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2 years from now is April 2026, Mendes is right again. B-)
I think november 2025 is the perfect time to release Bond 26 with an announcement as to who will be Bond on james bond day this October… heck if the conspiracy theories are true Babs already has her man and its just about story tone and direction
I would love this :D but we'd have to have a director and writer announcements in the next couple months for this to happen IMO.
He referred to it as a 'conspiracy theory'; if there had been an announcement it would be fact.
Again?
When has Mendes been right before?
Well, assuming they intend to hire Villeneuve, the direction they're aiming for in terms of style and tone should already be pretty clear.
The only question that remains in that case is how they don't make it look too much like a Craig 2.0 movie.
Craig made five films, and I think CR has a different look and feel to QOS, and QOS is different in look and feel to SF, and SP, made by the same crew as SF, took on a very different feel than SF, and NTTD had its own look and feel.
The only similarities these films had was the same actor and his arc...
I'm sure with a new actor in place, Villeneuve, or any director, is not taking on a job to repeat what came before...
But I am curious, what is a Craig 2.0 film?
Edit: @Benny , Mendes is The Master in some alternate universe... A universe I'd be frightened to step into...
Well roughly summarized a mostly dark, gritty and emotional movie with a plot that becomes very personal for Bond or someone very close to him.
Interesting... I definitely find his films, generally, more "grounded" with a little hard-nosed grit, but, the personal angle doesn't just seem to be a Craig trope, right? LTK, avenging Felix and the murder of Felix's wife, GE is Bond vs his old friend, TND has the murder of 007's loved one, TWINE he's betrayed by someone he's falling in love with (plus M's personal background with these characters and her ultimate kidnapping), DAD he's betrayed and set up... So the emotional/personal seems to have been with us over three actors tenures...
As far as "dark" in the Craig Era? I mean SEVEN is dark. Sicario is dark. The Machinist is dark. Zodiac is dark... I just don't find the Craig films dark in that way at all. More grounded (generally)and gritty, but not dark, IMO...
Craig's movies have their formula. I mean, they killed the Bond girl, M and Bond!
Dude!!! You're so on the ball!! But...
No one was talking about that @DEKE_RIVERS ... I was asking kojak what constitutes a Craig 2.0 film, especially as it pertains to a new director coming in.
And as far as formula goes, Deke, killing characters in an action thriller, is kinda an ingredient of the genre... Not exactly a "formula"...
And, @DEKE_RIVERS in three out of the five films before Craig, we had Della's rape and murder, Paris Carver's murder, and Bond assassinating Elektra...
They are not some random characters. They are the Bond girl, M, and Bond. They are "sad Bond movies" and that is a formula. Casino Royale became "the new Goldfinger".
Dude!! You’re a genius!!! But I gotta push back:
Della
Paris Carver
Elektra
Are NOT random characters. Sorry.
“Sad Bond films”? I’ve never seen one of those.
CR became “the new Goldfinger”???
Listen, @DEKE_RIVERS , your genius is one of a kind, and so elevated, so on another level, that it makes zero sense to a simpleton such as me…
@DEKE_RIVERS Exactly but goldfinger is a template you can redo and alter slightly, and get a lot of mileage from, whereas casino royale is more of "one and done" type story. Seeing them contrive ways to keep putting bond back in the shadows so he can find his feet again has gotten beyond repetitive, and also everytime M does his "we used to look the enemy in the eye, now they're in the ether" speech.
@DEKE_RIVERS , in all honesty, I don’t see “sad Bond” as a formula, and I’ve never seen a “sad Bond” film. So all joking aside, no, I don’t see the formula that you’re talking about.
As far as deaths, including Bond’s, for the most part they work to move the story , and Bond, forward. The only two that I have a problem with are Mathis and Felix. I think the death of Mathis was handled poorly and could have been written better.
With some of the heaviness in NTTD, the ultimate being the death of Bond, I would have given Bond a triumphant moment of saving Felix when all seems lost.
@talos7 , I’m wondering: have you watched the Craig Era “back to back”? I often hear some people talk about the wanderings of this era, sometimes looking for a direction.
I have twice now, watched one Craig film every night, from CR through to NTTD (I first did it with one daughter, then a few months later with my other daughter (and will do so one more time when my son comes home for summer).
Both times, thus far, I was amazed how each film actually fit beautifully as a narrative and as an arc to this Bond. There doesn’t appear to be an aimless wandering. It solidified and elevated my admiration for this era moreso after doing this little experiment…
Have you had an opportunity to watch one after the other in close proximity? If not, I’d love to hear your experience after watching each “chapter” (as close to back to back as you can).
The fact that no character survives from Casino Royale to the end of B25 tells you something.
What does it tell you, @Mendes4Lyfe ?
EDIT: that’s what I thought, 😂 😉
Wait the dealer at Casino royale lived nicely after bond gave him a 500,000 chip he quit his job married the woman of his dreams and last i heard had a sheep farm in some town in Scotland… so there ha at least one person survived
First Vesper ... then Mathis .... M .... Felix. It's why the conclusion of NTTD makes thematic sense.
They most certainly deal with dark themes, but the films aren't dark unto themselves. I think the era has done well with exploring death, but also resurrection, with the ultimate resurrection becoming the timeless re-living of "a man named Bond, James Bond."
So even in death, Bond would still live on via the stories Madeleine will tell her daughter (a beautiful ending that wasn't dark, nor sad)...
https://www.eastwestbank.com/ReachFurther/en/News/Article/Dominic-Ng-Speaks-with-Producer-Barbara-Broccoli
Ah, the high note ending, like Casino Royale.
They learnt a lot since OHMSS.
CR ended with Bond triumphantly standing over Mr White, @DEKE_RIVERS , after uttering his iconic line… compare that to say, the end of Seven? A Clockwork Orange? Godfathers I & II…. I mean, those are dark endings, with not a bit of light streaming through.
But, yah, Deke, go on, keep it coming… 🙄