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  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    I also hated the publicity stills. So cringy. :))
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    "Where is she?" DC, I love you but this and "You're bluffing" line-- you didn't sell it...

    Fuck

    DC running now, yelling 'MADELIENE"
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    peter wrote: »
    "Where is she?" DC, I love you but this and "You're bluffing" line-- you didn't sell it...

    Fuck

    DC running now, yelling 'MADELIENE"

    Q'S SUPERCOMPUTER is WINNING!!!!!!!
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    M and Denny having a girly spat with a melodramatic fall not seen since 60s horror films
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    bond running
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    scooby gang "hazarding a guess" coz, well,.... uh...
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    bond still running and screaming for maddy, and, in this huge building, where it'd be like finding a needle in a haystack... Bond stops chasing and all seems to be lost... he faces off against his nemesis in the chopper, Maddy nowhere to be found, but...

    ... ugh god, she's behind the door RIGHT BESIDE HIM .................................
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    out of all the places in this building...
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    tears in eyes
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    DRAMATIC MUSIC as he finds her and slices away her bindings... Now... I hate ALL of this... anything and everything in this building is poor-- from acting, direction and storytelling...

    BUT... because I am sentimental at heart.... and, when Bond grabs Maddy and starts jumping through the holes to save both of them-- I like it-- no LOVE-- how cheesy-stupid this is. And wrong. VERY WRONG...
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    "Do I have a choice?" "Not anymore"... telling...
  • peterpeter Toronto
    edited August 2017 Posts: 9,509
    "GB James Bond"... chopper escapes.... and somehow Bond on a boat does as well... Scooby Gang must be so proud...

    I don't mind the soundtrack here...

    ... as Bond attempts the imposib-

    Wait, bad ass, does it! Je takes down the...

    Forget it... dumb and lazy ... nice sound effects though...
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    I was rooting for Blofeld's BF to live... disappointed..
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    confrontation of the brothers B & B... what's going to happ-? oh wait... sledgehammer time... Bond's ready to do his job.... but... doesn't...
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    tosses the Walther into the Thames, and... ... .... snore-fest... he's out of bullets.... DC is my favorite Bond beside Conners, but... he's TERRIBLE in this third act. truly terrible. Stiff. Uncomfortable. Not the man from earlier in the film, nor the confident character from the earlier films. Just terrible. This script took down too many people in this final act!!!

    A crime against humanity....
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Although I hate that the AM DB5 is magically fixed, i DO love these last couple of scenes-- the soundtrack, DC looking suave... taking off with his girl... I do love it...
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    AM, driving gloves, the soundtrack, and a babe to drive away with-- yes, after the humiliating last twenty or so minutes... that is Bond captured in the last ten seconds...

    What I learned from SP-- I don't mind the first two thirds of the film-- has lots to like, and even love, warts and all... but that last act is shit, plain and simple, nothing redeemable until we see the last ten seconds.

    A sad way to end.

    I hope DC is back to rectify this shit. He's a great actor, and, after the gift of his first three films, I would like to see him knock the shit out of the character he re-booted for all of us...
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    This was definitely a film that started quite strongly and got worse and worse as it went on... Had elements of being a classic... died on the branch of scared and lazy execution to wrap the film up in the MI6 building... Sad, what could have been....
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    It's hard to believe. Lazy is the work for that last 46 minutes or so. I'm not too crazy about the rest of the film either, that ending third feels like it was written by a couple of kids making their own Bond film.

    I agree @Birdleson-- a coupla kids kinda making shit up as they go along...
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Murdock wrote: »
    I also hated the publicity stills. So cringy. :))

    Murdock, I'm not joking when I say, why couldn't they hire a guy like you to bring a third act worthy of third actness...???

    The pub stills? Why did they ever think this was a good idea... It started with promise and died on the same olive tree that Judas hung himself on
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited August 2017 Posts: 10,591
    They weren't publicity stills, I believe Vesper's and Silva's were taken straight out of their respective films (quite lazy), whereas White's and M's were separate pictures taken before filming began (Dench may have came in to do her's around the time she filmed her message scene, and notice how White's photo is the same as the one that Moneypenny uses to identify him earlier in the film). It's a fine idea, but the execution could have been miles better.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    peter wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    I also hated the publicity stills. So cringy. :))

    Murdock, I'm not joking when I say, why couldn't they hire a guy like you to bring a third act worthy of third actness...???

    The pub stills? Why did they ever think this was a good idea... It started with promise and died on the same olive tree that Judas hung himself on

    @peter , I'm flattered. Though I'm not really sure what I'd change. I guess I'd have the final act set at the Crater Base. I would probably have C himself show up to reveal his own betrayal, then have him be in charge of the torture scene, that way when Bond throws the watch at him, C would just die there. Blofeld could be there too and get his scar from the blast like in the film but during Bond's escape he and Madeline would get pinned down by Spectre guards then when you think they are goners, an MI6 attack helicopter comes in and saves the day ala Skyfall. Blofeld gets away and sets up for Bond 25.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    What you're saying, @Murdock , at least SHOWS C with Blofeld, instead of being TOLD that C is all part of the plan, but wants "nothing".

    We never see these two together.

    We don't even have a Skype between them!!!

    Film is a show don't tell medium; but SP keeps telling and telling and telling.

    And if C wants "nothing"--

    Where are the stakes in "nothing"? Did Hans Gruber want nothing; did he want to be a "visionary "??? No the guy was a greedy prick and a great conman, and had a full fledged plan with plenty of risks; risks that were worth the award!!!
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    @peter, yes. C and Blofeld should have been seen together. It would have been nice to see "C" try to butter Blofeld up a bit before his death. He may have wanted to be the #2 guy. But at the same time that sounds cliche and bad. Not too sure how to fix in that aspect. I'll have to watch the film again and see what could be fixed.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    C's a little shit and a kiss ass; he should "want" something; buttering up Blofeld would have been a start to giving a character a point to exist!!
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    I would have removed C and the getting rid of the 00 Program nonsense. It doesn't aid the story in any way. It just adds false tension. Spectre suffers from too much telling and not enough showing.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    @Murdock , "that's a bingo!"
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    edited August 2017 Posts: 12,453
    Birdleson wrote: »
    I forget that many, many years before SF Bond feigned homosexuality in MR.

    @Birdleson I don't remember? Elaborate please.

  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    I love Barry's version of the Magnificent Seven theme.
  • Casino007RoyaleCasino007Royale
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    Watching TWINE. Just one comment. Brosnan's glorious tan linen suit. Fantastic.
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