Where does Bond go after Craig?

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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited January 2022 Posts: 16,311
    I kind of feel like that's what Fukunaga was, to be honest. He's not exactly a big name on the Mendes/Boyle level.
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
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    mtm wrote: »
    I kind of feel like that's what Fukunaga was, to be honest. He's not exactly a big name on the Mendes/Boyle level.

    Yeah, my point kind of bites it's own tail because it certainly seems like it wasn't Fukunaga who pulled Craig, Broccoli and Wilson towards the heavy connections to SP and that ending kicking and screaming... And I had kind of forgotten that most of his work was in TV before. You are absolutely right that pre-NTTD he was in the second camp rather than the first.

    And I certainly wouldn't mind him returning.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    I'm almost positive that they will offer Bond 26 to Fukunaga first, since he came in at the last minute and kept the film on track.

    Not every director would have been willing to step into a project at the eleventh hour with existing sets, a more-or-less set script, and a story which leaned heavily upon a preceding film that was panned.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    To be fair when Cary came onboard the "script" was all up in the air. For example, yes they wanted to kill off Bond but they had literally no idea how to do it. Anyway Cary said he loves continuity so perhaps he was the right guy to wrap it up.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    echo wrote: »
    I'm almost positive that they will offer Bond 26 to Fukunaga first, since he came in at the last minute and kept the film on track.

    Barbara has already said it is his if he wants it.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    He had a pitch too.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    QBranch wrote: »
    He had a pitch too.

    Which makes me think he does want it.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    In a recent Variety zoom interview he said he'd love to come back even tho he's still tired from the making of NTTD. He said the best part is being part of this huge family working with literally the best of the best in the business.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    matt_u wrote: »
    In a recent Variety zoom interview he said he'd love to come back even tho he's still tired from the making of NTTD.

    Five years of rest should take care of that.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    echo wrote: »
    I'm almost positive that they will offer Bond 26 to Fukunaga first, since he came in at the last minute and kept the film on track.

    Barbara has already said it is his if he wants it.

    Did she really? I've not heard that, that's not exactly playing her cards close to her chest.
    Personally I'd hope he doesn't come back: it's a good film but it was lacking in the Bond feel or moments which stuff like CR and SF never forgot to include.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    I'm leary of Fukunaga coming back. A lot of people wanted Mendes back after SF and look what happened there! I suppose the difference is that Mendes didn't want to come back and seems to have been persuaded against his better judgement, whereas Fukunaga appears to be happy to do another. On balance, I think I'd prefer the clean slate to extend to the director too, though.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I must admit if it were 2013 or so again and the option to get the director of Skyfall back was suddenly, unexpectedly on the table I think I'd still leap at it! :)
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    Venutius wrote: »
    I'm leary of Fukunaga coming back. A lot of people wanted Mendes back after SF and look what happened there! I suppose the difference is that Mendes didn't want to come back and seems to have been persuaded against his better judgement, whereas Fukunaga appears to be happy to do another. On balance, I think I'd prefer the clean slate to extend to the director too, though.

    I'd prefer a clean slate too, mainly with the writers. I'd have no issues with Fukunaga coming back, as long as no one associated with the script for NTTD came back.
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
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    Venutius wrote: »
    I'm leary of Fukunaga coming back. A lot of people wanted Mendes back after SF and look what happened there! I suppose the difference is that Mendes didn't want to come back and seems to have been persuaded against his better judgement, whereas Fukunaga appears to be happy to do another. On balance, I think I'd prefer the clean slate to extend to the director too, though.

    I'd prefer a clean slate too, mainly with the writers. I'd have no issues with Fukunaga coming back, as long as no one associated with the script for NTTD came back.

    Fukunaga has both a screenplay and a story credit for NTTD, so that would rule him out and I would assume he would want as much if not more writing input if he were to return. As has been mentioned before, his first meeting with Barbara Broccoli were reportedly about a reboot after SP. That sounds like a story pitch first and foremost and he probably still has that in a drawer.
    However, we also know he came in late for this film and eventhough there is a "story by" next to his name, we know that a lot of the big decisions - especially the one that is most divisive - were already made and he was apparently mostly tasked with connecting the dots that were set in stone.
  • Give me a one off oldman Dalton Bond
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    Give me a one off oldman Dalton Bond

    Yep, I'll take one of these too.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Give me a one off oldman Dalton Bond

    Yep, I'll take one of these too.

    If Harrison Ford and other actors are reprising their roles decades later, I feel no other James Bond should come back more than Timothy Dalton. He’s earned it.
  • KenAustinKenAustin United States
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Give me a one off oldman Dalton Bond

    Yep, I'll take one of these too.

    If Harrison Ford and other actors are reprising their roles decades later, I feel no other James Bond should come back more than Timothy Dalton. He’s earned it.

    As long as he doesn't do any more wheelies in big rigs LOL
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Mark me down as someone who doesn't particularly want to see an old Bond. Maybe a Connery around the time he made The Rock or something, but Dalton's older than Connery was when he retired and he isn't exactly a Connery-level movie star: no thanks.
  • mtm wrote: »
    Mark me down as someone who doesn't particularly want to see an old Bond. Maybe a Connery around the time he made The Rock or something, but Dalton's older than Connery was when he retired and he isn't exactly a Connery-level movie star: no thanks.

    I agree. Much as I love Dalton, I feel as if doing a move like this would be nothing more than pandering to Nostaligia, plus it would seem like EON cashing in on this trend of bringing back older actors to play their iconic characters, i.e. Michael Keaton back as Batman, and Tobey McGuire and Andrew Garfield returning for Spider-Man.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited January 2022 Posts: 3,147
    Give me a one off oldman Dalton Bond

    Yep, I'll take one of these too.
    #Methree.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Venutius wrote: »
    Give me a one off oldman Dalton Bond

    Yep, I'll take one of these too.
    #Methree.

    #Mesofourny.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    I'd say 'hold the fruit', but these days I'd get a ban. Oh, wait...
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Venutius wrote: »
    I'd say 'hold the fruit', but these days I'd get a ban. Oh, wait...

    It is going to happen sooner or later. Unless you have some kind of deal.
  • KenAustinKenAustin United States
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    Venutius wrote: »
    I'd say 'hold the fruit', but these days I'd get a ban. Oh, wait...

    It is going to happen sooner or later. Unless you have some kind of deal.

    LMFAO
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    Venutius wrote: »
    I'd say 'hold the fruit', but these days I'd get a ban. Oh, wait...

    Somedays I'm genuinely shocked that I'm still here.
  • How about going to space again? I’ve never had an issue with the idea in principle, Bond’s always been full of mental ideas like that. To be honest if Fleming had lived to see the space race really start heating up then it strikes me as exactly the sort of thing he’d do. The biggest problem with MR imo is that they didn’t really do anything exciting with the idea. We just got some naff Star Wars inspired laser guns sprucing up a fairly standard finale.

    I think they could easily come up with a new story involving commercial space travel, the billionaire space race would make it feel quite timely and relevant. Maybe a super rich baddy who’s been investing in their own shuttles could storm the ISS and start installing some sort of doomsday weapon on there, or using it for some kind of evil scheme, not clever enough to think of one. Bond could be sent up to try and rescue the hostages and avoid a full on military response. They could even go to the ISS for real, if they had the budget. Only issue I can think of is that it might end up feeling a bit derivative of that Tom Cruise film that’s coming out, depending on what that’s like.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    How about going to space again? I’ve never had an issue with the idea in principle, Bond’s always been full of mental ideas like that. To be honest if Fleming had lived to see the space race really start heating up then it strikes me as exactly the sort of thing he’d do. The biggest problem with MR imo is that they didn’t really do anything exciting with the idea. We just got some naff Star Wars inspired laser guns sprucing up a fairly standard finale.

    I think they could easily come up with a new story involving commercial space travel, the billionaire space race would make it feel quite timely and relevant. Maybe a super rich baddy who’s been investing in their own shuttles could storm the ISS and start installing some sort of doomsday weapon on there, or using it for some kind of evil scheme, not clever enough to think of one. Bond could be sent up to try and rescue the hostages and avoid a full on military response. They could even go to the ISS for real, if they had the budget. Only issue I can think of is that it might end up feeling a bit derivative of that Tom Cruise film that’s coming out, depending on what that’s like.

    I am all for it. Great thinking as always. I also wouldn t mind if Q invented a time machine.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited January 2022 Posts: 7,546
    It's not a stretch to imagine Bond going to space in the modern era. It does feel a little limited to think about what he could actually do in space.

    Maybe the Russians secretly attached something to the ISS to sabotage it in some way, and Bond has to hitch a ride up there, find, and disarm it; maybe there is some hand-to-hand space combat where a guy gets strangled with some sort of space tube... I could see it. Stabbed, maybe? With a... space knife?

    It would be a cool way to modernize the underwater combat a la FYEO or TB.
  • It's not a stretch to imagine Bond going to space in the modern era. It does feel a little limited to think about what he could actually do in space.

    Yeah that’s the issue. Maybe it’s the sort of thing that’d better suit a PTS or a finale like MR, rather than a whole film. I do think you could get a good 90 minute thriller out of the idea (like Gravity a few years back). But I guess there’s the issue of would it really feel like a Bond film. Not much room for all the usual trappings.
    How about going to space again? I’ve never had an issue with the idea in principle, Bond’s always been full of mental ideas like that. To be honest if Fleming had lived to see the space race really start heating up then it strikes me as exactly the sort of thing he’d do. The biggest problem with MR imo is that they didn’t really do anything exciting with the idea. We just got some naff Star Wars inspired laser guns sprucing up a fairly standard finale.

    I think they could easily come up with a new story involving commercial space travel, the billionaire space race would make it feel quite timely and relevant. Maybe a super rich baddy who’s been investing in their own shuttles could storm the ISS and start installing some sort of doomsday weapon on there, or using it for some kind of evil scheme, not clever enough to think of one. Bond could be sent up to try and rescue the hostages and avoid a full on military response. They could even go to the ISS for real, if they had the budget. Only issue I can think of is that it might end up feeling a bit derivative of that Tom Cruise film that’s coming out, depending on what that’s like.

    I am all for it. Great thinking as always. I also wouldn t mind if Q invented a time machine.

    They could do a Life On Mars sort of thing. Modern Bond time travels back and meets a digitally resurrected Connery Bond (scary to think that might actually happen one day). Connery Bond could play the Gene Hunt role. Politically incorrect geezer who thinks the modern Bond is a sissy because he doesn’t smoke or slap the women he shags.
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