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I don't see much difference between an archbishop and a witch doctor, if any.
Very good.
Keep in mind though that it is something that is not only the fault of the religious, but also the atheists. Work by Daniel Kahneman & Amos Tversky in particular has conclusively proven how often the human mind deludes itself subconsciously and automatically in several situations based on conditioning and reflex.
Religion is just one of the more egregious, & perhaps most obvious, examples of this.
Another sad entry on the list of futile 'religious' murders this year - and we're only 14 days into 2016...
Yeah we get it you want to blow yourselves up for Allah. Now give it a rest.
In other predictable news the Church of England refuses to join the civilised world:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/12100648/Anglicans-step-back-from-brink-of-schism-over-homosexuality.html
Such as ?
I always heard these experiments were mainly conducted to prove the theories, not to find new theories, and that many were probably fraud. I'm curious what is the "great amount of useful knowledge" you refer to.
War has brought us a great amount of useful knowledge : young people in very good physical shape who could still live a bit with various body parts missing, including parts of the brain, did help a lot to understand the body, yes.
But my neurobiology teachers who factually stated that indeed war made neurobiology what it is today, also added that the Nazi experiments in the camps were basically worthless. Because, well, you might guess it, the subjects of the experiments were not in good shape to start with. So even in case there were some people there doing serious research - and we can doubt it, Mengele is not taken seriously by ayone it seems, for instance -, we would only know some things about the body of starving humans having lost their family and knowing they would die there. I don't think you'll be ever in this state of body and mind and benefit from this any day.
Von Braun sent the USA to the moon, but Mengele is nowhere in your dispensary.
I have, however, spoken with several academic researchers who independently told me about the Nazis proving a cause-and-effect relationship between smoking and lung cancer long before the rest of the world jumped on that wagon (of course it helped that Hitler himself disliked the habit of smoking). They also told me about the Nazis conducting cruel experiments - often for cruelty's sake - whilst at the same time monitoring things like heart rate, muscle reflexes, ... Those data, apparently, were used by medical researchers after the war to make rapid progress in certain departments. Of course no-one publicly celebrated the Nazis numerical legacy. In fact, because of the unethical methods applied by the Nazis, debates still rage as to whether or not those data should be used in the first place. But, again, it would seem that amidst all the horrendous experimentation, completely devoid of any scientific basis, some pretty useful knowledge was obtained. I'm not involved in medical research myself, but I'm inclined to believe what experts in the field have told me.
Lest I be mistaken for a Nazi sympathiser - which I am NOT - I wish to point out that none of the suffering was worth it!
Quite.
Mengle's 'research' had very little scientific validity due to its haphazard nature and lack of basic scientific rigour.
And to the best of my knowledge most, if not all, of Mengle's research was destroyed after the war. I think you'd be hard pressed to cite any example of where the experimentation on humans in the camps directly benefitted medical science.
The C of E and indeed any Christian Church can boast about Christianity's acceptance, love and understanding, but they can hardly give lessons to Islam. They do not have a violent faction like Islam anymore, but intrinsically they are nearly as backward. Frankly, I wonder why gays would want to be part of any religion. Even if they do believe in God. What was the last faith that were truly accepting of homosexuals?
When fundamentalists have nothing more to say. ;-)
Religion is a menace to the thoughtless masses unable to think for themselves.
(sorry. kneejerk there) :-O
I think we should be more like Bill.
Bill is smart.
Not quite sure who you're aiming this at Draggers. In my experience it's certainly not the atheists who tend to take offence on this subject.
Indeed.
This terrifies me more than ISIS. This woman almost came within a heart attack of having her finger on the button and somehow she is still given a forum to spout her insane drivel.
'How 'bout the rest of us? Right wingin', bitter clingin', proud clingers of our guns, our god, and our religions, our Constitution.'
Love how the two most important things in the eyes of redneck imbeciles like this are guns and God - in that order.
No, I was merely referring to myself and my approach to this and similar threads in the future. I come here primarily for discussion about James Bond, not stuff like this. That's all there is to this simple cartoon that has taken the internet by storm. :)
Imbeciles is about right. Don't these fools get it? So much blind patriotism, 'our warriors' guided by God. As bad as that which they oppose, just living in nicer houses. To paraphrase Stewart Lee, the whole lot of them are like 'rats fighting in a ditch, over some piss.'
@RC7 you cheeky little scallywag!
I sincerely hope you haven't offended someone religious by describing everything they believe in and hold dear as a ditch full of piss.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/21/chess-forbidden-in-islam-rules-saudi-arabia-grand-mufti