Where does Bond go after Craig?

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  • 007HallY wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    Seems that Chalamet wore pink clothing to the Berlin premiere of 'A Complete Unknown'

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    I'm guessing that's what @Stamper is referring.

    Regardless of Chalamet, why should something like this exclude an actor from certain future roles?

    No one who wears pink can ever play Bond.

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    Just shows what a silly comment that earlier poster made.
  • edited February 15 Posts: 4,576
    007HallY wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    Seems that Chalamet wore pink clothing to the Berlin premiere of 'A Complete Unknown'

    dxftencr11dz.jpg

    I'm guessing that's what @Stamper is referring.

    Regardless of Chalamet, why should something like this exclude an actor from certain future roles?

    No one who wears pink can ever play Bond.

    GettyImages-1343682802.jpg

    Pierce-Brosnan-looked-younger-than-ever-4346528.jpg?r=1666039120155

    James-Bond-Thunderball-Camp-Collar-Shirt.jpg

    Just shows what a silly comment that earlier poster made.

    I didn't even have to bring out the pink tie/white suit combo from DAF. Or the frilly tuxedo shirt from OHMSS (not pink, but a horrible shirt). I'd be surprised if Moore didn't have a pink tie or shirt somewhere during his Bond run, but I can't remember off the top of my head.

    But yes, it was a silly comment. Not that I think Chalamet is a suitable actor for Bond, or that Craig/Brosnan's clothes are to my preference in those pics.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    To be fair those middle two are fuchsia.

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    Perhaps our next style-conscious Bond can wear jeans pulled down below his arse allowing him show plenty of his designer undies. I'll take that ruffled shirt any day.
  • edited February 15 Posts: 4,576
    CrabKey wrote: »
    Perhaps our next style-conscious Bond can wear jeans pulled down below his arse allowing him show plenty of his designer undies. I'll take that ruffled shirt any day.

    I feel pulled down jeans are a bit too late 90s/early 2000s for the next Bond 😉 If anything we’re back into the territory of Moore’s flares. But agreed, frilly shirt is preferable
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Depending on the day Campbell seems to switch from fully enthusiastic about returning, to "there's probably better people to do that now".


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    007HallY wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    Perhaps our next style-conscious Bond can wear jeans pulled down below his arse allowing him show plenty of his designer undies. I'll take that ruffled shirt any day.

    I feel pulled down jeans are a bit too late 90s/early 2000s for the next Bond 😉 If anything we’re back into the territory of Moore’s flares. But agreed, frilly shirt is preferable

    Indeed, I first saw it in the 90s and thought it dumb then. And still seeing it. No, I don't think we'll see a young Bond dressing as such. But that shirt that may seem horrible to us now, was fashionable then. Bond is always in style, regardless of the decade.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Well to quote Nanny McPhee,

    "When you need me but do not want me, then I must stay. When you want me but no longer need me, then I have to go".

    Lol, my Daughter loved that movie; having seen it dozens of times, that quote comes to mind when thinking about Campbell returning for a third film.
    EoN may want a hot , prestige director but what the may need is a tested director who gets Bond and has successfully launched two very different actors.

    Once done he can move on and new blood can take the reins .
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    007HallY wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    Seems that Chalamet wore pink clothing to the Berlin premiere of 'A Complete Unknown'

    dxftencr11dz.jpg

    I'm guessing that's what @Stamper is referring.

    Regardless of Chalamet, why should something like this exclude an actor from certain future roles?

    No one who wears pink can ever play Bond.

    GettyImages-1343682802.jpg

    Pierce-Brosnan-looked-younger-than-ever-4346528.jpg?r=1666039120155

    James-Bond-Thunderball-Camp-Collar-Shirt.jpg

    That Brosnan look is so good.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Might be controversial, but with the way the last film ended, with Bond dying, I think the next film has to be a triumphant celebration. CR came after the 40th year 20th film celebrations of DAD, so it made sense they went more grounded and gritty. But that contrast doesn't work now because Bond died in the last film, the last time we saw him he was saying goodbye.

    It's like if you stand in the shadow of a tall building you can no longer see your own shadow. Trying to establish a grounded, gritty Bond in the wake of Bond dying, there's no contrast. Whereas with the gritty Bond Craig portrayed in CR it worked because of the contrast from the celebrations of DAD.
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    You don't want too many pink balloons! Go for more of a showcase, a balance of light and dark.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    You don't want too many pink balloons! Go for more of a showcase, a balance of light and dark.

    The Living Daylights was an example of this, it works.
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    You don't want too many pink balloons! Go for more of a showcase, a balance of light and dark.

    The Living Daylights was an example of this, it works.

    I'm with on the contrast aspect. Are you saying no gritiness at all? Balancing that with a charming side feels deserving. He's a tough guy and a mean spy.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited February 16 Posts: 8,610
    You don't want too many pink balloons! Go for more of a showcase, a balance of light and dark.

    The Living Daylights was an example of this, it works.

    I'm with on the contrast aspect. Are you saying no gritiness at all? Balancing that with a charming side feels deserving. He's a tough guy and a mean spy.

    Bond lost his brother, his best friend and said goodbye to his family all in one movie, some heavy stuff. The next film needs to prove he is capable of making it out alive, he's still the hero we all remember. When was the last time we got a triumphant finale? And not just a tagged on scene at the end, but a TLD style giving "the boot" to necros, stopping the russians on the bridge, parachuting the jeep out of the falling plane and then driving off to Karachi for dinner - BOOYAH!!
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    Given America's current state of affairs and the mood of the world, a vibrant Bond might be the sort of escapism we need now.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    CrabKey wrote: »
    Given America's current state of affairs and the mood of the world, a vibrant Bond might be the sort of escapism we need now.

    Bingo.
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    Sounds to me like you want a full on action hero with gags and flashy things. I rather play the part with depth, and still bring fireworks. 😏
  • slide_99slide_99 USA
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    The producers have been making the same mistakes for a long time now: pursuing Oscar-caliber talent instead the right talent for Bond, boring and contrived soap opera/revenge plots, pointless meta-commentary of Bond's relevancy, padded runtimes, taking tropes and plot beats from other franchises and them putting them into Bond.

    I have a bad feeling that they're just going to do all this over again, only with a different actor. I don't get the sense that they just want to make normal Bond movies. Frankly I'm skeptical if they even know how at this point. Barbara probably thinks Skyfall is the best Bond movie ever, since she made it three times in a row.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    CrabKey wrote: »
    Given America's current state of affairs and the mood of the world, a vibrant Bond might be the sort of escapism we need now.

    Agreed. I'd love a Bond film that provides some distraction, and for which détente can be beautiful again (while bubbles tickle the lady's Tchaikovsky.😊)
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    Depending on the day Campbell seems to switch from fully enthusiastic about returning, to "there's probably better people to do that now".


    the more they wait around the more they need someone that is safe to get the job done and successfully start a new era.
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    Sounds to me like you want a full on action hero with gags and flashy things. I rather play the part with depth, and still bring fireworks. 😏

    No one here hinted at a one dimensional Bond.
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    slide_99 wrote: »
    The producers have been making the same mistakes for a long time now: pursuing Oscar-caliber talent instead the right talent for Bond, boring and contrived soap opera/revenge plots, pointless meta-commentary of Bond's relevancy, padded runtimes, taking tropes and plot beats from other franchises and them putting them into Bond.

    I have a bad feeling that they're just going to do all this over again, only with a different actor. I don't get the sense that they just want to make normal Bond movies. Frankly I'm skeptical if they even know how at this point. Barbara probably thinks Skyfall is the best Bond movie ever, since she made it three times in a row.

    I definitely agree on most of this. There is such a thing as over-thinking or being a little too self-important when it comes to Bond. The series works the best as art when it is self contained, and discards the soap operatics.

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    CrabKey wrote: »
    Sounds to me like you want a full on action hero with gags and flashy things. I rather play the part with depth, and still bring fireworks. 😏

    No one here hinted at a one dimensional Bond.

    Oh. I must haven seen things differently.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I’ve been away for the weekend and what with this and the thread about Bond’s death (again), it sometimes feels like it would be nice to visit a Bond forum where folks actually like the Bond films!
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    What we saw in the last few movies wasn't depth, it was melodrama. Bond throwing Madeline onto the train and saying "you'll never see me again" and then turning up at her parents house and professing his undying love. We're already playing in the shallow end of the pool, we might as well have some fun with it.

    Bond 25, whatever else you might say, left the series on a downbeat note due to Bond being killed off and theres no getting around that. Bond 26 can have serious moments, real jeopardy and complex, developed characters but the overall experience needs to be uplifting and triumphant. The message needs to be hopeful, that whatever craziness is going on in the world and whatever conflicts are happening, Bond is STILL here and he's back on his game.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I think if someone doesn’t know what the last film is even called I’m not going to take their analysis of it seriously.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    mtm wrote: »
    I think if someone doesn’t know what the last film is even called I’m not going to take their analysis of it seriously.

    I know we don’t always see eye to eye, but on this matter I cannot agree more @mtm

    Why can’t you call the twenty fifth EON Bond film NTTD or even No Time To Die @Mendes4Lyfe ?
    After all that is the title of the film. All the other films you refer to by there title, but not with NTTD.

  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Benny wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I think if someone doesn’t know what the last film is even called I’m not going to take their analysis of it seriously.

    I know we don’t always see eye to eye, but on this matter I cannot agree more @mtm

    Why can’t you call the twenty fifth EON Bond film NTTD or even No Time To Die @Mendes4Lyfe ?
    After all that is the title of the film. All the other films you refer to by there title, but not with NTTD.

    Agreed. I prefer to call my pet peeves by their names. That-Film-Between-FYEO-And-OP-That-Isn't-An-EON-Bond-Film-And-Shows-It is simply Never Say Never Again, or NSNA. I'm-Only-Here-For-A-Glimmer-Because-There's-Not-Much-Else is TWINE. I'm not a child.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    I'm hoping Risico combines the PTS action of B18, lean-ness of B02, female beauty of B04 and soundtrack of B15 - but nothing like B20, obvs.
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