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Pierce and Daniel much more similar than we thought
With the therad of chossing the most representative film of each Bond actor I realized how similar were the tenures of Pierce and Criag
Well how similar have been so far since there is chance for Craig to do more but here we go
First Casino Royale and Goldeneye both having a great debut which made people love them as Bond with a film which looks very Bondian but still makes Bond more human and well non of those films were written for them since the beggining.
Goldeneye was adapted for Pierce after Dalton steped down and the film was originally written for Dalton.
Casino Royale was the first novel writen by Fleming so its a film that could have used Pierce, Connery or Dalton in their respective debuts and it would have worked equally good.
So both succed perfectly good in a film which story wasn't made just for them.
Quantum of Solace and Tomorrow never dies both very fun action flicks which were critizced for being an action hollywood film with Bond in it than a proper Bond film.
My defense on both, they do have their very Bondian Moments
Tomorrow never dies: Bond getting his gadgets from Q, the party scene and the hotel scene with Paris.
Quantum: The opera scene, Bond At the hotel with Agent Fields and Agent fileds being killed just like Gill in Goldfinger.
The World is not enough and Skyfall
This time both had a very good and proper Bond film with the right Bond elements in it and a great story which M was more involed than in any other Ocassion.
So its in their third film where Craig and Piecre had their Bond Movie made for them and i loved both films.
Spectre and Die another day their most over the top Bond adventure which did feel very Bondian but more than making it one more film for each actor its an Homage movie to the franchise which sacrifized a script for great style, fun and homages and nods everywhere to the past films.
Well how similar have been so far since there is chance for Craig to do more but here we go
First Casino Royale and Goldeneye both having a great debut which made people love them as Bond with a film which looks very Bondian but still makes Bond more human and well non of those films were written for them since the beggining.
Goldeneye was adapted for Pierce after Dalton steped down and the film was originally written for Dalton.
Casino Royale was the first novel writen by Fleming so its a film that could have used Pierce, Connery or Dalton in their respective debuts and it would have worked equally good.
So both succed perfectly good in a film which story wasn't made just for them.
Quantum of Solace and Tomorrow never dies both very fun action flicks which were critizced for being an action hollywood film with Bond in it than a proper Bond film.
My defense on both, they do have their very Bondian Moments
Tomorrow never dies: Bond getting his gadgets from Q, the party scene and the hotel scene with Paris.
Quantum: The opera scene, Bond At the hotel with Agent Fields and Agent fileds being killed just like Gill in Goldfinger.
The World is not enough and Skyfall
This time both had a very good and proper Bond film with the right Bond elements in it and a great story which M was more involed than in any other Ocassion.
So its in their third film where Craig and Piecre had their Bond Movie made for them and i loved both films.
Spectre and Die another day their most over the top Bond adventure which did feel very Bondian but more than making it one more film for each actor its an Homage movie to the franchise which sacrifized a script for great style, fun and homages and nods everywhere to the past films.
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The world is not enough is one of my huge favorites. Im always undecided between The World is not enough and Goldeneye.
And like you said it all bond movies have their silly moments.
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I agree with you that DAD was his best performance. Maybe because he was half checked out and wasn't trying too hard (as he is in GE and TWINE).
I don't think he was trying too hard in any of those he just gained confidence as the films went by and got to his best in DAD, maybe its because im baissed but i think he was great in his 4 films.
Another interesting simillarity between Skyfall and TWINE are the locations, both movies have a lot of locations shots in London and Istanbul, and also some Scottish locations (Funeral and MI6 briefing in TWINE, and the whole 3rd act in Skyfall)
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I can see the similarities in the other three, including between SP & DAD, but quite frankly, cannot see it between TND & QoS.
QoS for me is a quirky, unpredictable revenge flick with a personal angle. In that respect, it's similar to the sophomore efforts from Connery (postcard from Russia to lure him in), Moore (bullet to lure him in), & Dalton (revenge flick after friend's wife is killed). It's smaller in scale like those other films, and less gadget-laden.
TND is more of an all out full scale assault on the senses. A larger than life Bond, similar to TSWLM (including GPS tracking, Bond-equal from another country Bond girl, potential superpower warfare etc. etc.). In fact, I think TND would have been better left for Brosnan's last effort, as it may have been a far more appropriate sendoff to his run than DAD imho. I also see similarities to SP.
I agree with others who say performance-wise he was best in DAD, although I personally prefer him in GE just because the film is such a blast and less of his personal acting tics are present in this film.
Well the films themselves are not similar(Tomorrow never dies and Quantum)
The similarity in these movies its just how they are seen : more action films with Bond in it than a proper Bond film but like you said the films are very different though they also share a woman Bond slept with being killed.
As for Pierce's performance as his best im very indecisive between the last two, im indecisive with his whole tenure but the ones which give me the most trouble are the world is not enough and Die another day.
He came to his most confident by DAD but the world is not enough is a great performance in a great Bond adventure.
I loved die another day but i just isaid so in my OP
This more like an Homage movie to the franchise than a proper Bond adventure though it didn't have the best script i don't mind an actor saying goodbye to the franchise with a Tribute to the fanchise movie.
Craig might continue but could say goodbye the same way as Pierce which is not a bad send off.
Yes, I agree here too. That is the primary similarity in my view between SP & DAD. They are both 'homage' films of a sort with throwback elements to the past. Both are perhaps reasonable sendoff films for the respective actor as well, given that aspect.
I realize many say SF is the homage film, but I personally see SP as being more obvious in that respect, perhaps unintentionally.
However, I can't help to think that Craig still is a better actor than Brosnan. But hey, who am I? A-hole Gustav :-D!
Hmm...I don't think I'd call TWINE particularly subtle in any way.
IMO Brosnan's best Bond performance is in "TWINE". And it showed us what to expect 7 years later, on a much larger scale.
And then there's Sophie Marceau. The best Bond girl from the Brosnan-era. Without a doubt.
No need for me to say it, then. Thanks.
Both.
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I think it was intentional.
In skyfall he made a few nods to the past for the 50th Anniversary but he didnt want to make it that obvious because he had something very specific in mind and with Spectre. I cluld see him thinking this might be Craig's last film and he proved his worth as Bond now its time yo have fun and do a big celebration to the franchise.
50th anniversary part 2
Well or it could be a restart for Craig.
In his first Quadriology he was becoming Bond and his next films could as him finally being JAMES BOND
I agree both critically and personally.
Views change. And I doubt sometime later Craig's films will be seen with supreme delight as they are now. Remember, back in the day people loved You Only Live Twice, but now it's not a favourite among the Bond fans, and overall combining fan opinions (both the appraisals and negativism), it's an average Bond film.
Now... In my personal opinion, I do like Daniel Craig's films and I do enjoy them heartily. But, there is no chance that his films, in my opinion, are more entertaining than Brosnan's era. Call me a lunatic, insane or even an idiot if you like, but personally, Brosnan's films and the plots were good enough for me to enjoy Bond for what he has been in the cinematic universe. Over-the-top at times, extremely escapist but not ridiculous (mostly). That's me, however, speaking for myself. And not for the others.
This is evry true. At the time Brosnan was hailed by many as the best Bond since Connery, and taking the best of both Connery and Moore. For me Brosnan did one good Bond (GE), two quite average but still enjoyable Bonds (TND & TWINE) and the worst Bond of them all (DAD). For me Craig has the best Bond of all (CR), an average Bond (QoS) and then two good Bonds in Skyfall and Spectre.