SPECTRE - Press reviews and personal reviews (BEWARE! Spoiler reviews allowed)

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  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    edited November 2015 Posts: 4,582
    Well, I told my SO that I would like to see SP again tonight, alone, at the late show. I was told, "You do NOT need to see it again. Gimme a break."

    I didn't know I was dating my mom.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    Posts: 4,116
    Enough of the anti-US xenophobia, let's give fuel for some anti-French xenophobia. Yeps, that's a 1 star review in one the major magazine.

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    (first French reviews - this summary also include some US ones)

    Une mauvaise critique?? Voila inexcusable!!!

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    what is your SO?- and why is she like your mom?- Oedipus is known syndrome even in the states I wonder? ;)
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    Posts: 4,582
    SaintMark wrote: »
    what is your SO?- and why is she like your mom?- Oedipus is known syndrome even in the states I wonder? ;)

    SO = significant other
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
    Posts: 4,012
    Sandy wrote: »
    I just spoke to my parents who went to see it on Thursday and got their opinion. They both loved it! My mother is the Bond-fan of the two and an original fan and the funny thing about what she had to say was that her favourite thing in the film was the reinvention of Ernst Stavro Blofeld! I'm still on the fence with the personal side of it althought I think it somehow worked but she really embraced the concept. I would never have guessed. Other highlights from them were the PTS and the helicopter stunt, the Rome car chase, and the entire Morocco segment. I'm really looking forward to what my grandfather has to say about it, this time he couldn't go see it with my mother because of mobility problems but he will be watching it when it comes to our small town theater in a couple of weeks. He's a true hard-core original Bond fan as well and refreshingly he embraces Bond without overanalysing it. I think he will have a blast with it!

    Youhave a nice family.

    Re-invention is the way to go, no point in doing the same old over and over. Spectre has brought us the best of both worlds imo.

    I do \:D/ and yes, reinvention is the way to go. I just read a couple of pages when the leaks started and the Oberhauser-ESB was one of the few things there and I hated it. They managed to make it work, I must admit. There was no sentimentality, they were not "brothers", ESB was annoyed that Bond had was yet again messing with his life. Smartly done!
    RC7 wrote: »
    Can anyone tell me what the countdown clock was for? The Nine Eyes system going active at 12AM? What would have happened if Q hadn't heroically initiated a shutdown? I have no idea (and neither does the script). Why was there no one else in the MI5 building on the eve of the launch of their new Global Surveillance program? What was C's motivation for all of this? Once the Spectre base had been destroyed was there any real threat remaining?

    The system would have gone online, which presumably would be a tricky thing to speedily reverse once six other nations have direct access. As for the building being populated, I don't really understand why it has to be? The whole thing is automated and can be accessed remotely, why would you need hundreds of staff to be waiting around for a computer system to start up?
    Q is pretty awsome in this film but aside from knocking out some goons in the final battle with a balloon he and M shouldn't be getting involved in the final action. It detracts from the fact that its a James Bond movie unless the filmmakers are planning Q and Moneypenny solo films like the Star Wars one-offs.

    I hear a lot of this 'it shouldn't happen in a Bond movie' talk, regard elements, characters, scenes, but no real reasoning behind why it shouldn't. The only answer always seems to be either because it's never happened before, or because it's not what usually happens. It doesn't detract one bit from it being a Bond movie. I'd argue that Whishaw and Fiennes are two of the most well realised supporting characters in the canon. Having them deal with the lesser threat of Denbigh, while Bond deals with the big bad was a unique take on the traditional finale.
    Other questions: What was the point of showing Madeleine her father's death scene? Why did Bond not want her to see it? Did Oberhauser think Bond had lied about his death? Bond should have been OK with Madeleine seeing it. It wouldn't break her. That whole scene made very little sense.

    I thought it was quite obvious that ESB wanted her to see her father take his own life. Would you really be fine watching your father commit suicide? I highly doubt it.
    More importantly, from a Bond series standpoint, why is there a need to include Silva in the Spectre master plot. Even if you didn't like Skyfall, you have to admit that Silva's central motive (revenge on the spymaster who had betrayed him) was a very compelling storyline. To suggest that it was all part of Oberhauser's revenge on Bond cheapens the movie. I dare anyone to rewatch Skyfall and say to themselves, "oh it makes so much more sense now". If Goldfinger has no ties to Spectre then there's no reason for Skyfall to have any such ties. I get that the producers want to keep cashing in on Skyfall so using Javier Bardem's picture in the opening credits and in Oberhauser's art class diorama in MI6's old building seems like a good idea but it only cheapens the overall product.

    I think people are putting too much weight on the levels of ESB exacting revenge on 007. Let's get one thing straight. SPECTRE doesn't exist solely to destroy Bond's life. SPECTRE as an organisation was presumably up and running long before Bond came on the scene and they have a multitude of interests, as evidenced by the Rome meeting. ESB says about Bond messing in his world, so he in turn destroys Bond's. Being the author of his pain isn't always literal, but he was the man at the centre of the organisation, he can take responsibility for any and all actions attributed to his agents. So with Silva we have an ex-agent who wants to kill 'M', this isn't authored by ESB, but presumably sanctioned by him. The fact Bond is on the mission could be pure happenstance. Once aware of this ESB throws his resources behind it. A lot of Silva's omnipotence suddenly makes much more sense when you consider ESB's reach. It's a decent bit of retcon. Remember, we're watching a Bond film, therefore everything we witness is directly related to him. SPECTRE is a culmination of years of ball ache for him. Meanwhile the organisation has been engaging in a plethora of unrelated nefarious acts that we don't even know about. The only one's we need to see are those concerning Bond, hence it having a more personal feel.

    Hear hear L-)
    royale65 wrote: »
    Sandy wrote: »
    royale65 wrote: »

    I was thinking about this last night. I couldn't sleep, and luckily I have the week of work, to let my mind peruse these things.

    Q takes the SPECTRE ring, and scans it into his laptop, and somehow his laptop is able to scan for DNA. I assume that Q has got some device that allows the DNA fragments to be converted via some sort of algorithm from the "real DNA" and into "digital DNA". A flimsy bit of pseudo science, I grant you, but there you go.

    That's the worst thing for me, that's what I was thinking of when I mentioned the science in my spoiler-free review. I'm a researcher and, without giving much away, I'm known for being able to analyse impossibly small amounts of DNA. The way they did it makes absolutely no sense. It would be so easy to solve had they asked someone in the area (I'm free if anyone's interested!). Nowadays you can sequence an entire genome with a portable machine you can carry in your pocket but what did they show? A scanner. And that's my biggest complaint with the film, by far. It's still a top notch entry in the series :-bd

    @Sandy for technical adviser on B25! It beggars belief, then, that they did not have Q fish the portable genome machine out his pocket to process the ring. Q is just neurotic enough, with a side of OCD, for people to buy that he would have the machine on him.

    It would have looked cooler, the machine I'm talking about won a Red Dot award or something like that, very stylish.
    Yesterday I watched a certain film (you can probably guess which one) for a fifth and sixth time. For a bit of variety I saw it at a cinema I've never visited before: the Showcase Cinema De Lux in Leicester. (As I was seeing The Primitives in concert in Leicester last night I decided to make a day of it.) As with three of my other viewings (at the Showcase CDL in Derby) I watched it in the X-Plus theatre which gives the largest screen size. It also boasts Dolby Atmos which is supposed to make the sound surround you more than ever. Personally I'd say it just makes things very, very LOUD! Especially Newman's re-heated SF action "music".
    I'm still seeing new things. For example, it wasn't until the fifth viewing that I noticed Michael G's blink and you'll miss it cameo. Of course, with each screening I'm picking up on more credulity-straining moments. The latest one (and somebody else may well have already mentioned this) is when Moneypenny is in her flat reading the old newspaper article about the death of Oberhauser and his father on her laptop. She highlights the article, hits "translate" and it changes from Swiss (or German?) into English. Well, given that it's a scanned page surely the computer wouldn't be able to do that. Wouldn't it see the whole page as a single picture? And it certainly wouldn't be able to change the actual text itself. Also it's unlikely that the article could translate from one language into another and still fit into exactly the same space. Maybe technology has moved on further than I knew. Still, plot holes and such aside I'm still absolutely loving SP to bits.

    First of all, Swiss is not a language. I only had time to read the headline before it was translated and it was in German. Yes, technology has moved far enough to translate a scanned document, in fact you don't even have to scan it. If you have an android device you can test this right now with the google photo translate, just point your phone at a text in another language and magically it will show up translated on your screen. You're welcome /:)
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    edited November 2015 Posts: 11,139
    Basic technology is passing people by and they don't even know it. Hilarious.
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    TripAces wrote: »
    SaintMark wrote: »
    what is your SO?- and why is she like your mom?- Oedipus is known syndrome even in the states I wonder? ;)

    SO = significant other

    Thanks, I was really puzzled about that one.

    Mine would say the same thing but add I'll buy you the bluray and you can watch as often as you want when I am not at home. ;)

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    Yesterday I watched a certain film (you can probably guess which one) for a fifth and sixth time. For a bit of variety I saw it at a cinema I've never visited before: the Showcase Cinema De Lux in Leicester. (As I was seeing The Primitives in concert in Leicester last night I decided to make a day of it.) As with three of my other viewings (at the Showcase CDL in Derby) I watched it in the X-Plus theatre which gives the largest screen size. It also boasts Dolby Atmos which is supposed to make the sound surround you more than ever. Personally I'd say it just makes things very, very LOUD! Especially Newman's re-heated SF action "music".
    I'm still seeing new things. For example, it wasn't until the fifth viewing that I noticed Michael G's blink and you'll miss it cameo. Of course, with each screening I'm picking up on more credulity-straining moments. The latest one (and somebody else may well have already mentioned this) is when Moneypenny is in her flat reading the old newspaper article about the death of Oberhauser and his father on her laptop. She highlights the article, hits "translate" and it changes from Swiss (or German?) into English. Well, given that it's a scanned page surely the computer wouldn't be able to do that. Wouldn't it see the whole page as a single picture? And it certainly wouldn't be able to change the actual text itself. Also it's unlikely that the article could translate from one language into another and still fit into exactly the same space. Maybe technology has moved on further than I knew. Still, plot holes and such aside I'm still absolutely loving SP to bits.

    Without giving too much information I work in translation technology and it is now possible to translate a scanned PDF, although I am not sure it is possible with machine translation (and that said translation would be flawless).
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,789
    Just got back from seeing it. Wow. I was truly blown away. THIS is the Bond film I've been waiting nearly two decades for! I'm sort of speechless...
    5/5 stars
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    edited November 2015 Posts: 4,116
    Seeing your tag kinda makes me think that Brosnan might have done pretty well in SP had it been made back when....

    ....and glad you liked @chrisisall
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,959
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Just got back from seeing it. Wow. I was truly blown away. THIS is the Bond film I've been waiting nearly two decades for! I'm sort of speechless...
    5/5 stars

    Now we needn't worry about agreeing or disagreeing on TND since we so heavily agree on this. ;)
  • The Spy Who Loved Me was the last Bond movie to succeed on the back of old formula to do something ridiculous, make it impeccably stylish, and never look back. Since then, success in Bond movies has been about finding the right balance between questioning the traditions of the franchise and embracing them. Some, like Quantum of Solace and Licence to Kill, have veered too close to abandoning Bond's roots. Others, like Tomorrow Never Dies and Octopussy, have skimped on the questioning and plowed ahead with the old goofiness. A select three, GoldenEye, Casino Royale, and Skyfall, have hit the perfect balance and cemented themselves as top-flight Bond movies.

    Spectre's chief accomplishment is presenting a new failure mode, in leaning too heavily both on the questions and on the past glories. After the triumphant celebration of the old ways of espionage in Skyfall, the filmmakers decide that the best course of action is to immediately retread that ground with Denbigh pushing for Nine Eyes and shutting down the 00 program. To make matters worse, this isn't just a flagrant retread of Skyfall, they're also ripping off Captain America: The Winter Soldier, which actually bothered to develop the evil plot, such that there's some sense of tension when it's about to succeed. As the fine reviewer at io9 put it, "...Spectre is much more of a mess, culminating in a final countdown where I honestly could not tell you what would happen if the countdown reaches zero."

    Second of all, they also decided to revisit the Blofeld and Spectre well, which, fine, it was in the title of the movie, everybody and their grandma saw the reveal coming, and they wouldn't be totally wrong if they thought QoS ruined the appeal of Quantum as a nebulous evil organization. I'm still not the biggest fan, but I can understand the rationale and look at the merits. But good heavens, the merits. The reveal means nothing in universe, and it's only for the benefit of the audience. And then, and then, and then, they decide on the single dumbest, laziest twist in Bond history. Blofeld is Bond's adopted brother (?!) who has been trying to get back at Bond for the last decade (?!?!) because his dad liked Bond more than him (?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!). So since Bond has been little more than a newly-minted, mostly unremarkable 00, Blofeld was manipulating things to bring him up and then break him down here. Good heavens, what a way to cheapen Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace, and for such a POS motivation.

    But that's not the worst of it, no, not by a long shot. They also felt the need to shoehorn in Silva's plot, whose entire appeal was that he was a lone wolf, an abandoned, embittered, evil version of Bond out for revenge against M. That was what gave Skyfall its emotional force, and I daresay not a single person in the theater worldwide was thinking, "Boy, you know what would be better? If Silva were in some vague, undefined way a puppet of another villain, who's mostly mad that his dad liked Bond more." The sheer stupidity of that choice is easily Spectre's dumbest moment.

    Now, having spent several paragraphs ranting about the problems that run Spectre into the ground, let's talk about the good parts. Mr. White's reappearance is excellently done, if brief, and I enjoyed the callback to Felix and Bond's dalliance with Lucia Sciarra, as well as the subversion of the sacrificial lamb trope. The car chase in Rome and the big setpiece in the Alps were loads of fun, even if Bond's sudden possession of a plane doesn't make much sense. The fight on the train was pure kinetic violence, if a little heavy handed in its mixture of Grant, Oddjob, and Jaws. Astute readers will note that all three scenes involve Dave Batista, who is a highlight of the movie. The little callback to Piz Gloria also set my heart aflutter.

    The jokiness didn't bother me so much. Some of them I could have stood to get rid of, but I'd have to rewatch to know just which ones (the couch didn't sit right with me right away, though). Bond leveling one ineffectual guard with a gut punch and telling the other to stay was a particularly good bit, as were his interactions with the other members of the MI6 crew, one of the few new spins that actually worked. Craig's performance is fine, not nearly as invested in the first three but also not nearly at Connery in YOLT-level disengagement, and he can do all that's asked of him well. The "examine Bond's psyche" bits feel a bit tacked on and they don't go as in depth as CR or even GE (see the first paragraph about half-assed retreads). The relationship with Madeline Swann was a mixed bag. As a standalone romance, it worked pretty well, but if the film expects us to buy her as a replacement to Vesper and a serious contender for the love of Bond's life, they're on something (which, given the Blofeld reveal, isn't a bad shout).

    Hopefully she doesn't turn up dead in Bond 25 at the hands of Blofeld...ah, who am I kidding? He'll probably be mad that his cat likes Bond better this time around.

    Spectre clocks in at 16/23, just below Thunderball and Quantum of Solace, and above Octopussy.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,789
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Just got back from seeing it. Wow. I was truly blown away. THIS is the Bond film I've been waiting nearly two decades for! I'm sort of speechless...
    5/5 stars

    Now we needn't worry about agreeing or disagreeing on TND since we so heavily agree on this. ;)
    Not ONLY is SP instantly my #4 Bond, it makes me appreciate a great deal more of SF NOW!!
  • Also, in the tradition of Americans liking the film way less than the Brits, here's a particularly devastating review from Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2015/11/03/review-spectre-is-the-worst-007-movie-in-30-years/
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    Posts: 4,116
    Also, in the tradition of Americans liking the film way less than the Brits, here's a particularly devastating review from Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2015/11/03/review-spectre-is-the-worst-007-movie-in-30-years/

    That one has already been moaned over. There is a second much better review that doesn't seem to be written only seeking attention.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,959
    Someone posted a little theory about Silva's escape in SF and how it now makes much more sense after seeing SP, and I'll admit (as hard as it is, ;) ) that it makes me appreciate SF a little bit more, as well. Itching to give it another re-watch (honestly the first time I've been interested in re-watching it since I first saw it) to see how the rest of it holds up and what may make more sense in its own way after viewing SP.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    edited November 2015 Posts: 17,789
    They also felt the need to shoehorn in Silva's plot, whose entire appeal was that he was a lone wolf, an abandoned, embittered, evil version of Bond out for revenge against M. That was what gave Skyfall its emotional force
    For ME it made sense of the how timing of Silva's escape worked & where he got the helicopter & men from. SPECTRE was backing Silva in his revenge plot. The emotional force is still there, only the story makes a bit more sense now IMO.
  • I don't ever recall such a disconnect between American and British reviewers on any other Bond film in the past. Unless my memory is just faulty?
  • The Spy Who Loved Me was the last Bond movie to succeed on the back of old formula to do something ridiculous, make it impeccably stylish, and never look back. Since then, success in Bond movies has been about finding the right balance between questioning the traditions of the franchise and embracing them. Some, like Quantum of Solace and Licence to Kill, have veered too close to abandoning Bond's roots. Others, like Tomorrow Never Dies and Octopussy, have skimped on the questioning and plowed ahead with the old goofiness. A select three, GoldenEye, Casino Royale, and Skyfall, have hit the perfect balance and cemented themselves as top-flight Bond movies.

    Spectre's chief accomplishment is presenting a new failure mode, in leaning too heavily both on the questions and on the past glories. After the triumphant celebration of the old ways of espionage in Skyfall, the filmmakers decide that the best course of action is to immediately retread that ground with Denbigh pushing for Nine Eyes and shutting down the 00 program. To make matters worse, this isn't just a flagrant retread of Skyfall, they're also ripping off Captain America: The Winter Soldier, which actually bothered to develop the evil plot, such that there's some sense of tension when it's about to succeed. As the fine reviewer at io9 put it, "...Spectre is much more of a mess, culminating in a final countdown where I honestly could not tell you what would happen if the countdown reaches zero."

    Second of all, they also decided to revisit the Blofeld and Spectre well, which, fine, it was in the title of the movie, everybody and their grandma saw the reveal coming, and they wouldn't be totally wrong if they thought QoS ruined the appeal of Quantum as a nebulous evil organization. I'm still not the biggest fan, but I can understand the rationale and look at the merits. But good heavens, the merits. The reveal means nothing in universe, and it's only for the benefit of the audience. And then, and then, and then, they decide on the single dumbest, laziest twist in Bond history. Blofeld is Bond's adopted brother (?!) who has been trying to get back at Bond for the last decade (?!?!) because his dad liked Bond more than him (?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!). So since Bond has been little more than a newly-minted, mostly unremarkable 00, Blofeld was manipulating things to bring him up and then break him down here. Good heavens, what a way to cheapen Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace, and for such a POS motivation.

    But that's not the worst of it, no, not by a long shot. They also felt the need to shoehorn in Silva's plot, whose entire appeal was that he was a lone wolf, an abandoned, embittered, evil version of Bond out for revenge against M. That was what gave Skyfall its emotional force, and I daresay not a single person in the theater worldwide was thinking, "Boy, you know what would be better? If Silva were in some vague, undefined way a puppet of another villain, who's mostly mad that his dad liked Bond more." The sheer stupidity of that choice is easily Spectre's dumbest moment.

    Now, having spent several paragraphs ranting about the problems that run Spectre into the ground, let's talk about the good parts. Mr. White's reappearance is excellently done, if brief, and I enjoyed the callback to Felix and Bond's dalliance with Lucia Sciarra, as well as the subversion of the sacrificial lamb trope. The car chase in Rome and the big setpiece in the Alps were loads of fun, even if Bond's sudden possession of a plane doesn't make much sense. The fight on the train was pure kinetic violence, if a little heavy handed in its mixture of Grant, Oddjob, and Jaws. Astute readers will note that all three scenes involve Dave Batista, who is a highlight of the movie. The little callback to Piz Gloria also set my heart aflutter.

    The jokiness didn't bother me so much. Some of them I could have stood to get rid of, but I'd have to rewatch to know just which ones (the couch didn't sit right with me right away, though). Bond leveling one ineffectual guard with a gut punch and telling the other to stay was a particularly good bit, as were his interactions with the other members of the MI6 crew, one of the few new spins that actually worked. Craig's performance is fine, not nearly as invested in the first three but also not nearly at Connery in YOLT-level disengagement, and he can do all that's asked of him well. The "examine Bond's psyche" bits feel a bit tacked on and they don't go as in depth as CR or even GE (see the first paragraph about half-assed retreads). The relationship with Madeline Swann was a mixed bag. As a standalone romance, it worked pretty well, but if the film expects us to buy her as a replacement to Vesper and a serious contender for the love of Bond's life, they're on something (which, given the Blofeld reveal, isn't a bad shout).

    Hopefully she doesn't turn up dead in Bond 25 at the hands of Blofeld...ah, who am I kidding? He'll probably be mad that his cat likes Bond better this time around.

    Spectre clocks in at 16/23, just below Thunderball and Quantum of Solace, and above Octopussy.

    Best review I've read. Well played.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited November 2015 Posts: 40,959
    I now try and look at it as this:

    - Bond starts to look into Greene's affairs and plot.
    - Bond stumbles upon many members of the organization in Bregenz.
    - In return, Fields and Mathis are killed.
    - Bond gets revenge by extracting information from Greene (which leads to his death) and finally catching Yusef and stopping him from manipulating any more women.
    - Cut to SF, where Bond is once again interfering in SPECTRE's affairs. As a result, Silva (with the assistance of SPECTRE) humiliates and kills M. This assistance is shown by the small army Silva manages to accumulate and it explains how he was able to escape and reach M so easily.
    - Now in SP, Bond only begins to interfere in their plans once again because, even though Dench's M is now deceased, she's still responsible for getting Bond back on SPECTRE's trail, and the rest of the movie unfolds as such.

    Typed that up pretty quick so I may have messed something up, but that's a snippet of the view I just came up with regarding SPECTRE's influence from QoS on. Helps me appreciate SF more, and I could use a lot more appreciation for that movie.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    Posts: 4,116
    I wanted to go again this weekend with my kids but they have friends over so no second viewing. Trying again during the week.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,959
    @Soundofthesinners, where is your Bondathon ranking at? Just from the snippet I saw in your review, I can tell that our lists more than likely differ in many, many ways, so I'm interested in seeing your ranking of the films.
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
    Posts: 4,012
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I now try and look at it as this:

    - Bond starts to look into Greene's affairs and plot.
    - Bond stumbles upon many members of the organization in Bregenz.
    - In return, Fields and Mathis are killed.
    - Bond gets revenge by extracting information from Greene (which leads to his death) and finally catching Yusef and stopping him from manipulating any more women.
    - Cut to SF, where Bond is once again interfering in SPECTRE's affairs. As a result, Silva (with the assistance of SPECTRE) humiliates and kills M. This assistance is shown by the small army Silva manages to accumulate and it explains how he was able to escape and reach M so easily.
    - Now in SP, Bond only begins to interfere in their plans once again because, even though Dench's M is now deceased, she's still responsible for getting Bond back on SPECTRE's trail, and the rest of the movie unfolds as such.

    Typed that up pretty quick so I may have messed something up, but that's a snippet of the view I just came up with regarding SPECTRE's influence from QoS on. Helps me appreciate SF more, and I could use a lot more appreciation for that movie.

    That makes a lot of sense @Creasy47!

    @chrisisall I had a feeling you'd like this one and I was right! >:D<
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,789
    Sandy wrote: »
    @chrisisall I had a feeling you'd like this one and I was right! >:D<

    I'm still floating from it! ^:)^
  • RC7RC7
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    Question: who else felt the adrenaline pumping when rescues Madeliene in MI6 and makes his escape? The Newman score (Detonation) had me fist pumping - as did the moment they exit the collapsing building in the boat. I live for these moments in Bond films.
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    I thought that was an action lowlight tbh. Too convenient to leave all those boats with petrol in them where anyone can get at them.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,959
    RC7 wrote: »
    Question: who else felt the adrenaline pumping when rescues Madeliene in MI6 and makes his escape? The Newman score (Detonation) had me fist pumping - as did the moment they exit the collapsing building in the boat. I live for these moments in Bond films.

    I most certainly did! Pretty sure I was breathing as minimally as possible during that train fight, too, from how intense it was. Watching Bond attempt to hold his own as Hinx threw him around like a ragdoll and destroyed the interior of the train was the exact type of fighting I missed in SF. Happy to see Mendes got it right this time around.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    Posts: 4,116
    RC7 wrote: »
    Question: who else felt the adrenaline pumping when rescues Madeliene in MI6 and makes his escape? The Newman score (Detonation) had me fist pumping - as did the moment they exit the collapsing building in the boat. I live for these moments in Bond films.

    Ditto here.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,789
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Watching Bond attempt to hold his own as Hinx threw him around like a ragdoll and destroyed the interior of the train was the exact type of fighting I missed in SF. Happy to see Mendes got it right this time around.
    Can I be the first to say that the Grant train fight has finally been equaled-?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,959
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Watching Bond attempt to hold his own as Hinx threw him around like a ragdoll and destroyed the interior of the train was the exact type of fighting I missed in SF. Happy to see Mendes got it right this time around.
    Can I be the first to say that the Grant train fight has finally been equaled-?

    I would completely agree, though my favorite has always been Bond fighting Slate in QoS...though that one may have been equaled for me, as well.
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