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The humor mean to be funny are not funny like in my opnion to much Die Another Day humor with the watch. Example of rushed humor, simalar to the rush with at gunbarrelatr the start again. Contuned of Skyfall that rushed to bring Bond elements back. Whyle also bit DAD joke with the garbage guy/parashute was good and Daniel Craig Casino Royale sarcarsm in litle car joke helps the scene. Whye QOS stil be winner with toilet scene at Tosca.
Which garbage guy/parachute scene? Do you mean the CGI Brosnan surf? Then I'm afraid I disagree. It was a disgrace and unintentionally funny (in the sense that we are laughing at the protagonist). Also, which sarcasm in little car joke in CR are you referring to? He had the Aston.
This hurts, I wish people would not be so suspicious of everything.
But when you are that way other might think similarly, so i better stop, not want Jase to be hurt by such thing when he comes back.
How is this on Barbara? This is seriously laughable now. It was Dan's injury and he dealt with it. The kind of collaborator he is, he wouldn't complain, and suck it up to do his job. Like Bond, really.
You are delusional, but around these parts you are in good company on that front. It's fitting that your username references a criminal organization, as you are quite the conspiratorial sort.
Exactly, @Murdock. It is nice to see good sense here. Dan has talked about the injury many times, I don't really know what people expect. And if it weren't for him being so strong and stubborn, the filming may've been postponed and we wouldn't have gotten SP when we did. It happened, he got his knee reset and went right back to filming the train fight, as if nothing happened. That's called professionalism.
EON aren't hiding anything from you, and they aren't the filmmaking version of the all-seeing eye on top of the pyramid. Some people really have overactive imaginations.
Delusional? You call me delusional yet you think SPECTRE was a well written film?
The only faultless script in my mind if FRWL, with OHMSS being told as a Greek myth with Bond, with some illogical moments, but a strong enough story to distract from them; those two are king, script-wise. DN and TB are also classic scripts, the former only let down by the radiation bath scene.
After those, everything else falls in line. CR is probably the strongest outside of the 60s for me, for how it builds up the new take on Bond and grows his character in his first Fleming adventure, and despite what others think, I believe QoS is also deftly scripted with one of the most intriguing and grounded Bond scripts we've had. All the character moments for Bond and the cast in it are immaculate, and the themes of grieving, forgiveness, corruption and duty in it are well realized on screen.
The Craig films haven't been perfect, but for their flaws (which I count as low in number), I cherish them as far and away the best since Connery's because they strive to do something new with Bond and give him layers that've largely been unseen outside of the original era.
SP represents this to me. It's not perfect and I'd probably change more in it than any other Craig film if I had writing duties, but I have to give it credit for continuing to develop this fascinating arc of Bond's character from a reckless rookie to seasoned agent, with some truly artful themes and motifs on display to give it added meaning and purpose, which most Bond scripts don't even bother with. We're seeing Bond grow and grow in every film, and Dan as an actor in his performance of the character. I know the continuity of these films aren't everyone's cup of tea, but for me it's been an engrossing and largely successful experiment.
I was talking about the parachute scene (landing next to a garbage guy) in Spectre as remember of Die Another Day parachute scene with Graves. Daniel Craig his Bond behaviour from Cr (he don 't care ) helps the old guy scene in car chase in Spectre. Whyle i must say i also think it don't fit on some way because of that same behaviour. His Bond is by times shelfish and then rushing Bond elements in to it not always work. There are worse examples.
Thank you! It's been months since I have posted here, but I do read the forums from time to time. And I have been aghast as to how many people have hijacked just about every thread that talks about this film to the point where all the posts degenerate into SPECTRE bashing! Okay! I get it. A lot of people don't like this movie, and that is their prerogative. But there were a lot of people who did like this film, and I like you LordBrett feel that this was one of the most fun and enjoyable Bond movies in a long time. And by that I mean one that has the classic feel and humor of the best of the early Bonds, without going over the line like some of the Roger Moore and especially Pierce Brosnan movies did. And also to clarify, I'm not saying I disliked the other three Craig movies. On the contrary, two of those three are better than SPECTRE, but those were enjoyable on a different level based on the much darker tone those movies set. But SPECTRE was fine on it's own level, especially in it's ability to tap into the classic feel of the Bond series with a wonderful modern classic take on Bond and his biggest nemesis.
The other thing that bugs me is that these same people who insist on shouting down others who like this movie love to try to revise history by saying this, and QOS for that matter were total flops critically and at the box office. Nothing could be further from the truth as both movies averaged in the high 60% approval rating on most online movie review sites. Now is that a great score? Certainly not, but that's also far from a universally loathed film as a lot of people are making this and QOS out to be. And yeah, I get that a lot of people did not like the "baby daddy" angle of the Blofeld origin story, but that didn't destroy my liking for this film either. It had the humor without diving into horrible puns and one liners, or relying on horrifically bad CGI effects. The cinematography was great, and despite what others say, the musical score of this movie was fantastic! Yes, Newman plagiarizes a lot of his SKYFALL soundtrack work, but those moments don't detract from the movie, and the original tracks he provides for SPECTRE are terrific. Some of the most memorable music I have heard in quite a while from a Bond movie.
In short, yes SPECTRE is in some regards flawed compared to the earlier Craig films, but it is still the most fun Craig movie to watch, and still of very high standard. Craig is allowed to relax and loosen up in this movie, while still retaining a lot of the intensity that has made him one of the best Bond actors of all time. And if SPECTRE turns out to be his "Swan" song, what a way to go out! If not, I think there will be at least one more high octane film left for him that may turn him back towards the tragic hero that a lot of people probably wanted to see in SPECTRE. I for one though did not mind the more traditional and less dark tone he decided to go with in this film, and I think people will only appreciate his performance in this film more in time. SPECTRE is another great film that will only add to Craig's Bond legacy that people will enjoy for many years to come!
Okay, Birdleson, you are the example of the type of person I was talking about in my previous post. You go out of your way every time someone makes a positive comment about this movie to counter with how awful you feel this movie was. And I get it. I totally respect your opinion in regards to you not liking this film. But I don't think you need to force feed that point across every time someone praises the film. Because whether you like it or not, there are a lot of people who like this film. It has its fan base just as the worst films in the Bond series do. And that's why I find it disingenuous when people claim they speak for everyone when reviewing a film.
Polish the sloppy dialogue on the Thames
Add other cars and jeopardy to the car chase
Have bond ski after Madeleine
Lose the one line about being brothers
Have bond and blofeld fight stop Big Ben after the helicopter chase
And you have a much better movie
Oh no it isn't
But @Murdock, you also aren't one of the people @A_Kristatos is talking about. I completely tolerate people's opposite opinions, but the hijacking described has been beyond infantile for a long, long time. When this happens, people who don't like SP won't even bother to actually comment substantially on why it's not good to them beyond saying, "It sucked," or "worse Bond film ever." On a discussion forum, one line derisions like the above only serve the pride of the poster unleashing them, as they contain no substance or value for anyone else to work off of.
In writing analysis you make a point and then support it with backed up evidence. When you only do the former, I advise saving your breath, as nobody really cares what you have to say afterward. I used to be far more polite on these issues, but as someone who backs up everything he says, as a true writer should, and who has also tired of random negativity that has no merit, my stores of patience have run thin.
Ha! I've always thought that. My favourite Brozza movie (TND) has a flat ending. I hate those 'kill the baddie at the end with a pithy quip' endings. Kudos to the Craig era that it happened only once (SF).
Probably true of most action films.
@Matt007 I like SP, but if it had included the things you listed, it would have been much better. It would likely have been the best Bond film in a very long time.
However, I do feel that most of us actually back up our feelings and comments substantially. Hell, I posted a massive list of everything I did or didn't like about the movie as I watched it one time. It's a pretty brutal, yet fair, read. It really doesn't get more in-depth than that for me.
I liked the title song! Hell, I can't stand the movie, but I think I'm in a very tiny minority of people that did enjoy the song, and it probably helps that I waited to see the movie to hear the song for the first time.
I liked and like the song too!