth considering - the film wouldn't be a typical blockbuster.

    Let's be specific. What does taking a risk mean? What does that look like in a Bond film?

    Aardman Animation doing the titles. ‘Cheese, Grommit!’
  • Posts: 4,132
    James Bond: The Musical perhaps?
  • ArapahoeBondFanArapahoeBondFan Colorado
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    CrabKey wrote: »
    I agree, the most important thing is that we get someone who takes risks. That's why I thought Damien Chazelle was at least worth considering - the film wouldn't be a typical blockbuster.

    Let's be specific. What does taking a risk mean? What does that look like in a Bond film?

    Aardman Animation doing the titles. ‘Cheese, Grommit!’

    This made my morning!
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    For the late James Bond producer Albert “Cuddy” Broccoli, receiving the Irving G. Thalberg Memorial Award was a true high point in his career.
    Not a good start to the article. Does no one proofread?
  • edited November 13 Posts: 4,132
    For the late James Bond producer Albert “Cuddy” Broccoli, receiving the Irving G. Thalberg Memorial Award was a true high point in his career.
    Not a good start to the article. Does no one proofread?

    That and:
    But the spotlight on them has intensified as the world awaits official word on Bond No. 8.

    Perhaps they were counting David Niven… or Sean Connery twice. Oh well….

    Interesting reading about them wanting to be brave in uncertain times for cinema though. No idea what that means for Bond, but I think that sense of ambition is needed for a new era.
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