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The Next American President Thread (2016)

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  • Seven_Point_Six_FiveSeven_Point_Six_Five Southern California
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    In other news, it appears marijuana will now be legal for recreational use in California. That's a step towards freedom, as far as I am concerned.

    Though yet another gun control measure will seemingly pass and as a recreational shooter, this will be another big hurdle for one of my favorite hobbies.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Well he is out for himself far more than anything else, yes. And I guess the anti-Semitism, anti-nameyourethnicgroup will be quietly continued yet swept under the rug of "change is good." He definitely is out for himself and the rich, yes.
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    Well, sorry women and minorities, your rights will be taken away. He doesn't like that you ever had them in the first place.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Indeed, @Agent007391. And for so many others, too ...

    My friends are now asking me what it means to be an American? They are sad and confused. I am honest with them. But this is not a day to celebrate, if Trump wins, and it looks likely.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Ensuring that the Economy starts working for more folks throughout the income scale and that there is more job security.
    Good luck with THAT fantasy.
    Don't be so cynical. They've run the economy for 8 years with money printing, bank bailouts and letting the $ depreciate for much of it. That's not a recipe for sustainable growth. It has only created global imbalances, income disparities and massive asset bubbles (particularly in housing). Fiscal measures are required, and I've always believed that only a Republican president could cajole Congress to get that through (the Congress would block any Democrat spending measure).

    When they analyze the results I believe that they will see that the margins with African Americans and Latinos for Trump will be much closer than they were forecasting.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited November 2016 Posts: 12,480
    Oh and NASDAQ and S&P 500 have halted futures trading for the time being. Because they are tanking. Dow futures had fallen more than 800 points.
    Stocks in Japan have also plunged. Temporary shock we hope, of course.

    We shall overcome if Trump wins. Because we have to.

  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Let's hope Impeachment proceedings begin immediately.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Well we can rest assured the Democrats will do all they can to counter Trump's worst tendencies. That is all we can hope at this moment. But they, and all people who voted for Clinton (or other than Trump) will try our best. We will need to work together, just stay strong. It is still our country, after all.

    Clinton is projected to win the popular vote overall, but that does not win elections.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Murdock wrote: »
    Let's hope Impeachment proceedings begin immediately.

    He doesn't even WANT the job.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    I know; it's funny. He never ever truly wanted the job, @chrisisall. Funny in the most black humor backfired against our country and moral fiber that is.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    It's all down to the Electoral college now.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    1. ACA is repealed. Millions will be suddenly left without health insurance or will have to pay out of pocket without gov't subsidies.
    2. The Iran deal will be repealed. Hostilities between Iran and Israel will increase.
    3. The new SCOTUS judge will be put in place. Roe v Wade will be challenged and overturned. Abortion will be illegal in the U.S.
    4. Marriage will be legally defined as being between a man and woman.
    5. Dodd-Frank will be repealed.
    6. Taxes will be slashed even further on the wealthiest 10%. The military budget will increase dramatically. The federal deficit will skyrocket.

  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    And these are just the small things that'll happen.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    And a new civil war will be brewing quite fast. The American dream.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited November 2016 Posts: 12,480
    If the Democrats cannot stop Trump, and no Republicans with a conscious or morals do not stop him, he may have that kind of series of effects, yes, @TripAces.

    I just read this:
    Danger of tonight is not just legitimizing Trump's norm violations but reorienting US party system toward this racialized axis of conflict

    It is not okay. We need to keep speaking up.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    @Murdock, he's won the electoral college. They are just dragging it out.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    And this:
    And Trump is not the worst of what's to come. It's what he ratifies with victory. Open racism, sexism, violence, intimidation, terror.

    So it is up to us, as a country, to make sure he does not get his way with many things. We have to try our best.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    @bondjames, Don't tread on me.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    bondjames wrote: »
    he's won the electoral college. They are just dragging it out.
    They don't HAVE to vote for him. Just sayin'.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    What does that mean @Murdock?

    He's won the electoral college. They've just not announced it yet because they don't have the necessary statistical certainty. It's probably Michigan and possibly Pennsylvania too.
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    They can't announce what isn’t yet confirmed fact.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Fair enough. They've been burned before on the early calls. This one appears to be going in one direction though in the rust belt.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    I blame the DNC.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Oh it seems Trump will win. It is just up to our country to do something about that. I mean that in the most constructive, democratic ways.

    People voted for a change. Period. Damn the morals and consequences.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    No, it is more than the DNC, @chrisisall.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited November 2016 Posts: 23,883
    chrisisall wrote: »
    I blame the DNC.
    They probably backed the wrong candidate. That was clear to many of us at the start. They missed the mood of the country.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    I blame the DNC.

    I blame Comey and the FBI. All was going fine until eleven days ago. While polling was off a bit, HRC had a commanding double-digit lead that suddenly shrunk to nothing after that letter.
    bondjames wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »
    I blame the DNC.
    They probably backed the wrong candidate. That was clear to many of us at the start. They missed the mood of the country.

    Sanders wouldn't have defeated Trump.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited November 2016 Posts: 12,480
    Sanders would have lost. The tidal wave for Trump has other things at its core.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    4EverBonded wrote: »
    No, it is more than the DNC, @chrisisall.
    They f***ed Bernie over with the help of corporate news. Then in their arrogance they thought they could do good damage control.
    Like most who hold degrees in this or that but do not understand real world workings they are being surprised.
    And we foot the bill.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    It is definitely more than that, a lot of underlying and often ugly reasons.
    And if Bernie were the candidate, I would have gladly voted for him.
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