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  • Major_BoothroydMajor_Boothroyd Republic of Isthmus
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Natalya is a top five in the series for me. I like the fact that she's pretty simply dressed throughout most of it and it's her plucky personality which elevates her character. Scorupco is darn beautiful too, which doesn't hurt.

    I agree - she's capable, resourceful and determined. She actually does things that other characters can't - like the computer wizardry in the finale outsmarting Boris. She also has the great scene when she hides from Xenia and escapes the exploding base. She's a female lead character they actually thought about when they wrote her. Particularly her influence on the plot and her motivation for being involved in the action.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited January 2018 Posts: 11,189
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Natalya is a top five in the series for me. I like the fact that she's pretty simply dressed throughout most of it and it's her plucky personality which elevates her character. Scorupco is darn beautiful too, which doesn't hurt.

    She looks good, but her acting is cringy.

    The only time it is (a bit) is in the beach scene. Otherwise she's very good. Much better than a lot of other Bond girls (particularly around that time).
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited January 2018 Posts: 11,189
    FoxRox wrote: »
    One of my favorite Q scenes for sure. Loved all his moments with Brosnan.

    I've noticed it more and more in recent years but that scene feels very clunky. I like moments of it (like the phone box) but Brosnan and Desmond seem to be a bit nervous. It doesn't seem to flow naturally like a lot of the best Q scenes. There's a much better dynamic between the two in TND and TWINE.
  • Major_BoothroydMajor_Boothroyd Republic of Isthmus
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    BAIN123 wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    One of my favorite Q scenes for sure. Loved all his moments with Brosnan.

    I've noticed it more and more in recent years but that scene feels very clunky. I like moments of it (like the phone box) but Brosnan and Desmond seem to be a bit nervous. It doesn't seem to flow naturally like a lot of the best Q scenes. There's a much better dynamic between the two in TND and TWINE.

    Perhaps Because Desmond was reading off 'Q' cards?
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Brosnan looks like he's reading something during the MP scene. That one doesn't flow well. "Hope springs eternal".
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
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    I'm toward the end- Bond is captured and taken to Alec. I like Alex's earlier model Omega.
  • Andi1996RueggAndi1996Ruegg Hello. It's me, Evelyn Tremble.
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    I'm really looking forward now to watch GoldenEye.

    1:30:00 into Starship Troopers....
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
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    Just finished GE. been awhile since I watched it ll the way through and it brought me back to the first time I saw it in 1995.
    Good stuff!
  • Major_BoothroydMajor_Boothroyd Republic of Isthmus
    edited January 2018 Posts: 2,722
    Nice work. Glad you enjoyed it @ToTheRight - The rewatchability of GE is highest of all the Brosnan's for me. Might be my first Bond watch of 2018...
  • BAIN123BAIN123
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    GoldenEye is my most watched Bond film of all.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    It is a great one. To this day I have a blast with it whenever I put it on and for some reason it still seems as fresh and dynamic as ever, despite being somewhat dated in places. For me at least, it beautifully straddles the classic era and the modern one.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited January 2018 Posts: 11,189
    I will say though it has dated quite badly in some scenes - particularly in more recent years.

    Alan Cumming's performance is often pretty cringy too.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited January 2018 Posts: 23,883
    BAIN123 wrote: »
    I will say though it has dated quite badly in some scenes.
    Technically yes it has dated, but I'd argue it was actually dated upon release, especially in comparison to contemporary top of the line fare of the time like True Lies. That's part of its charm imho. They had a pretty tight budget and they made the most of it focusing on character. What's most refreshing is that one can tell it's not a P&W script.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
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    It's definitely the bridge film between the old Cubby Broccoli era and the more modern Barbara Broccoli era films. That's its main legacy
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
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    It’s not flawless, but it’s as much as I can hope from from a modern Bond film (CR, SF, and GE being the strongest of the modern era).
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
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    I remember at the time loving it, yet still ranking it towards the middle. I think the pacing is improved in TND.
    One can tell the crew on GE gave their 110% as though if this one was a failure, it could have ended the series.
    GE embraces the series' legacy. Damn, though. If only Barry had scored GE. I wonder what sound he would have given the Pierce era?
  • Andi1996RueggAndi1996Ruegg Hello. It's me, Evelyn Tremble.
    edited January 2018 Posts: 2,005
    GOLDENEYE

    13 minutes into the film....

    WOW...what an experience.

    The gun-barrel is the best I've seen so far. The metallic sound is great and the barrel, it's 3D.

    The jump from the dam (I am biased) is bloody breathtaking. I've been on it several times as it is located not too far from the army base I'm serving.

    This introduction to a new Bond got to be the best after DN.

    Brosnan immediately commands the screen, the dialogue is crisp and witty. Alec is a great 006 and General Ourumov instantly feels like a great villain.

    The plane/jump scene is a hoot but awesome at the same time. The explosion of the base is done beautifully and the titles opening by catching the fire of the explosion is brilliant.

    Kleinman's work on the titles is perfect. A mix of CGI, real models and naked women, guns and fire and very colorful.
    But what really knocks everything out of the park I've seen so far titles wise is the theme song.
    It almost can't get better than this. I say, Tina Turner's GoldenEye plus the visually wonderful titles of Kleinman make the best ever title sequence. It ends with another gun-barrel, ingenious!

    I've seen it before when I saw GoldenEye for the first time in Spring 2017 but seeing this on the big screen is a revelation.

    I got to say the 4K transfer of GoldenEye is out of this world crazy cool. Natural colors but they still pop out, especially the reds.

    Had to pause after the titles, because I can't miss any of the film. This will be a great viewing experience!
  • Andi1996RueggAndi1996Ruegg Hello. It's me, Evelyn Tremble.
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    oh and I got to mention the score!

    Probably the best piece of Bond music I've heard so far after the OHMSS theme, 007 from John Barry (FRWL, TB) and Bond77 from TSWLM.

    It gives the whole pts a special atmosphere.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Agree about the titles and song. They re fabulous.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited January 2018 Posts: 23,883
    Andi1996Ruegg wrote: »
    oh and I got to mention the score!

    Probably the best piece of Bond music I've heard so far after the OHMSS theme, 007 from John Barry (FRWL, TB) and Bond77 from TSWLM.

    It gives the whole pts a special atmosphere.
    Agreed. The Goldeneye Overture is a very special piece of music. I thought Serra's work was just perfect for GE.

    The film has a great mix of realism and camp imho. That's what makes it memorable. There's a bit of Hamilton, Young, Gilbert, Hunt and Glen in it. A true celebration of the best of Bond on film.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
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    Most of Serra's score I think works well within the film. Particularly the action track used in the archive shootout and again at the end on the antenna.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    The archive shootout was scored by John Altman.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
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    Not the bit later on in the shootout. The first part when they escape the cell.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Ah! Yes, that one worked fine too.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    BAIN123 wrote: »
    Not the bit later on in the shootout. The first part when they escape the cell.
    That's the part I actually like. Not a huge fan of the tank score personally although I realize Serra's version may have 'tanked' the film.
  • MooseWithFleasMooseWithFleas Philadelphia
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    I actually really liked the tank score from Serra, though maybe this comment should be reserved for the controversial opinions thread. Altman's version just seemed so generic, though maybe audiences needed a basic Bond theme tune after not having it for 6 years in theaters.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
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    MooseWithFleas wrote: »
    I actually really liked the tank score from Serra, though maybe this comment should be reserved for the controversial opinions thread. Altman's version just seemed so generic, though maybe audiences needed a basic Bond theme tune after not having it for 6 years in theaters.

    it's too video-game-like I think. It would fit perfectly in a multiplayer level for GE N64 but isn't right in a film.
  • Andi1996RueggAndi1996Ruegg Hello. It's me, Evelyn Tremble.
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    To be honest the GE score sounds very refreshing after what was from OP to LTK.
    Nothing against John Barry of course! But Moonraker was his last true masterpiece in my book.

    I feel that like LALD and TSWLM, GE has a very highly memorable and unique score with some highlights that belong to the best score moments in all of Bond.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    Andi1996Ruegg wrote: »
    To be honest the GE score sounds very refreshing after what was from OP to LTK.
    Nothing against John Barry of course! But Moonraker was his last true masterpiece in my book.

    I feel that like LALD and TSWLM, GE has a very highly memorable and unique score with some highlights that belong to the best score moments in all of Bond.

    Dude what are you taaaaaaalking about. Barry’s last scores were epic especially TLD. They were classic bond and highly listenable. This moron named Eric Serra made a stupid score with silly Russian drums that don’t fit Bond at all. It sounds like a cheap 80’s video game. He didn’t even want to have the bond theme during the tank chase he preferred his dumb beats. Goldeneyes only mistake in my opinion is the atrocious score and it’s the reason why it’s an average bond film and not a great one
  • Andi1996RueggAndi1996Ruegg Hello. It's me, Evelyn Tremble.
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    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    Andi1996Ruegg wrote: »
    To be honest the GE score sounds very refreshing after what was from OP to LTK.
    Nothing against John Barry of course! But Moonraker was his last true masterpiece in my book.

    I feel that like LALD and TSWLM, GE has a very highly memorable and unique score with some highlights that belong to the best score moments in all of Bond.

    Dude what are you taaaaaaalking about. Barry’s last scores were epic especially TLD. They were classic bond and highly listenable. This moron named Eric Serra made a stupid score with silly Russian drums that don’t fit Bond at all. It sounds like a cheap 80’s video game. He didn’t even want to have the bond theme during the tank chase he preferred his dumb beats. Goldeneyes only mistake in my opinion is the atrocious score and it’s the reason why it’s an average bond film and not a great one

    Says the one who regards QoS as a masterpiece :P ;)

    Just kidding....tastes differ, and you're a great guy.

    The Living Daylights I have to see a second time before I can ultimately judge for myself over Barry's score. To be perfectly honest, I wasn't aware anymore that TLD is Barry. I thought is was Kamen.
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