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Nice to see both of you around and that fact that you may stay - or at least be around for a while.
Indeed, the best way to look at all this in my view is, any change you'd like, mention in the feedback thread and in time it'll be implemented. The forum we build from here can hopefully only be better in many ways than what's gone before. And as admins have said, this software is very easy to edit, so list off some improvements and stick with us!
Hoping both you guys stick around for more than a while too. In my humble, personal opinion, you're both great assets around here... :)
With great change, people need some form of continuity and familiarity to cling onto. It feels good having the familiar "faces" around.
It does give me great comfort to see all of you/them on here (no matter if the feeling isn't mutual.) :-D
But, James Page, I'll still visit the MI6-HQ. :D
Wherever you find your feet, or as I say if you wish to return, I wish you all the best, and look forward to seeing you again.
Had to create a new username, my old Seamaster007 one didn't want to seem to work even after I reset the password so I'll just use this one with the underscore I suppose.
I'm sure I'll get used to the new format (even if it seems a lot more like a blog than a forum :/ ), it seems akin to when facebook changes their format and the whole world goes insane for 3 or 4 days before everyone gets used to it, but I mean... I can't believe the old place is totally just deleted. Really wish it could have been archived or something in some way...
Oh well, in 5 years I hadn't even managed 2000 regular posts (though I'm sure it was well above that if the posts in the General sections were included), so I didn't have huge running lists or anything like that I needed to save.
It's new, and will take some getting used to, but the main thing is that we all enjoy ourselves.
After all it is an internet forum
Just discovered I can upload my own avatar, so I happily took the liberty of putting up a pic of my own watch :D These animated smileys dancing around might wear on me after a while though...
PS - I'm assuming all the mods are the same as the old forum? This new fangled hipster blog format is all egalitarian and doesn't display member ranks/ prestigious-ness or anything :P
We could start with say DAF perhaps, and discuss/rate every scene in that film, before moving onto something else.
The internet is written in ink they say. But our forum got lost... We oughtn't care too much about that though. Old discussions are gone, but the James Bond universe wasn't built on them. Rather they were built on the James Bond universe. Hence, they can be re-built.
I joined KTBEU in '05, a few years since its take-off. I've always regretted not being there right from the start! Now I feel I am part of a fresh new start. Call it a reboot if you like. Six years of fun were 'lost' for me too. But do I care? No. I'm thinking of this as many more years of fun to come!
Finally, I'd like to say thank you to Luds for the clarification of things.
Having mods tell us over and over again that it's all ok, we shouldn't be upset and we can all move on like nothing has happened is like telling someone whose photography collection of five years was destroyed in the fire that they can take more photos ... or telling the guy whose thesis was deleted from the computer that he has it all in his head and he can write a new and "even better" one. :-D
Whether it is or not, it feels a bit fake and a bit condescending. This was supposed to be a clear the air thread so let's do that... If we're expected to stop the complaining about the loss (which, for the most part has happened rather quickly), can we also stop the attempts at convincing us that the loss was nothing and truly just move on? I say this with all sincerity and mean no disrespect.
I am still hoping that the powers that be can restore the archive because, for many of us, even those who genuinely love the new format, the archive matters.
Whether this can be done is something I guess we'll have to wait and see.
I can also appreciate the turmoil that these changes have created, and the sense of loss that comes with it.
We all had many posts and threads we'd created that were lost along the way.
Behind the avatars
The appreciation thread
and
The rare and unseen Bond images were just some of the ones that I started, and have lost.
I'm still upset by that, but I can also move on. Which I'm sure we're all trying to do.
What I've found is that those who have left, have done so without trying to give this new forum a chance. There is obviously a safe haven that these members have regrouped at (judging by some of the posts), that not everyone is aware of, or have been asked to join.
An elitist group if you will.
That's fine. I have no desire to join multiple forums, but after so many years can we really ignore all those friendships so easily?
The loss of posts and memories is hard to come to terms with, and like many I to am upset by this, but the rift this has caused and the seeming loss of many longtime friends is harder still.
I really do hope that these issues can be resolved, and that within time these wrongs, right themselves.
I don't think anyone is saying this place is better or going to be better than the old forum.
But what's happened has happened, and as much as we'd like to get the old forum back, it isn't going to happen.
I look forward to hearing from those who have decided to take a leave of absence in the future.
You know where you can find me, if you ever want to talk.
;-)
Lucky they brought along my favourite smiley
I owe it to the friends that took me in here to try and do my part to keep the community going. I think a lot of people here are forgetting that our mods have salvaged what they could when we could have lost (REALLY lost) everything. It is only by their interest in this community that they did not simply say "well piss off, it's just too hard." And trust me, they could have easily done it...I've seen that happen to a forum.
So let's cut this melodramatic speech short and just say...I'm here :D
Of course one could say, would you please shut up and stop asking silly questions. One could say, if your stuff was so precious you should have saved it yourself in the first place. One could say, forget the past and let's build up a new and happy community. But the fact is that we were robbed. So who is the robber? (Oh no, a simple question again.)
Maybe you should ask the right people that one.
I do hope that you'll stay around and post just as you did before. Your contributions, along with everyone else are what make a forum great.
I've seen in the last few days friends leave without so much as a goodbye, or a I'm heading here to check this place out.
People I'd never met, but still call a friend. Someone you see everyday on the forums. Yet, as it is upsetting to see the past lost. It seems it is easy for some to forget a friendship.
I hope it isn't a long term thing.
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Also you may be able to see member rank when selecting a member profile on the left side? Sorry @w7, we attempted to explain this. Basically the administration team from the previous forum is no longer a unit. Most of them formed this new group, however the original registrar who controls the old domains isn't, and well, still controls the old domains. As for why no notice was given, I believe had one been given, the same outcome would have happened, possibly sooner. Keep in mind though that the issue isn't entirely resolved at this point.
You may imagine how I reacted when I was redirected to 'that certain other site'. Words like updating database and hacker went through my mind.
But the good thing is that MI6 Community is back up and running. Although this new style gives me an odd feeling that I have not felt before... while browsing a James Bond , 007 fansite / messageboard.
So when we see on the front page that it is Ursula Andress's birthday, we have a topic to link to and discuss.
Without a brilliant site like MI6 reflecting all aspects of James Bond on the written page, in gaming or throughout the run of films a discussion forum simply can't exist.
We all lost alot of great stuff I know, (although all of my film reviews exist elsewhere) but the mods were caught up in it as well. I think the word 'condescending' has been used which i don't think has ever been intended. At the same time we really don't know what to say to make it easier.
I'm well aware of the fact that most mean well when they utter a sigh of regret at the loss of something we all invested in over the years. However, I've been convinced of the benefits of this new place and although I may have lacked some subtlety, I was merely trying to get everyone else over the pain and feel somewhat positive about things. You see, I think it's a good thing a lot of the old crew has returned, as I deeply respect you all. You know this, Kitty, I'm sure you do. ;-) So I was trying, albeit clumsily perhaps, to get everyone back on track and as enthusiastic as before, so we can start getting together in great discussions again.
I don't think that is awfully nice. Neither is it when the MI6 user account, the main account on this forum, directs a smart ass message to me about the situation. If I had sent one to the MI6 account with a smart ass remark I would have been banned. I never got a real explanation about it.
The lack of respect towards old members who wanted to give the new forum a chance, yet still had some questions is and has been the chief complaint... for me, at least.