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If anything I think Cubby would be proud of the way the series has gone.
FRWL but OHMSS one of my favorites.
The only thing I didn't like was how Spectre tied in with Silvas story. I can understand how Quantum and all their agents ties in with Spectre because its pretty much the 21st century's SMERSH, but I felt there was no need for Silvas story to be tied in with Spectre. I would have liked Silvas story with M to have been separate.
The picture quality was really good, Thomas Newman score was good, but it had so many repeated scores from Skyfall maybe its time to try a new guy. Sam Mendes to me has proven himself to be the best Bond directer to direct back to back Bond films. I do not mind at all if he came back for a 3rd film.
If Daniel Craig doesn't do another Bond film I would be ok with it because Spectre is a great film for him to go out on, but lets hope its not his last film.
@Sandy for technical adviser on B25! It beggars belief, then, that they did not have Q fish the portable genome machine out his pocket to process the ring. Q is just neurotic enough, with a side of OCD, for people to buy that he would have the machine on him.
Lol that's right.
Poor Tanner ...was probably home babysitting Q's cats.
- It starts and Bond is out on an assigned mission from M in the PTS and ends up making a major blow to Quantum as he yet again foils one of their plans.
- Those in Quantum are upset with Mr. White and Quantum begins to fall apart.
- Then we see Mr. White go into hiding and take something with him that gives him leverage over SPECTRE and Blofeld. Then maybe he sends something to Madeline Swann as well.
- Then we see a meeting where Blofeld takes control of the remains of Quantum, forms SPECTRE, and states that part of one of their next major plans they will be exacting revenge on James Bond (similar to what they did in FRWL).
- Then we cut forward after the PTS to some time later after SPECTRE has grown and we see the beginnings of the plot where they aim to gain revenge on Bond.
- Eventually the film ends with Bond having foiled their plan again and Blofeld's on the run.
No personal backstory between Bond/Blofeld.
No contrived plot where the events from CR, QoS, and SF were solely orchestrated by Blofeld to harm Bond because of a childhood jealousy.
It gives SPECTRE a reason to actually want to find Mr. White & Swann so badly.
The ending is more like the ending of FRWL, TB, YOLT, OHMSS, etc. Blofeld's not simply arrested - meaning that in Bond 25 we'll almost certainly see him breaking out of prison and going after Bond & Swann.
Don't tempt me. I'd even shave and shower for that one.
Watch the film again and don't take things so literally. There's far more nuance to it, just engage your brain a bit.
I'll do my best to engage my brain a bit next time. Way to try and put someone down for having a different viewpoint than your own.
Maybe instead just redirect your brain and enjoy the nuances of the film????
:P
Just kidding not meaning as insult.
Agreed. It's a bit of a hamfisted greatest hits package with some 'psychedelic' thrown in. It's surreal but demands repeated viewings to confirm if something has been missed. I feel stupid almost because there has to be something more... It's entertaining though.
You could absolutely hate it, I don't have a problem with that, but at least think about the story in terms of the details and the direction rather than talking in absolutes. It's nowhere near as straightforward as ESB solely orchestrating the last three films. I'm saying this in a bid to help you reassess things. If you still hate it, you hate it, but I don't think you're quite getting the big picture, which is much more nuanced and satisfying.
It's not that I didn't enjoy Spectre. I place it in the middle of my Bond rankings and am planning on seeing it again. It's more that I left Spectre far more disappointed than I've been leaving a movie since I saw the last Indiana Jones. It just felt like a weak re-introduction to Spectre & Blofeld for me. To me it was sort of like they took some of the weaker aspects of Skyfall and then doubled down on them. I think it would've benefitted from a less is more approach - no Andrew Scott, no Seydoux - more Waltz and more Bellucci.
I did really like aspects of Spectre a lot though, the PTS was excellent, the actors did what they could with some the material they were given, the cinematography was brilliant, and aside from the car chase & London sequences I really enjoyed the action.
Wish thinking as a fan, there is nothing more, seen it twice and there is no more I am, afraid.
The villa for me is a good example of nuance in the film. The action sequences no not so much.
I liked that dual action is cut back and forth between Bond's battle and M's battle with C at the end. For me it added to the tension even if the scope and duration was less than one might expect.
That's what I mean. How can you accuse others of being dismissive when you loftily dismiss every negative comment about SP?
Couldn't you rebut his point without just saying to watch the film again. Do you know how much cinema tickets cost?
In fact over the years, i find this to of been the case with many films..........the only film not to of improved with a second viewing was QOS (no surprise there).
It's a forum with different opinions ...I loved it but I agree with many of the complaints. I'm not sure why the gripes don't impact my enjoyment more but oh well.
Y'all won't agree ...never will. What I find off putting are the insults of fans by fans that like or don't like.
We are all fans I assume.. we all want to enjoy the film and to see Bond continue to fight another fight.
I like the tension contained in the simple ending.
I will say that Bond's marksmanship has vastly improved since SF.
Ouch! That bad? I thought the typical Bond tropes were tastefully and reverently done by Mendes but not to be repeated in Bond 25 hopefully.
Fortunately the film then takes on it's own persona with the almost nightmarish and hallucinatory scenes in the Moroccan base and the ruins of the MI6 building.
I guess some see that as disjointed and messy and others see it as the best of both worlds and we're perfectly entitled to either opinion.
I don't dismiss negative comments I attempt to offer an alternative view, which may or may not shine some positive light on things. I'm suggesting watching it again with a different perspective. Sue me for wanting people to enjoy it and not wallow in negativity.