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They are both pretty good imo.
Title track: AVTAK
Titles: AVTAK
Main villain: AVTAK
Main Bond Girl: AVTAK
Henchman: SP
Plot: AVTAK
Dialogue: AVTAK
Score: AVTAK
Settings: SP
Action: SP
Humour: AVTAK
Cinematography: SP
Benign Bizarre: AVTAK
Suspense: AVTAK
Minor Characters: AVTAK
Glamour: SP
Bond performance: SP
SP 7
AVTAK 11
I could have sworn that honour would go to me!
I'm shattered. I will try harder.
Title track:
A
View
To
A
Kill
Titles: AVTAK
Main villain: AVTAK
Main Bond Girl: AVTAK
Henchwoman: AVTAK MayDay
Plot: AVTAK
Dialogue: AVTAK
Score: A View Fu@@ing A Kidding?
Settings: SP
Action: SP
Humour: AVTAK
Cinematography: SP
Benign Bizarre: SP
Suspense: SP
Minor Characters: AVTAK
Glamour: SP
Bond performance: SP
SP 8
AVTAK 10
Terribly sorry but even your good self, Mendes and Balje combined have never come up with anything so ludicrous.
That gives me a tumor. :O
Title track: AVTAK
Titles: SP
Main villain: AVTAK
Main Bond Girl: SP
Henchman: SP
Plot: SP
Dialogue: SP
Score: AVTAK
Settings: SP
Action: SP
Humour: SP
Cinematography: SP
Benign Bizarre: SP
Suspense: AVTAK
Minor Characters: SP
Glamour: SP
Bond performance: SP
SP 13
AVTAK 5
I also think the SP score is underrated, actually. And @Thunderfinger never said he disliked the score for AVTAK.
Title Track: A View to a Kill - Duran Duran's track is pretty catchy and fits the era just right. I think what I appreciate most about it is how it isn't afraid to venture into an original in the way that Writing's on the Wall is.
Title Credits: Spectre - A View to a Kill has one of the worst title sequences, while Spectre's is a middle to upper echelon title sequence.
Main Villain: Spectre - Zorin suffers from the same lack of things to do as Blofeld. I genuinely prefer Waltz's deep psychological attacks, whereas Walken just acts like a general sociopath.
Main Bond Girl: Spectre - Stacy is one of the weakest Bond girls in the franchise's history. Madeleine on the other hand is well developed at heart at least, though not totally on the screen.
Henchman: Spectre - May Day is a good henchman, probably top 10, but Hinx is top 5 at a minimum.
Plot: Spectre - I can't unsee Roger Ebert's exposure of Zorin's fundamental misunderstanding of his market.
Dialogue: A View to a Kill - I don't really think both were stellar, but at least it didn't have, "A license to kill is also a license not to kill."
Score: A View to a Kill - Top work by Barry (though not #1).
Settings: Spectre - One of the few contests Spectre will take here. A View to a Kill is pretty light in terms of destinations.
Action: Spectre - While it may not win in terms of pacing, the stunts match the qualities of their Bond better.
Humor: Spectre - I find the subtle humor in Spectre to be better than A View to a Kill here, which is surprisingly light for a Moore adventure.
Cinematography: Spectre - Beautifully framed and sets the mood exceptionally on a visual level. If only the dialogue and character development could match its level of consistency, Spectre probably would have been another instant classic.
Benign Bizarre: A View to a Kill - This was one of the first Bond films I ever saw, so I have to say the action gags with the fire truck and whatnot play up to me more than had I first viewed this film when I was older.
Suspense: Spectre - They both are pretty standard affairs, but I find Spectre to be more intriguing for the first half at least.
Minor Characters: Spectre - This one is close, but Mr. White manages to hold down the fort here for my liking, however short of a sequence he receives.
Glamour: Spectre - A View to a Kill has glamor, especially with the horse racing scenes in the beginning, but it fades into the night. Spectre, while probably not as natural of glamor, doesn't let you forget it to the end.
Bond Performance: Spectre - I'll just leave it as this, Spectre doesn't have to be the end for Craig. A View to a Kill was the end for Roger Moore. I think he played one too many.
Spectre: 14
A View to a Kill: 4
Despite my apparently harsh scoring of A View to a Kill, I have always maintained my joy for it even though I relegate it to my basement in the rankings usually. Realistically speaking, I have it in higher esteem than Moonraker, which I already rated here, but it has a lower score.
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As much as I appreciated the Oberhauser background in SP (the fact that Bond was kinda adopted by him after his parents died) I hated the foster brother "twist". Not necessary - they should've made the connection differently by having Bonds parents and Oberhauser been killed by the roots of the very same organization Bond finds himself fighting against. There you'd have your personal background (I appreciated that in SF) plus suspense and some reasonable connection between Blofeld and Bond. No need he would have done it himself but just the roots of his organization - so Blofeld would have been played by an older actor. Well ... unfortunately nobody came up with that. I still can't believe the third act of SP is the *best idea* they could come up with and gave it a green light. Amazing ...
Title track: AVTAK
Titles: SP
Main villain: AVTAK (Walken was fantastic and had a lot more screen time than Waltz)
Main Bond Girl: SP
Henchman: SP
Plot: SP
Dialogue: TIE
Score: AVTAK
Settings: SP
Action: SP
Humour: SP
Cinematography: SP
Benign Bizarre: SP
Suspense: TIE
Minor Characters: SP
Glamour: SP
Bond performance: TIE (Sir Rog played his last Bond film very seriously IMO)
SP - 11
AVTAK - 4
TIE - 3
Why I didn't expect that big a distance as I like both films....
Re: Bond Performance -- That's exactly why I don't really care for his performance. Playing Bond in his late 50s, he brought little youth and enthusiasm to the character that had become a staple of his. I think he was so much better in Octopussy when looking at what he brought to the role late during his tenure.
Title track: AVTAK
Titles: AVTAK (actually one of my favourites, so 80's)
Main villain: AVTAK
Main Bond Girl: SP
Henchman: AVTAK
Plot: AVTAK
Dialogue: AVTAK
Score: AVTAK
Settings: SP
Action: SP
Humour: AVTAK
Cinematography: SP
Benign Bizarre: AVTAK
Suspense: SP
Minor Characters: AVTAK (I have a soft spot for Pola Ivanova)
Glamour: SP
Bond performance: AVTAK
AVTAK - 12
SP - 6
Well you don't want to go off half-cocked.
Title track: AVTAK
Titles: SP (Great work by Danny vs a slightly meh effort by Binder)
Main villain: AVTAK (Zorin for the win!)
Main Bond Girl: SP
Henchman: SP
Plot: SP
Dialogue: SP
Score: AVTAK (Duh!)
Settings: SP
Action: SP
Humour: SP (Hmm, comedy policeman means this one is won by default by SP)
Cinematography: SP
Benign Bizarre: AVTAK (Glen wasn’t the best at displaying the BB, but still Walken and Jones!)
Suspense: SP (for the Rome meeting and Hinx fight)
Minor Characters: SP
Glamour: SP
Bond performance: SP
AVTAK - 4
SP – 14
Despite my sentimental feelings towards AVTAK, SP won out comfortably. Which I guess makes it 4-5 wins for SP in this game, for me.
I believe SP is in the lead, but we won't know until the game is officially closed.
It will be interesting to see how it does against the later Brosnans. A victory of DAD is all but assured, but TND and TWINE will be fascinating contests.
Title track: AVTAK
Titles: SP
Main villain: AVTAK
Main Bond Girl: SP
Henchman: SP
Plot: AVTAK
Dialogue: AVTAK
Score: AVTAK
Settings: SP
Action: AVTAK
Humour: AVTAK
Cinematography: AVTAK
Benign Bizarre: AVTAK
Suspense: AVTAK
Minor Characters: AVTAK
Glamour: SP
Bond performance: AVTAK
AVTAK - 13
SP – 5